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View Poll Results: Are These S.E. Cities World Class?
Dallas 16 8.33%
Houston 47 24.48%
Miami 68 35.42%
Atlanta 34 17.71%
Charlotte 7 3.65%
Other 20 10.42%
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Old May 12th, 2010, 06:08 AM   #21
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I was going to mention Washington, DC....the world has an eye on D.C. everybody (world) pays attentions on what is happening in Washington, DC...so yeah...Washington, D.C could easily fit the bill. Other than that...I think NYC, Chicago and perhaps L.A still be the only 3 cities in the USA with that sorta of title for a long time to come.
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even though I love Miami dearly, this is where I live now, still has a long way to go to be called or to be consider a "World Class City" you cannot compare Miami with NYC or Chicago...let along truly world class cities like Paris, London, or Tokyo.
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I would also add the following in Latin America.....
Brazil: Rio de Janeiro & Sao Paulo
Argentina: Buenos Aires
Chile: Santiago
Mexico: Mexico City
Panama: Panama City
These cities may be considered third-world cities...but they do have importance in the region.
But let's stick with what's on the list. MIAMI! MIAMI! MIAMI!

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Old May 12th, 2010, 06:10 AM   #22
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I'm sorry but Canada is pro Toronto? Thats quite laughable since everyone in Canada except Torontonians like to make fun of Toronto. Also the Canadian government doesn't give horse dung about Toronto, it being a liberal/socialist stronghold and all.

The reason Toronto is where it happens to be is because it is the headquarters of big businesses.
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I'm sorry but I see Charlotte along the lines of Oklahoma City, Nashville, Austin and so on. Nothing wrong with any of those cities and not that they aren't important or don't have potential, just far far far from world class.
Charlotte is the smallest of these cities yet it is a global financial hub thanks to the likes of Bank Of America. With a bit of cultural and population backfill, Charlotte will easily stand among the Dallases and Atlantas.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 06:18 AM   #24
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I'm sorry but Canada is pro Toronto? Thats quite laughable since everyone in Canada except Torontonians like to make fun of Toronto. Also the Canadian government doesn't give horse dung about Toronto, it being a liberal/socialist stronghold and all.

The reason Toronto is where it happens to be is because it is the headquarters of big businesses.
Toronto was nothing special before the Quebec separatists made the banking and corporate giants nervous about Montreal and they relocated. Montreal lost 3 decades worth of economic growth and supremacy over that. Before, it was one of the largest, most important cities in the Western Hemisphere.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 06:24 AM   #25
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They've actual done research on this - http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2008t.html

Atlanta is Beta+, the highest ranked of the cities listed in this poll, and ranked among cities like San Fran, Barcelona, and Dubai. So there you go.

Their economy is huge. Coca Cola, CNN, Turner, Home Depot, UPS, and more. Their airport is one of the busiest in the world. They have decent heavy rail. And there seems to be a decent amount of diversity.

Also, you should have made the poll a multiple selection one for the way you phrased the question.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 06:38 AM   #26
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Charlotte is the smallest of these cities yet it is a global financial hub thanks to the likes of Bank Of America. With a bit of cultural and population backfill, Charlotte will easily stand among the Dallases and Atlantas.
It doesn't have the same global effect as any of the other cities mentioned. Sorry, but I don't believe it is as important as it makes itself out to be. Not that it isn't important at all, but it has a much longer way to go before it is world class.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 06:42 AM   #27
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That's a 2008 roster of leading Alpha, Beta and Gamma World Cities....a lot has changed since 2008. I am sorry, I just dont see Atlanta being that important to the world, perhaps important to the region (South) but not the world....and to be compered to San Francisco, Barcelona and Dubai....give me a break! lol.... Atlanta is important to the region if not just to Georgia period...
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That's a 2008 roster of leading Alpha, Beta and Gamma World Cities....a lot has changed since 2008. I am sorry, I just dont see Atlanta being that important to the world, perhaps important to the region (South) but not the world....and to be compered to San Francisco, Barcelona and Dubai....give me a break! lol.... Atlanta is important to the region if not just to Georgia period...
The South is over 100 million people. Its economy is over $5 trillion. It is the size of China's. Atlanta is the economic and transportation hub of the South. Would you also deny the importance of Shanghai? Beijing? Hong Kong?
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2010 World City Survey
In 2010 the London based consultant firm Knight Frank LLP together with the Citibank published a survey about 40 preselected world cities. The Wealth Report 2010, which includes the World City Survey, assesses four parameters — economic activity, political power, knowledge and influence and quality of life. The list aimed to rank the world´s most influential cities.

Rank City Best category
1 New York Economic activity
2 London Economic activity
3 Paris Quality of life
4 Tokyo Economic activity
5 Los Angeles Knowledge and influence
6 Brussels Political power
7 Singapore Economic activity
8 Berlin Quality of life
9 Beijing Political power
10 Toronto Quality of life
11 Chicago Knowledge and influence
12 Washington, D.C. Political power
13 Seoul Economic activity
14 Hong Kong Knowledge and influence
15 Frankfurt Quality of life
16 Sydney Knowledge and influence
17 San Francisco Quality of life
18 Bangkok Political power
19 Shanghai Economic activity
20 Zürich Quality of life
21 Mexico City
22 Moscow
23 Taipei
24 Sao Paolo
25 Istanbul
26 Munich
27 Buenos Aires
28 Cairo
29 Miami
30 Milan
31 Dubai
32 Boston
33 Tel Aviv
34 Kuala Lumpur
35 Bogota
36 New Delhi
37 Rio de Janeiro
38 Jakarta
39 Mumbai
40 Johannesburg


Well of these cities listed for 2010 It appears Miami being 29th is on top of Dallas, Houston, Charlotte & Atlanta.
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Toronto was nothing special before the Quebec separatists made the banking and corporate giants nervous about Montreal and they relocated. Montreal lost 3 decades worth of economic growth and supremacy over that. Before, it was one of the largest, most important cities in the Western Hemisphere.
Exactly, businesses made Toronto what it is instead as someone tried to imply some kind of government handout to the city itself.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 06:59 AM   #31
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"In 2008, the population of the Miami urbanized area had increased to 5,232,342, becoming the fourth-largest urbanized area in the United States, behind New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago.[2]

Miami is a well-known global city due to its importance in finance, commerce, culture, media, fashion, education, film, print media, entertainment, the arts and international trade.[7][8] Known as The Gateway to the Americas, Miami is an international center for entertainment, education, media, music, fashion, film, culture, print media, and the performing arts.[9]

The city is also home to the largest concentration of international banks in the United States[10][11], as well as home to many international company headquarters, and television studios.

The city's Port of Miami is the number one cruise/passenger port in the world in both passenger traffic and number of cruise ships,[12] and is home to many major cruise line headquarters."
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The South is over 100 million people. Its economy is over $5 trillion. It is the size of China's. Atlanta is the economic and transportation hub of the South. Would you also deny the importance of Shanghai? Beijing? Hong Kong?
No...but we are talking "World" Atlanta is not important to the world!!! People in Europe let along Asia dont care what happens in Atlanta. Where did you get those numbers from? 100 million people and it's economy is over $5 trillion? What's your source of information? Still, I just dont see Atlanta being a "World Class City" I just don't....
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I voted other. Paris, TX...the only world-class city in the South.

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I'm sorry but Canada is pro Toronto? Thats quite laughable since everyone in Canada except Torontonians like to make fun of Toronto. Also the Canadian government doesn't give horse dung about Toronto, it being a liberal/socialist stronghold and all.
You're talking about the current conservative government..which has been acting surprisingly conservative for Canada lately.
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No...but we are talking "World" Atlanta is not important to the world!!! People in Europe let along Asia dont care what happens in Atlanta. Where did you get those numbers from? 100 million people and it's economy is over $5 trillion? What's your source of information? Still, I just dont see Atlanta being a "World Class City" I just don't....
The South has over 100 million people. Do the math. That's roughly one third of the US economy, or $5 trillion. I was making a point about the importance of Atlanta, not a call on its "World Class" status, which is far more subjective. It has many world class attributes and amenities and it has an enormous ambition. The metro will likely have 10 million people by 2025. What more does ATL need? A Carnival Cruise ship dock?
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^ Houston has one of those, however..
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lol....no...but let's be realistic here....Atlanta is "not" of importance to the world....like I said before...perhaps to the region, I give you that...but to the world...no way! Atlanta is not viewed as an international city....I have been to Europe and Asia...and trust me,, when people talk about Atlanta they talk about the Olympic Games back in 1996. Atlanta is not out there internationally like perhaps Miami, Florida....and NO...I am not saying that Miami, FL is a "world class city" either, just that is way ahead of Atlanta when it comes to international importance...I am not sure if I am explaining myself correctly here...I just dont see Atlanta there yet...not there internationally to be considred a "world class city"
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So the Olympics don't contribute to being world class?
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So the Olympics don't contribute to being world class?
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By the way Miami was the leading campaign city to bring the World Cup back to the United States. South Africa of course won.
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