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Old January 16th, 2016, 04:51 PM   #201
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SAN DIEGO l Public Transport

Though what is the probability of a massive LRT expansion?
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Old January 17th, 2016, 02:57 AM   #202
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Though what is the probability of a massive LRT expansion?
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Hard to say. There are no more easy additions as when MTS bought the SD&AE as far as right of way goes unless they can build over the freeway medians. That would cause problems as the construction work would screw up road traffic for quite a while. That means more street running.

Maybe the 125, 94 and 54 corridors may be good places to consider expanding LRT service. For example from downtown SD via the Blue Line
to CA 54 out to and perhaps past Cuyamaca College. The 94 corridor could also be used to the same college and continue north to El Cajon or Bostonia or even Lakeside. Or a new branch could come off of the Green Line at Waring Road and continue to Brunswick Ave, Navajo Road, Fletcher Parkway, Broadway and then up 2nd Street to Winter Garden. The 125 service could start at Carlton Hills and then go to Grossmont College, ride the Green and Orange lines to Lemon Grove and then follow the 125 down to interchanges with the 94 and 54 services and continue south to Otay Mesa Road and run along the border to the new entrance on the US side of the Tijuana airport.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 01:42 AM   #203
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Wow you put thought into that! Thank you very much that was insightful!
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Old January 18th, 2016, 04:10 AM   #204
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I think either the MTS or SANDAG websites have some long range planning maps for LRT service in San Diego. If I remember right, they had LRT lines the length of I-805, spurs from the soon to be constructed Mid Coast line to Pacific Beach and Mira Mesa, and additional (possibly street car) lines on 30th Street, Park Blvd, and the Little Italy area.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 10:26 PM   #205
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I think either the MTS or SANDAG websites have some long range planning maps for LRT service in San Diego. If I remember right, they had LRT lines the length of I-805, spurs from the soon to be constructed Mid Coast line to Pacific Beach and Mira Mesa, and additional (possibly street car) lines on 30th Street, Park Blvd, and the Little Italy area.
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I was looking at that earlier today.

I didn't see anything about a proposed 805 corridor so perhaps the idea has been forgotten.

I think there was something on here some time back about the spurs to Pacific Beach and Mira Mesa. But I didn't see anything more about them on the SDMTS and SANDAG websites.

And the most recent publication on the 30th street line to Balboa Park is from 2012.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 04:39 AM   #206
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Here is the map I was referring to...

https://kpbs.media.clients.ellington...801.1453174632

My mistake re the I-805 line, it was actually a line down I-15 from Tierrasanta to SR-94.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 10:32 AM   #207
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Here is the map I was referring to...

https://kpbs.media.clients.ellington...801.1453174632

My mistake re the I-805 line, it was actually a line down I-15 from Tierrasanta to SR-94.
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Thanks for that.

In three months that plan will be five years old. I wonder if there hasn't been or will be an update at the 5 year point.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 02:56 AM   #208
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Construction will begin this year on a BRT-lite system to link downtown with the international border at Otay Mesa.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...369195711.html

http://www.keepsandiegomoving.com/Ra...oduction.aspx#

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Old February 18th, 2016, 11:52 PM   #209
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Visible work on extension of Blue Line to University City (the so-called "Mid-Coast Trolley" project).



Caption: Crews from Mid-Coast Transit Constructors will be working this month to clear brush in and around the future route of the Mid-Coast Trolley Extension project. They’ll be working near Morena Boulevard, Santa Fe Street, and the Rose Creek Bike Path. For questions about the work, email midcoast@sandag.org.

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Old February 18th, 2016, 11:54 PM   #210
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Thanks for the info!

On one of those links it was mentioned that travel time from Otay Mesa to downtown SD will be 20-25 minutes; On the other, the route was said to be 21 miles long. Makes me wonder if those buses will have Ferrari engines in them to meet that kind of a schedule ;-)
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That must have been a mistake. Maybe what was meant is that it will be 20-25 minutes faster than current travel times.
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From Railway Gazette:

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San Diego MTS approves capital funds
22 Mar 2016



USA: San Diego Metropolitan Transit System approved $108m for its capital improvement programme for the 2017 financial year on March 17.

Among the projects included in the funding is the purchase of eight low-floor light rail vehicles, which has been allocated $31m. Construction of new stop to serve San Diego Central Courthouse, between America Plaza and Civic Center, is to receive $5·7m. MTS is also providing $7·1m for the construction of a transit facility at an as yet undecided location
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OK, I just can't resist.

I love the number 13 so I really can't pass this chance up.

This is post 213 on this thread so here I am to mention it to all and sundry!

OK, a very small SDMTS news item.

SDMTS is finally going back to a one card system for SDM (Senior-Disabled-Medicare) Compass Cards. In the past, SDM cardholders needed both their SDM Compass Card plus an SDMTS-issued photo ID that said they were entitled to the card. The new cards will take the place of the two previous ones as they have a photo plus the SDM designation on them.
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4th Quarter Daily Ridership for San Diego

San Diego / SDMTS LRT - 123,300 (2015) : 1.57%
San Diego / SDMTS Bus - 178,800 (2015)
: -0.23%
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4th Quarter Daily Ridership for San Diego

San Diego / SDMTS LRT - 123,300 (2015) : 1.57%
San Diego / SDMTS Bus - 178,800 (2015)
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OK, with a 1.5% quarterly increase it amounts to a 6% yearly increase if it holds across all the quarters. That's really not bad but it's not all that good. If they can keep it up for the next ten years, it will be a 60% increase but somehow I don't see that happeneng. Then again, when the Blue Line Extension opens it may bring in rather more riders. One shouldn't take the ridership for the first two or even four quarters too seriously as it will include many people just trying the new line out to see if it works for them. IF it does and those people become regulars, that's great.

The tiny decline in bus passengers isn't significant. On the other hand, that 1.5% increase in tram passengers isn't that significant, either.
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OK, with a 1.5% quarterly increase it amounts to a 6% yearly increase if it holds across all the quarters.
No, it would be a 1.5% yearly increase.
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What they are basing the increase on has not been revealed.

Is that increase compared to the previous quarter or is it compared to the same quarter of the previous year?
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What they are basing the increase on has not been revealed.

Is that increase compared to the previous quarter or is it compared to the same quarter of the previous year?
Its the daily ridership for the last quarter of 2015 , October , November , December...
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Its the daily ridership for the last quarter of 2015 , October , November , December...
True enough, but what is it being compared to?

The daily ridership of the previous quarter?

Or the daily ridership of the same quarter in the previous year?

I don't put too much stock into less than yearly comparisons. Even then, I think it's more helpful to look at longer term trends such as five or even ten year periods. Of course that doesn't mean that a transit operator should wait years to start looking for a solution if declining ridership becomes a trend over more than two consecutive years. Reacting to short term stats will drive you crazy, especially when the changes had nothing to do with the operator such as adverse weather or even political events. In San Diego's case, the loss of the Chargers football team could hurt Sunday ridership but that's something SDMTS has no control over.
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