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[frank_hki]

Wouldn't like to sound like a party-pooper, but how long do they really think they can keep on going with tose frigging birds? It's not like it'd ever be some Disney empire. Oh well, not my money, but just wondering... Imho it's pretty tired already.

I'd vote for housing blocks and couple of high-rises instead, too.

[tonttula]

Originally Posted by frank_hki

Wouldn't like to sound like a party-pooper, but how long do they really think they can keep on going with tose frigging birds? It's not like it'd ever be some Disney empire. Oh well, not my money, but just wondering... Imho it's pretty tired already.

I'd vote for housing blocks and couple of high-rises instead, too.

I really wish that kind of attitude would not plague views of our entrepreneurs. Been really happy with Vesterbacka and how active he is in the entrepreneur scene trying to change the Finnish modesty that goes too far at times and the weird attitude some have for individuals that fully commit and go for something crazy in business.
Rovio has already hit the roof with mobile game as back in early 2012 60% of their cash revenue came from licensing and franchising contracts. Making Angry Birds a brand is the only way out and i do applaud them for trying it.


And sorry for the rant.

[frank_hki]

Originally Posted by tonttula

I really wish that kind of attitude would not plague views of our entrepreneurs. Been really happy with Vesterbacka and how active he is in the entrepreneur scene trying to change the Finnish modesty that goes too far at times and the weird attitude some have for individuals that fully commit and go for something crazy in business.
Rovio has already hit the roof with mobile game as back in early 2012 60% of their cash revenue came from licensing and franchising contracts. Making Angry Birds a brand is the only way out and i do applaud them for trying it.


And sorry for the rant.

I get your point and most def I don't wish bad luck to them - I'm just pretty worried about them being so dependent on those birds that are in the end of the day more or less... monotonic. It's a hard competition and you need to either renew your product or come up with others as the time goes by. I'm very happy for them making it this far, but they haven't convinced me that these birds could last. Of course it's not their only thing. Oh well, we'll see, we'll see.

I said I'd sound like a party pooper, didn't I?

[Smedju]

Angry Birds as a game will not carry on imo but those plush toys and candies/sodas etc can continue as "side project" and I believe they make quite a cash with them already. Angry Birds is the most pirated brand in China by the way.

[Smedju]

Helsinki Railway Station stone men (four of them) are gone next monday and back in November. They are getting some cleaning and renovation.


from http://yle.fi/uutiset/rautatieaseman...uksen/6608215#

[propel]

There are so many Helsinki construction projects going on.. Jätkäsaari or Kalasatama dont even have their own thread! (That's 40 000 people in downtown Helsinki), (Oslo has a thread for every single one of Barcode highrise!). Where are all the Finnish people! They cant all be at TaloForum, because the last i checked, it's pretty quiet there also. Is there some other site i'm unaware of?

[Smedju]

Originally Posted by propel

There are so many Helsinki construction projects going on.. Jätkäsaari or Kalasatama dont even have their own thread! (That's 40 000 people in downtown Helsinki), (Oslo has a thread for every single one of Barcode highrise!). Where are all the Finnish people! They cant all be at TaloForum, because the last i checked, it's pretty quiet there also. Is there some other site i'm unaware of?

It would be cool to have more Finns here...maybe they just don't know about this place....or maybe they just don't give a fuck about these things

[Kevlargeist]

We need some edgy jaw-dropping projects that'd garner some real interest. There are only so many times you find some bland basic box architecture interesting... no matter how massive the project itself is. If we compare this current HKI stuff with Oslo's Barcode, for example, it's not hard to understand why the Norwegians are more frequent contributors here.

And then of course there's this huge gap between planning something and starting to do something which we can blame on the bureaucratic nature of this country but that should apply to the other Nordics as well.

[järvellä nukkuva]

It's not that we wouldn't have anything to discuss. As propel said, Helsinki is full of interesting projects. Maybe it's just that Talo feels more like home.

[propel]

Originally Posted by Kevlargeist

We need some edgy jaw-dropping projects that'd garner some real interest.

Jaw-dropping? In Helsinki? Not gonna happen anytime soon
I was thinking along the lines of perhaps there being some odd "fuck you" attitude pervalent in Finland (not you Smedju) towards foreingners, and so this 'showcasing our city to prospective turists' mentality of SCC might feel a bit alien? Then again, e.g. the Estonian threads are mostly estonian language only and so propably serve the same need as Talo does in Finland. I don't know. Would be more fun if more Finns participated.

[Tin_Can]

When comparing to rest of N&B - Finnish forum should have 100+ threads,~20 actively posting users and about 100+ users who comment & share news. Helsinki in itself should have enough projects going on to support it's own sub-section (in style of Stockholm,Oslo,Copenhagen etc)

The big question isn't why the activity is low,the big question is how to boost growth and attract new Finnish forumers. Well,attract those forumers who would actually bother to post here.

[propel]

That's a tall order. I guess they're all cooped up in Talo.
For example, the city of Tampere is in the midst of a high-rise boom and it's tower-hotel thread has been minutely updated in Talo for the past 8 years (100000 visitors). In SCC it was briefly mentioned last september!
Any ideas how to attract new people like järvellä nukkuva to this site instead? Door to door? Fliers? Tv-adds? A jaw-dropping project?

[Joka]

I just dont see the point in discussing every step of the projects. Lets see the plans and lets see how it turns out. Thats enough for me.

[propel]

Gigahertsi, a medium sized shopping mall next to the Herttoniemi metro station. Approved.




source http://www.yit.fi/yit_fi/toimitilat/...0000GOLxpMAHfi

[satama]

Kikokake vei voiton Kalasataman arkkitehtuurikilpailussa
Capellan puistotien kortteleitten arkkitehtuurikutsukilpailu Kalasatamassa on ratkennut. Sen voitti ehdotus nimimerkillä Kikokake. Ehdotuksen tekijäksi paljastui Arkkitehtitoimisto Lahdelma & Mahlamäki Oy.

Kilpailu oli luonteeltaan ideakilpailu, jonka avulla haluttiin löytää toimiva ja toteutuskelpoinen kokonaisratkaisu asemakaavan laatimisen pohjaksi sekä asuinkerrostalojen rakentamiseksi. Kaikki neljä kilpailutyötä olivat huolellisesti laadittuja ja rakentamisen kannalta kehityskelpoisia.

Arviointiryhmä piti Kikokake-ehdotuksen kytkettyihin pistetaloihin perustuvaa rakenteellista kokonaisideaa merkittävänä sisällöllisenä oivalluksena. Ratkaisulla on saavutettu ympäristöönsä hienovireisesti avautuva, mutta kuitenkin samalla selkeästi rajautuva kortteli sekä asuntopohjien kannalta tehokas ja muuntautuva runkoratkaisu.

Kilpailuun oli kutsuttu Arkkitehtitoimisto Lahdelma & Mahlamäki, Arkkitehtuuritoimisto B&M, Arkkitehtitoimisto NRT ja Verstas Arkkitehdit

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[Tin_Can]

Wait,does Gigahertsi only include shopping mall or also those towers?

Originally Posted by satama

Kikokake vei voiton Kalasataman arkkitehtuurikilpailussa

Not a single beacon of hope in the sea of mediocrity.

Vintillä Nykii's facade layout seems to have been better than winning entry,but the building volume itself is totally off.

Btw,stupid question,but how come Finnish architectural competitions attract so low foreign interest? Is it because of strict competition demands or what? Only the largest competitions seem to gather foreign architectural bureaus.
I'm asking as I would so like to see something wild being selected and built in Helsinki instead of those 'safe' designs. And Finnish architects have almost trademarked this 'safe,so nimby's won't hate us'-style.

[propel]

The residential towers are included in the Gigahertsi project. But propably they start with the shopping mall.
Dont know why so little interest in Finnish architectural competitions..Maybe they should let foreingers win once in a while Or raise the money prizes.

[satama]

Originally Posted by Tin_Can

Btw,stupid question,but how come Finnish architectural competitions attract so low foreign interest?

Too complicated for me to explain in English. Kilpailuun osallistuvat firmat oli valittu julkisen kilpailutuksen kautta. Kilpailuun osallistui neljä arkkitehtifirmaa, jotka tekivät halvimman tarjouksen. So yeah, money is an issue.

"Competition in tendering procedures opens up opportunities for contracting authorities to conclude as economically efficient purchases as possible. The principles of equality and non-discrimination require equal treatment of tenderers and awarding the contract based on predescribed criteria.


Public contracts shall be awarded based on either

• the most economically advantageous tender or
• the lowest price

If the contract is awarded on the basis of the most economically advantageous tender, tenders are measured against predescribed criteria. "
source

edit: for all I know, the firms might have made economic losses for designing these and wanted to win purely for the local fame