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Old July 20th, 2016, 08:45 AM   #7521
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Didn't know how to interpret visitors:
A/open to the public
B/events space available for hire
C/open to arts community

Reading into it too much?
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Old July 20th, 2016, 09:00 AM   #7522
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Ah...I assumed 'gallery' + 'visitors' = literal interpretation.
Guess it remains ambiguous.
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Old July 21st, 2016, 01:36 AM   #7523
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next section of bases for area north of lachlan precinct

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Old July 21st, 2016, 03:58 AM   #7524
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Struth! That's Crown Square and Danks Street plus half of Redfern!!!
Your Empire is spreading, Cul.

So, is this going to link up to the CBD model eventually as it is now beyond Green Square (Crescent/Phillip Street)?

And you've got Waterloo Estate to tuck in there as well.

It's going to end up as big as the Shanghai model!
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 06:07 AM   #7525
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Yes, I agree. For residential buildings, FSR limits result in poor outcomes. Presumably the goal for such restrictions Is not only to limit bulk, but also population density, and a better way of doing that would be to place limits on the total number of bedrooms or units allowed for a given site.

Assuming there's space, once the apartment limit is reached then developers would be more likely to experiment with larger apartments, as people would likely pay more for a few extra square metres than it would cost to build.
Agree.

CoS is so obsessed with its unrealistic idea of 'village' and with controlling and restricting (FSR & height especially) that its planners cannot see it is backfiring and instead of FSR resulting in best outcome, it is a core cause of bad outcomes: tiny apartments & ridiculous prices for them, investors rather than owner-occupiers, less open space, poor economic returns for retail, no-one interested in the commercial/office buildings of GS Town Centre, etc.

Its prime motivation to regulate is resulting in bad planning and any good outcomes seem to be in spite of CoS's rigid planning and need to control down to the last millimetre.

Pathway to Hell...is CoS planning dept.
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 06:39 AM   #7526
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the green s quare model will always be adjacent to city model. only room we have, would be good to join up but no room
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Old July 22nd, 2016, 09:35 AM   #7527
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I got to say, don't blame the planners, especially the statutory planners. Its all part of the LEP/DCP that was developed by the Strategic planners, then changed by the councillors.

I know of planners that write great justifications for variances and strong recommendations, all to find a cranky councillor doesn't like it, and it gets refused. The younger generation of planners are great, and have wonderful ideas for the future, but they are pushed back, and crushed by stuffy councillors that often have zero planning knowledge, and just want to look good for their NIMBY residents...

Dont hate on planners, hug the planners; they are on our side!
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Old July 23rd, 2016, 04:28 AM   #7528
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I'm glad to hear the younger generation of planners is more ambitious, and, I hope, more creative and simply waiting in the wings for the Old Guard to drift off toward their greater reward so Real Planning can take place.

You may have noticed that my less than enthusiastic comments re planning are specifically directed at CoS and I cannot, on the evidence, alter my opinion of the CoS planning department's performance. I have been known to offer unkind judgement of councillors with strong opinions and bugger all knowledge interfering with progress, creativity and ambition in planning, BUT, in CoS the planning dept. has been the source of much of the problems associated with FSR & height restrictions, poor economic planning in DCPs and a reluctance to support anything adventurous. It's not all down to nong councillors.

I know CoS has involved well reputed architects/planners but, given their various recommendations over the years, I suspect the shackles are incorporated in the contract devised by in-house planners. Consequently, CoS gets the result it aimed for as the architects/planners know that unless their advice conforms it will be rejected.
Tail wags dog.

On the other hand, CoS planning has done excellent work at community level with parks, tree planting & community facilities. If only they could lift their eyes beyond the local.
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Old July 24th, 2016, 04:13 AM   #7529
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ALEXANDRIA

GEDDES AVENUE CONNECTOR TO BOWDEN STREET

A sensible decision by CoS is the extension west of Geddes Avenue from Botany Road, across O'Riordan Street to Bourke Road where it connects to Bowden Street thence to McEvoy Street & beyond to Ashmore Estate/Erskineville.
It will be primarily for public transport (bus) and local traffic with limitations to curtail using the handy connection as a rat-run.
It makes the very large block bounded by Botany Rd, O'Riordan St and Johnson St more permeable. Again: why wasn't this block included in the Town Centre and given a coherent DCP? The tip at the junction of Bourke, O'Riordan & Botany is part of the Town Centre and contains Transport Place & GS Railway Station.

Anyway...CoS is now investigating how to use residue land it owns on Botany Road after the Geddes Av connector is constructed. Other good work council does is in providing Affordable Housing scattered throughout the council area, with funds provided by developers in lieu of including affordable units in their projects, funds which amount to millions of $ in any sizable project.

THE PLAN

Masterplan Location.

THE PLAN GROUND LEVEL

Basic plan of potential apartment/retail layout, street and access lane.

IMAGES - these are collages or mockups using existing designs for other sites to give some idea of how the projects might look.
These are NOT the final designs.

Aerial perspective.
Note disclaimer comment.


Potential street view along the Geddes Av extension/connector road looking east toward Botany Road and the Town Centre.
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LACHLAN PRECINCT

EMBLEM

O'Dea & Gadigal avenues
Waterloo

CRANE UP!

Pix freshly minted this evening.


View north along Gadigal Avenue, Zetland, with Ruby on the left & 20 Gadigal on the right.


From O'Dea Avenue.
NB JQZ neon logo.

Crane will be constructing this:

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