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Old October 15th, 2017, 02:39 AM   #6661
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Even knowing your story through our friendship, that was a GREAT read!!
I was MUCH more composed today in front of Queen Elizabeth during the Canes heart stopping comeback against GT. Gone was the 10 year old boy inside of me. I behaved much more like a mature 12 year old...!!!!!
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Old October 15th, 2017, 05:31 PM   #6662
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I was MUCH more composed today in front of Queen Elizabeth during the Canes heart stopping comeback against GT. Gone was the 10 year old boy inside of me. I behaved much more like a mature 12 year old...!!!!!
HA!! I can imagine. Was not able to watch any of it, unfortunately, because of commitments but fun stuff for sure! They'll move into the top 10 this week as well.

On the pro side, pretty likely the "other" Atlanta team will even the score today, I guess. Just really hard to imagine the Dolphins keeping up with Atlanta's offense...and the Falcons remain one of the best teams in the game, anyway. This would be a tough one under any circumstances.

But here's hoping and great win by the Canes regardless!!
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Old October 16th, 2017, 02:49 AM   #6663
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20-17 Miami Dolphins!!!
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Old October 20th, 2017, 11:17 PM   #6664
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Headed back down tomorrow for a quick trip and also going to the Dolphins game Sunday with a couple of friends...here's to beating the lousy, stinkin' Jets!!

(and hoping the weather is decent...seeing everything forecast from monsoons to intermittent showers, lol)
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Old October 21st, 2017, 06:41 PM   #6665
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(and hoping the weather is decent...seeing everything forecast from monsoons to intermittent showers, lol)
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Old October 21st, 2017, 07:43 PM   #6666
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Of course I remember all those games, Chuck!

But the best of all has to be the 82 AFC Championship in the rainy and delirious Orange Bowl when A.J. Duhe had three interceptions (including one for a score) and the Dolphins beat them 14-0 to advance to the Super Bowl. Bedlam in there that day.
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Old October 21st, 2017, 10:31 PM   #6667
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Of course I remember all those games, Chuck!

But the best of all has to be the 82 AFC Championship in the rainy and delirious Orange Bowl when A.J. Duhe had three interceptions (including one for a score) and the Dolphins beat them 14-0 to advance to the Super Bowl. Bedlam in there that day.
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Old October 23rd, 2017, 10:53 PM   #6668
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Fins should re-sign David Fales before Thursday night. Hopefully they will.

I'm not sure he has what it takes to be a QB1 someday... but he does seem to play better than many think whenever he's given the chance (pretty damn good for us in preseason... yeah I know it's just preseason but hey).
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Old October 24th, 2017, 06:22 PM   #6669
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They need to draft a QB in the early rounds next draft.
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Old October 25th, 2017, 12:57 AM   #6670
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Fins should re-sign David Fales before Thursday night. Hopefully they will.

I'm not sure he has what it takes to be a QB1 someday... but he does seem to play better than many think whenever he's given the chance (pretty damn good for us in preseason... yeah I know it's just preseason but hey).
And that's just what they did...along with releasing Byron Maxwell (not a shocker). It's possible Cutler may only miss a game or two, regardless, which obviously opens up the possibility of a decision for Gase to make IF Moore performs well. Me? I just want Tannehill back. Moore is a likable guy but I'm not expecting miracles from him and Cutler is just a one-year rental "meh" kind of guy. We need Ryan back.

That said, it needs to be noted that since that 1-4 start last season Adam Gase and the Dolphins have now won 13 of their past 17 games. No, we decidedly are not championship contenders yet--plenty of issues remain and there surely WILl be future bumps in the road---but this is now a team that finds a way to win more often than not and (I think) expects to win every week. All of that speaks to Gase continuing to do a fine job in changing the culture of the franchise.

Anyhow, I had a terrific time at the game Sunday---still a little hoarse from yelling, actually! A couple I know from here in Philly (both Dolphins fans which is how we met in the first place years ago) came down as part of their 30th anniversary. Most of their time was spent up in Cocoa Beach but we went to the game together (their first in Miami) and then yesterday I was able to play "tour guide" for the day and took them around town. Visited the Venetian Pool for a quick look---first time I had been there in a lifetime. Some Cuban food, etc. You know the drill.

My only regret is that I did not talk them out of staying at the "Roadway Inn" by the Cloverleaf on NW 167th St. Good grief, what a disgusting shithole that joint is...replete with genuinely sketchy/shady characters hanging out all over the property. But they had a good time despite that faux pas. Honestly, they should blow that place up!
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Old October 25th, 2017, 02:44 AM   #6671
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They need to draft a QB in the early rounds next draft.
Agreed. I genuinely think Tannehill can and will make a huge leap in productivity next season assuming he and the team get a little more lucky in the injury department...but totally agree it would be wise to invest in a younger guy. They have to start developing someone given that uncertainty, Moore's age, etc. Doesn't have to be a first-rounder but in the first 3 rounds, say, might be the right thing to do.

Or I can just kidnap Carson Wentz and bring him down with me next trip. Not sure that would go over too well with the locals, though...
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Old October 25th, 2017, 02:49 AM   #6672
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They need to draft a QB in the early rounds next draft.
I disagree strongly. The fins need to do what I was saying they should do all along (before/during/after last year draft). They need to get more and better Oline people (mainly guards). The Fins Oline has not been the same since we let Incognito go. Anthony Steen and Jerome Bushrod deserve an A for effort but talent-wise they are in over their heads and try as they might, are just average at best. Also Tunsil is getting better but not as quickly as we all had hoped.

And all that defensive talent we did draft last year? Harris (meh performance-wise so far), McMillan (season ending injury before season even started). It took to the 3rd pick (Tankersley) before we got someone who's turning out to be a good investment right from the get go. That's not to say Harris or Mcmillan won't be someday, but for now that's not working out all that well for us. Meanwhile the defensive guys we ALREADY HAD, turns out they were just fine and are TOTALLY BADASS working together. And oh btw, Cam Wake never got the memo that he's 35 now cause he's playing like he's (an uninjured) 25 still (and might for another few years). Also Suh, who you never hear about is doing a HELL of a lot more than most fans think at making the run hard for other teams.

Our defense was mostly fine it turned out and we kinda wasted some draft picks we maybe shouldn't have. I cant hold that against Gase though because hindsight is always 20/20.


Q: Why was Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliot so good for the Cowboys last year?
A: Oline
Q: Why are Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliot so average for the Cowboys this year?
A: Oline
Q: Why is Carston Wentz so F'ing amazing this year?
A: The number one rated Oline so far this year is protecting him. Wont say the city name but it rhymes with Schmiladelphia Beagles. I mean... did you see the amount of time he had to thrown against the Redskins last night?! He might as well have made himself a sandwich standing back there before throwing on some of those.

Lemme let you in on a secret few football fans know. Olines can make average QB's (like Prescott and Wentz) look amazing. And they can make amazing QB's (like Andrew Luck) look pathetic and floundering.

Bottom line: Trust Tanehill, he's better than you think and while he will never be THE GOAT QB, he doesn't need too. He just needs to be given a chance to be good enough (which a good Oline can do for him). Also Ajayi's ability to run is DIRECTLY related to Oline performance and producing holes. And when Ajayi runs well, its harder for the other team to stop the pass too (cause they have to worry about both threats). So receivers play better.

Really REALLY bottom line: Olines make or break offenses. We need to upgrade ours next year. The rest of the team talent is fine (save one position here or there).
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Old October 25th, 2017, 03:12 AM   #6673
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Oh, absolutely agreed about the importance of having a good OL. You simply cannot run an effective offense without one. And with the possibility (perhaps probability) of Pouncey having enduring hip issues that may well cut short his career, they cannot ignore it at all. I'm sure Gase is WELL aware of all that.

The only mild disagreement I might have with the above is on Wentz. Has nothing to do with me being up here (I'm 100% a Dolphins fan and the Eagles are just another team to me) but I think the kid is genuinely special. He's doing some elite stuff that you don't see that often aside from the great ones and a few of those passes last night (including the last TD) were actually when he was under a heavy rush and about to get pounded. But he still dropped them in there perfectly. That said, you bet he also enjoys very good protection on many plays as well.

But, yeah, 100% on the line. Put a good one in front of Tannehill and he's good enough to win consistently. As I said, while I agree with Marc it would be wise to find a younger guy to start grooming I do NOT think it's a necessity to find that guy right now in the first couple of rounds. Someone to hopefully develop...not necessarily an instant starter since I don't think we need that right now.
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Old October 25th, 2017, 03:39 AM   #6674
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I think Fales might be that guy. Don't know really, I haven't seen enough of him. But keep in mind Brady was a nobody once too. Often times its those nobodies that noone gives a chance that become the next amazing QB.

As for Wentz, I really don't have enough info on him to know how good he is. I will say that Houdini move last night when he was under a pile of bodies and somehow escaped and ran for a first down was totally him and not anyone else. That was nice! But I'm not ready to call him elite or even special yet. Just like I'm slow to call Gase "Shula reincarnated". I'm slow and methodical about football in my old age. Many years of pain, anguish and disappointment has done that to me I guess. But I will say this. If Gase masterminds another playoff run after all we've had to deal with (lack of bye, losing QB1 by preseason, lots of other injuries, brutal schedule), and it looks so far like he will, then I will start changing my tune quickly. And you will then find me being that guy who is the first to defend and remind about all the good he did once he does have an eventual bad season.

But I will also say that the difference between average (or even poor) and elite in the NFL is so much smaller than anyone realizes. its not like college ball, EVERYONE on that team is there because they were good enough to beat out some other guy. So when I call a QB average (and Tanehill still is too I'm afraid), it's not really meant as an insult, just more as statement of fact backed by stats over time. But also... it means not as far behind elite as many think either.
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Old October 25th, 2017, 07:45 PM   #6675
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By the way, going back to last year the Hurricanes are now 11-0 including their bowl game in their last 11 games. Didn't take long after dumping Al Golden for the team to improve and start winning close games. They haven't played anyone of substance yet (FSU is blah) but play VaTech and Notre Dame back to back coming up after awful North Carolina.
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Old October 25th, 2017, 07:59 PM   #6676
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So looking forward to the big games again. It’s been a while since they’ve been in the spotlight. Not sure the times but I hope they’re nationally televised night games.
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Old October 26th, 2017, 12:35 AM   #6677
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One or both could easily wind up in prime-time, I'm sure.

Which would mean I CANNOT watch since I'm always working Saturday nights unless on vacation. Thanks for thinking of me! (I kid, I kid)
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Sadly, most of what I've seen is not Cutlers fault (or Ajayi's). Doesn't matter if you put Moore (or Thill) in there. Brady, Matt Ryan, or Alex Smith couldn't do crap behind a line like that either.
Just quoting myself from earlier this month. Maybe now people will start believing me. It's not entirely the line either, lots of blame to go around this time, but 40 - 0... wow.
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Just quoting myself from earlier this month. Maybe now people will start believing me. It's not entirely the line either, lots of blame to go around this time, but 40 - 0... wow.
EVERYTHING was bad. There might have been a half-dozen positive plays from Miami the entire game...which is atrocious, obviously.

Don't disagree a bit about the OL (I think most long-time fans are fully aware of this rather than it being an obscure facet, actually) but we cannot let Matt Moore off the hook on this one. He was literally pathetic. I don't mean when he was getting slammed in the backfield (that's understandable)...I mean when he had TIME and was just either throwing the ball God knows where or just giving up on plays too quickly or dumping the ball off on plays that had NO chance of converting into first-downs because the Ravens were GIVING him those plays.

I don't hate the guy. Who could? But last night is prime (time) example of why I've never joined other fans in chanting his name and wanting to see him under center. He just isn't very good except in very small spurts. And when he's not in those brief moments of playing at a higher level he is often HORRIBLE...as he was last night. I wish him well in a future coaching career. Has the smarts to do that.

Look, the Dolphins season was largely shot the second Ryan Tannehill went down in camp. They were still a work in progress to begin with, but when that happened it was a bullet. He may not be a future Hall-of-Famer (and isn't) but when he went down last year he was playing damn good and smart football for this team. And he also gave them an athletic edge that has been completely erased from the position without him. If any Dolphins fan cannot recognize how that absence doesn't mean the difference between maybe 5-6 more first downs a game...and the points that result from keeping those drives going...then they need to go back to Football Kindergarten and stop the damn "We Want Moore" chants once and for all.

RYAN TANNEHILL is the guy we need back in there.

And in no way does that discount what you're saying about the OL. Absolutely, positively that needs to be the offseason priority. Dolphins are young, raw, and talented at a lot of defensive positions despite how shitty it looked last night. Not really worried too much there.

Fix guard once and for all. Draft or trade for Pouncey's replacement since he has chronic hip issues and (maybe) you can keep him around as a super-valuable reserve if it can be worked out contractually.

Further down the list, try to grab another starting-caliber OLB because the way Kiko Alonso plays (undersized) he's an injury waiting to happen.

But most of all, get Tannehill back in there. 40-0 says a lot in the here and now. It's meaning after this year without a QUARTERBACK? Nothing at all. OL has to be fixed. QB remains the most important position on the field.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 01:56 AM   #6680
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Heh, it takes a Steelers fan to know more about whats wrong with the Fins than 99% of Miami fans. Lots of good comments too but a long read:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment...right/doyinrs/
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