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Old March 20th, 2009, 09:16 PM   #61
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Funny how projects like this can add to the scenery of an area, while small one off houses can absolutely destroy it.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 01:28 AM   #62
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Motorway bridges, when done tastefully, can be spectacular landmarks. The Boyne Bridge on the M1 certainly lets you know the importance of the river you are crossing. The Blackwater viaduct on the M8 is also quite a feature.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 05:56 PM   #63
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M8 M-F scheme update (most pictures were taken on 21/03/2009; earlier ones have been dated).

Just thought I'd post some pictures of the blinding progress made on this project recently. I estimate the new road will open in mid-May.

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The following progression were all taken from the R665 (i.e. the Clonmel to Mitchelstown road) overbridge just north of Mitchelstown:

22 November 2008
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15 December 2008
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16 January 2009
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31 January 2009
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And 21 March 2009...
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Some more photos of how things currently stand on the northern half of the route:

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At Carrigane (junction 12) you can just see the median approaching the C-M scheme. This should be completely tied in by next Friday:
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A roundabout built as part of the M-F scheme at the R665 overbridge. I add this photo to show that a little bit of landscaping goes a long way. A few bulbs and one tree make a big difference; contrast this with the spartan roundabouts on the C-M scheme overbridges:
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The photo below shows the Fermoy Bypass tie-in as it is today on 21 March. It was taken early this morning, hence the haziness. But a power of work was done here during the past week. It's really starting to take shape now, though it's hard to make out from this picture:
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Finally, it seems that a large amount of the southbound carriageway between exits 14 and 13 has received the final surface. As I pointed out over on infrastructure, almost all the sign poles and crash barriers are up along the entire route.

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 02:28 AM   #64
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Thank you for the picture updates Furet. Looks nearly ready for painting. How is the M7/8 scheme coming along just after Portlaoise? Heard progress was fairly slow on that scheme.


Pic from flickr of the M9 Dublin to Waterford taken the other day


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Old March 22nd, 2009, 06:29 AM   #65
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interesting for me to see ireland expanding a motorway network, having been driven by my parents a few times from dublin to mayo in the 90s across little roads. fond memories of endless scenery. hope the motorways let more people experience this but don't cause too much disturbance.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 04:04 AM   #66
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They are disturbing to an extent on the landscape but they are needed. I like the charms of the old roads but Ireland is a modern country and has to have this infrastructure. Sadly we cannot have both in equal measure.



Another bridge structure on the Waterford Bypass

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Old March 26th, 2009, 06:11 AM   #67
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Second PPP program released

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The M11 to get alot longer. The M20 between Cork and Limerick to be tolled.The New Ross Bypass to be M25.
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The M11 to get alot longer. The M20 between Cork and Limerick to be tolled.The New Ross Bypass to be M25.
Amazing picture above.

New Ross won't be M25, it's N25, it will have at-grade roundabouts on it. This is OK because I don't see traffic levels ever being very high in that area.
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Yes, you are right, my mistake


Furet posted more pics of the M8 on boards

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This section looks really ready to go. Nice pics. What's your take on opening time now Furet?
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Of course a good road network is essential for the wealth of country, and therefore I sure do understand that Ireland invests a lot. However, it can also be a dangerous thing: Switzerland, for instance, was severely damaged due to the highways back in the 60s.

How? Hundreds or even thousands of small remote villages in the Midlands all of a sudden became too well connected and were now only a short car ride away from the next major city. The result was, of course, that the country/city division in the Swiss Midlands along the highways has blurred and much of the land between the major cities is now built over, making the whole country some kind of highly suburbanised 100-mile-city. Mostly, Switzerland looks something like this now:

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RE the M8 between Mitchelstown and Fermoy, I can confirm that practically all of the southbound carriageway (that's 16km) has received its wearing course (or final surface), and is in the process of being lined, signed and studded.

The northbound carriageway is a few weeks behind this. Still some tidying going on there, and no final surfacing has been applied yet. The Fermoy Bypass tie-in is almost complete - I'd say another two weeks should see it sorted.

As for an opening date, I'd say the last week of May, but don't be surprised if it's the first week of June. There's quite a bit of niggly little fixings to do yet.
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Of course a good road network is essential for the wealth of country, and therefore I sure do understand that Ireland invests a lot. However, it can also be a dangerous thing: Switzerland, for instance, was severely damaged due to the highways back in the 60s.

How? Hundreds or even thousands of small remote villages in the Midlands all of a sudden became too well connected and were now only a short car ride away from the next major city. The result was, of course, that the country/city division in the Swiss Midlands along the highways has blurred and much of the land between the major cities is now built over, making the whole country some kind of highly suburbanised 100-mile-city. Mostly, Switzerland looks something like this now:

i think ireland has so much space and so few people that it would take a hundred years to create that sort of sprawl. the irish countryside is very sparsely populated.
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Add to that not only sparsity but how spread out the cities are from each other aswell.
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Of course there is less pressure in Ireland... However, a certain sprawl has become visible over the last 15 years, around Dublin and elsewhere, with formerly small villages and towns "bellying" up - so the tendency is there.
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Your right about Dublin there has been huge sprawl - this kind of makes fixed line rail as a solution a non runner for me. It's too late for that now so ultimately we need good roads around the city. Economically you would get away with the metro, a few LUAS lines and tieing up loose ends in the city centre but realistically it's such a mess in the suburbs that it's roads, roads and more roads. That's not to saying we are not investing huge amounts in rail - we are. Just ten times more in roads.
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I appreciate your concerns suburbansky, but whats the alternative? And you could argue its already happening/happened. Ireland as a whole may be sparsely populated but take the M1 Dublin-Belfast corridor. It must contain about a third to a half the population of the Island already between the urban areas of Dublin, Drogheda, Dundalk, Newry, Lisburn and Belfast
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It's a very important corridor and has Dublin airport tacked to it aswell to put the cherry on the cake but it is still going to be the shortest motorway in the Republic. The Port Tunnel is not part of the M1 - that's the M50. Had it have been part of the M1 I would have said the M1 was the most important road. The M7, M4 and M11 are all equally important for us in Dublin. I would rate the M50 as the most important motorway on the Island in terms of the sheer amount of development and industry along it. Probrably the single most important stretch of road back in Celtic Tiger times. The M1 needs extra capacity to Balbriggan I think. It's a traffic nightmare at rush hour.


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Its shame the sprawl has been allowed to get so big without proper transport considerations. No wonder the M50 is at breaking point and by the time it’s widened another lane will be needed!

I would love to live in Dublin City Centre but living anywhere else in Dublin must be a complete nightmare. Just estate after estate after estate.
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I don't have any alternatives, at least none that could be applied now - you're right, it's too late. It just somehow saddens me if I compare Ireland today and fifteen years back and see the same mistakes Switzerland did simply repeated.
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