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Old July 5th, 2008, 12:50 PM   #1
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BBC East Midlands: The Cinderella Region

Doesn't it feel like that sometimes? I mean. We have no substantial production facilities (and, no a handful of news studios in Nottingham does not count), and I can't name a single programme produced by BBC:EM that's been broadcast nationally in the past five years. All despite having a collective population larger than Wales (home of Doctor Who and Torchwood amongst others).
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Old July 6th, 2008, 12:45 AM   #2
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I am inclined to agree Mark76, though it goes beyond television in my opinion - our railways are crap, our cities are boring and I think we can do alot better generally.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 09:02 PM   #3
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... and then Northampton, despite sitting in the East Midlands, gets lumped in with an entirely separate television region! BBC East basically seems to be everything that's left over once the rest of the country has been chopped up into bits - not sure what the link between me in Northampton and someone over in Suffolk is, but hey.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 10:21 PM   #4
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Just be glad you dont live in Lincolnshire. Where my dad lived was traditionaly Anglia with Central as the ITV station i parts to the west. Then when the TV mast near him was sold to Yorkshire TV they covered the region, I can tell you no-one I know felt hearing almost blacket coverage of news about Leeds and sometimes York was of any interest to them. We even had to put up with lots of crap Yorkshire based regional variation TV. I remember one time where it was European Cup on 3 i most of the country but an interview with Richard Whitely on Yorks! Not sure if BBC has followed the same regional changes but i would think so.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 01:22 AM   #5
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The East Midlands has always been an unfashionable region, but maybe thats why I like it.

People get all teary eyed and nostalgic over places like Liverpool and Newcastle, etc. To me they are just towns that are inhabited with people that are obsessed with their identities and making sure everyone knows where they are from.

We are different in that respect. More unassuming, less obvious.

However, we could show a little more solidarity sometimes.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 05:52 PM   #6
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well said Patrick_G ... !!! totally agree with you there
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 09:46 PM   #7
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I like Nottingham and Leicester. Both good sizes, not too big, not too small.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 12:22 PM   #8
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I guess you guys have seen the Birmingham thread, if you feel the same way that the BBC now seem to ignore other areas do you think a petition to Government would make any difference, after all we pay for the company by licence and taxes through Gov.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 01:04 PM   #9
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Maybe we could petition our MPs. If we can get enough of them to raise the issue someone at the beeb would have to take notice.

I haven't actually looked at the Birmingham thread, but I'm guessing some people are expressing the same sentiments (though, isn't Doctors made by BBC Birmingham? That's one more than we have ).
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Maybe we could petition our MPs. If we can get enough of them to raise the issue someone at the beeb would have to take notice.

I haven't actually looked at the Birmingham thread, but I'm guessing some people are expressing the same sentiments (though, isn't Doctors made by BBC Birmingham? That's one more than we have ).
Doctors is on in the middle of the day so hardly anybody will watch it, compared with prime time! I also expect that, while it may be made in Birmingham, it could as easily be anywhere in the UK for all of the 'local feature' that there is in the programme.

I think that petitioning our MPs to raise the issue on our behalf would probably be more effective than a Government petition.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 11:10 PM   #11
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I suppose we could say Robin Hood; as it's set in Nottingham. But it's a fake Nottingham filmed in Hungary (although it is incredibly lifelike ).

But contemporary dramas and comedies set in our region? Not so much.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 01:32 AM   #12
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I think that petitioning our MPs to raise the issue on our behalf would probably be more effective than a Government petition.
maybe a standard letter of complaint that we could all work on and copy and paste, then print off and sign then send to local MP could be worth a squirt. ?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #13
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Where's Keith Vaz when you need him??
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Old November 24th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #14
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Could you imagine an East Midlands soap?

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ust be glad you dont live in Lincolnshire. Where my dad lived was traditionaly Anglia with Central as the ITV station i parts to the west. Then when the TV mast near him was sold to Yorkshire TV they covered the region, I can tell you no-one I know felt hearing almost blacket coverage of news about Leeds and sometimes York was of any interest to them. We even had to put up with lots of crap Yorkshire based regional variation TV. I remember one time where it was European Cup on 3 i most of the country but an interview with Richard Whitely on Yorks! Not sure if BBC has followed the same regional changes but i would think so.
yes, its just absurd really. its the same for everything really, and the worse thing is this region is a net contributor in terms of revenue for the government. lincolnshire actually has the worst taxation to spending ratio in the entire country, some 50% less than scotland in terms of govt spending per person.
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Old November 25th, 2008, 12:06 AM   #16
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Strange Thoughts would be a good name for a East Midlands Soap.

I was thinking how great it'd be if the next Grand Theft Auto game was set in the East Midlands? Start on Durbey Island, go to Laysesta and finish in Knottingum?

To be honest i'm not too fussed about a lack of East Midlands programming, but I wouldn't mind some decent programming to make me desire a television in the first place.

I'd rather pay £140 a year for high speed railway through Derby, a shopping centre not called Westfield, a Derby tram system and tall buildings
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well rockstar have a studio in lincoln
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Old November 25th, 2008, 11:28 AM   #18
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Didn't everything turn out good for Cinderella in the end?
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Old November 28th, 2008, 12:55 PM   #19
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As a 'soapy drama' does Stephanie Beacham's appearance in the starring role of the 1985, Nottingham-set (I don't know if was actually SHOT in the city, though) series, 'Connie' count? I seem to recall that there were vague 'threats' to turn it into a fully-blown, regular soap, but it somehow never quite came to fruition. I never actually WATCHED it but I did think it was kind of neat (sorry for sounding terribly 'Mid-Atlantic' there!) to have a prime-time drama series set in the East Midlands - even if it was Nottingham!

http://www.britmovie.co.uk/forums/lo...e-beacham.html
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Old November 28th, 2008, 01:24 PM   #20
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People get all teary eyed and nostalgic over places like Liverpool and Newcastle, etc. To me they are just towns that are inhabited with people that are obsessed with their identities and making sure everyone knows where they are from.
Yet it doesn't stop us being lumped into a Greater Greater Manchester region, for more things than just television.

Most of the BBC's 'regions' are merely regional news outposts. Only Manchester, Birmingham & Bristol were ever really charged with making anything important outside of London. When was the last time you heard of anything significant coming out of Plymouth-based BBC South West, for example?

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