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Old February 27th, 2014, 12:07 PM   #41
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At least this line E2 could be extended towards Caballito, to serve more people in city centre.
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Old July 30th, 2014, 01:51 AM   #42
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The old tramway in the Caballito neighborhood:







Taken from this video:


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Old July 30th, 2014, 07:47 PM   #43
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And the views of Buenos Aires from the same tramway (full trip):


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Old March 5th, 2016, 08:40 AM   #44
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Buenos Aires’ tram fate is not so bright nowadays. In one point, it has completely closed the former gigantic 800+ Km. tram network in 1963, but since then very little progress happened. Those old stocks are now partly used by the heritage tram network, opened in 1980. The modern tram ‘Premetro` opened in 1987 as metro line E feeder, but many may not know that there was some plans for more such feeder tram routes with metro line C, D & H. The foolish government ultimately cancelled all tram plans, and replaced by a weak and polluted BRT, even they are now planning to substitute future metro line I with BRT. But we all know that tram is far better than BRT. Tram is cheaper, safer and Eco-friendly. Even another modern tram system ‘Tranvia Del Este’ has now closed, without any extension.
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Old March 6th, 2016, 10:39 PM   #45
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You are right but sadly here the BRT lobby is winning the race...
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Old March 18th, 2016, 06:00 AM   #46
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That is the problem of so called 3rd world, same like my country India
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Old March 18th, 2016, 01:20 PM   #47
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That is the problem of so called 3rd world, same like my country India
Not just 3rd World countries , the US and Canada have a huge problem with anti-rail lobbyists...
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Old March 18th, 2016, 03:49 PM   #48
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European and Far East (except perhaps India) countries are more LRT-friendly, on the other side American countries are car- or BRT-friendly... However, in the US there's again a growing feeling of attraction for LRTs and streetcars despite of the hard anti-rail lobbysm. In Southamerica also there are many cities that started recently the path to build new rail networks but in Argentina the ruling party is taking the opposite direction. Many of us here are afraid of loosing the last chance to have efficient transit systems in our big cities, because of the good general image of the new goverment that induce people to accept this awful transport politic without criticism. There's a lot of mass-media bashing rail transport and supporting the BRT mode too.

That's my opinion, actually I hope I'm wrong and the future of HRT and LRT in Argentina is not so dark as I suppose...
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Reality has shown quickly that my fears weren't unfounded: New national Transport Minister said that he won't support building a Subway network on Argentina's second biggest city, Córdoba. The government instead will fund only a BRT network, so the same will be the case for the rest of the cities. Therefore, we must wait another 4 or 8 years to have what we need since 20 years...
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Reality has shown quickly that my fears weren't unfounded: New national Transport Minister said that he won't support building a Subway network on Argentina's second biggest city, Córdoba. The government instead will fund only a BRT network, so the same will be the case for the rest of the cities. Therefore, we must wait another 4 or 8 years to have what we need since 20 years...

You reap what you sow.
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Puerto Madero tramway to be dismantled

Desmantelarán el tranvía de Puerto Madero
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Old July 26th, 2016, 03:46 PM   #53
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It was a failure from the begining. Who builds a short line that goes nowhere? It was empty at all times of the day. If it would be extended at both ends 'into' the city - then it could be a pretty good line.
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Old July 26th, 2016, 05:03 PM   #54
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Puerto Madero tramway to be dismantled

Desmantelarán el tranvía de Puerto Madero
Inaugurated in 2007.
What a waste..
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Inaugurated in 2007.
What a waste..
It was the result of political opportunism. Not only that, it was basically built in the middle of nowhere in Puerto Madero, went nowhere and the frequencies were a joke.
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Old July 26th, 2016, 11:18 PM   #56
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I still remember these plans:



I think it could have turned out quite nice(at least better than the short initial going to nowhere stretch in Puerto Madero).
I think authorities will regret this decision in twenty years to come.
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Old July 27th, 2016, 12:28 PM   #57
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Desmantelarán el polémico tranvía de Puerto Madero

El gobierno de la Ciudad confirmó la semana pasada que desmantelará el tranvía de Puerto Madero, llamado "Tren del Este". Lo hará para construir el nuevo "Paseo del Bajo", una obra que busca reordenar el tránsito en el Bajo porteño[...]

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Ahora, los coches se reutilizarán para el Premetro, y las vías se levantarán para permitir la construcción del "Paseo del Bajo".

Para los primeros meses de 2019, el sur y el norte del conurbano quedarán conectados mediante el denominado Paseo del Bajo. La obra, que encarará el gobierno porteño, viene a reemplazar el viejo proyecto de la autopista ribereña.

Serán 6,7 kilómetros de una traza que combina un túnel, por donde circularán camiones y ómnibus de larga distancia, y avenidas exclusivas para vehículos particulares.

If I get things straight, they are removing the tramway and instead they will build a tunnel for lorries and intercity coaches and above it, a motorway?
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Old July 29th, 2016, 12:14 AM   #58
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If I get things straight, they are removing the tramway
They are moving the rolling stock to the Premetro

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and above it, a motorway?
No, a regular avenue.
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Old July 29th, 2016, 04:51 AM   #59
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What a pitty.

Are there any plans to build a new one which makes more sence?
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No, a regular avenue.
So they're removing the tramway from Puerto Madero and in its place building a tunnel for intercity coaches and lorries and above it, an avenue.

Eliminate trains and pave the way for vehicles. That transit planning reeks 1940's. Couldn't they have come up with a combined solution instead? Retain the tramway, extend it on both ends and underneath it, a tunnel for vehicles?
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