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Old January 29th, 2005, 07:04 PM   #61
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Old January 29th, 2005, 07:07 PM   #62
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Your username must be a constant disappointment then
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Old January 29th, 2005, 07:08 PM   #63
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Well, since you're a n00b, you would have known that I have been on the forums for over five years now... and in 1999, I lived in Dallas.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 07:16 PM   #64
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Well, since you're a n00b, you would have known that I have been on the forums for over five years now... and in 1999, I lived in Dallas.
Oh, LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! I've been on the forums here since 1999! I'm so special!!!

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Old January 29th, 2005, 07:27 PM   #65
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Yes I am.

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Old January 29th, 2005, 07:49 PM   #66
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Well, since you're a n00b, you would have known that I have been on the forums for over five years now... and in 1999, I lived in Dallas.
faux-anime-avatar noob PWN3D!!!

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Old January 29th, 2005, 07:51 PM   #67
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^ If you say so

Your obsession with my avatar is quite fascinating
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Old January 29th, 2005, 08:20 PM   #68
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LOL I was just joking about the accent....thanks for the Ohio numbers, "I done seen them before". They are very sad numbers indeed, when Cincinnati dips below 300k I am peacing out, because I cant imagine what it will look like then LOL. I got mugged for 4 dollars the other day with a steak knife HAHAHHAHAH.

On the topic of Alabama, I love Mobile, its so scenic...but I am not a population projection genious and guru like marathon so I cant say whether alot of people will flock there. I do know that their western burbs are expanding alot 'west mobile' but I think that might be a different city.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 08:34 PM   #69
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^ I admit it's just a guess that Mobile may rebound - of course the numbers doesn't indicate that. But I would like to think there are cities that deserve growth & Mobile is one of them.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 08:44 PM   #70
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I think one of the big advantages Mobile has, is that it has a potentially rebounding economy. With the new condo towers that are to bring some retail downtown as well as residents (can potentially spur a boom in condos for DT Mobile, Condos are classically one in the same with waterfront views). There has been alot of talk about malls or bringing more retail downtown for years, but I am sure Baldwin County killed all plans for that, which is probably good as malls do have a short shelf life. Also with the addition of a bold 35 story tower and class A office space, it could make or break Mobile with a new office market. They are also trying to get a peice of the tourism pie, with the cruise ship terminal and all the other malarky they are working on. West Mobile is growing like wildfire like I said with strip malls and little office complexes and giant tracts, I dont know if that is in the same city though. Then of course I think the metro of Mobile will inevitably grow leaps and bounds because of the Baldwin county retail wave and the construction of so many new developments over there. It is definatly a place to watch that could turn the tables with something surprising or fall fast.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 09:23 PM   #71
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On the topic of Alabama, I love Mobile, its so scenic...but I am not a population projection genious and guru like marathon so I cant say whether alot of people will flock there.
I'm not a genius, it's just my job. Many different venues produce population forecasts.

You can probably find a set forecasts to say anything you want. For obvious reasons, local authorities tend to overestimate their projections more than someone in, say, Washington DC; it's a matter of civic pride
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Old January 29th, 2005, 09:49 PM   #72
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I thought this would be an obvious answer, but after reading some of the replies, it does not seem to be that obvious.

Huntsville, Alabama will become the next largest city in Alabama. Montgomery and Mobile's population is stagnant. Huntsville is the only major Alabama city that is significantly growing, Huntsville has a current population of more than 160,000 and is among the fastest growing cities in the US. The Census bureau, due to commuting patterns, made a decision to consolidate Metro Huntsville (360,000 +) with Metro Decatur (115,000 +) in 2003, which created Alabama's second largest metropolitan area @ more than 475,000. At the same time, the Census Bureau took Baldwin County off Mobile's MSA, which decreased Mobile's MSA population to just 400,000.

It's obvious that the Huntsville Metropolitan Area is the emerging business and population center in Alabama. Huntsville is poised for growth having the south's highest percentage of workforce employed in technology, an international airport and quite scenic location. Huntsville, Alabama - the next largest city and metropolitan region - of course!
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Old January 29th, 2005, 09:56 PM   #73
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Huntsville, Alabama - the next largest city and metropolitan region - of course!
Probably, but the former goal is at least a quarter century away, and the latter even longer.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 10:03 PM   #74
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Probably, but the former goal is at least a quarter century away, and the latter even longer.
That's cool. Population is just a number> I like urbane cities and metropolitan regions and that is something that Huntsville will probably never have over Birmingham. (*see next message. It got posted twice*)
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Old January 29th, 2005, 10:04 PM   #75
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Probably, but the former goal is at least a quarter century away, and the latter even longer.
That's cool. Population is just a number> I like urbane cities and metropolitan regions and that is something that Huntsville will probably never have over Birmingham. Huntsville - Decatur will develop like Raleigh Durham - a small CBD linked by massive suburban strip development.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 10:45 PM   #76
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I didnt know Baldwin county got taken off the MSA of Mobile, nor do I understand why that would happen as the eastern shore is where alot of people that work in mobile, live and as it grows the people of mobile will more than likely cross the bay to shop and work...the two really are one in the same, no doubt if it was indeed taken off that it will be put back on.
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Old January 29th, 2005, 11:46 PM   #77
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I didnt know Baldwin county got taken off the MSA of Mobile, nor do I understand why that would happen as the eastern shore is where alot of people that work in mobile, live and as it grows the people of mobile will more than likely cross the bay to shop and work...the two really are one in the same, no doubt if it was indeed taken off that it will be put back on.
Perhaps. Vulcan's comment begs for further elaboration.

With the 2000 census, the Census bureau created a new type of area called a Micropolitan area. It's like a Metropolitan area but smaller. Like Metro areas, they follow county borders (except in New England). Baldwin County was severed from Mobile's Metropolitan area to become the Daphne-Fairhope Micropolitan area.

Tables of the new structure of US Metros and "Micros" can be found here

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Old January 30th, 2005, 02:27 AM   #78
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^ Baldwin County should likely rejoin Mobile again - there are enough people commuting into Mobile to warrent that +15%.

Huntsville - Decatur is moving into that direction towards the future. Still odd how Huntsville hasn't had a remarkable population gain though, but Baldwin County has & there are few other cities, except southwest to compete with annexations. Huntsville likely has the brightest future in the short term at least.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 06:13 AM   #79
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Old January 30th, 2005, 11:48 PM   #80
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Next large Alabama city? Well, with the way that Americans move around nowadays, it would have to have a rather mobile population.
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