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Old November 12th, 2017, 12:33 PM   #8561
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Emerites cabins still with a dated biege theme.....very disapointing compared to singapour airlines new interiors....also buisness class looks less roomy!
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Old November 12th, 2017, 06:51 PM   #8562
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What's interesting is the delivery of these 787-10s will be for 2022 which a good indicator DWC expansion, EKs switch could be complete by then.

I'm sure EK could have gotten early delivery slots, but the delayed the delivery until the space/infrastructure was ready at DWC.
DWC ready in 5 years? An airport that huge needs much more time than that.

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There could also be an EK 787-9 add on order.
I read earlier reports of 60 options for the B787 order but I haven't seen anything reported for it.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 06:54 PM   #8563
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The new F product looks stunning. And with QR and TK not bothering to compete for F passengers, and EY a bit small to be too big of a competitor for EK, this F class market should remain with EK.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 06:58 PM   #8564
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It was obvious they would go for the B787, but only 40? That is considered small by EK's standards.

The A380 order never came through. There's still a possibility of it happening in the new few days though.

And the final question: where is there room for all these aircraft at DXB? During EK's arriv/dep banks, the airport is already at max capacity with no more runway slots. Where are they magically going to find space for all these new aircraft?
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Old November 12th, 2017, 07:42 PM   #8565
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FZ also refreshed their cabin (with fully flat beds in J!) making the product more similar across EK and FZ's fleets:





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Old November 13th, 2017, 05:14 PM   #8566
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What are those 5 dots for? Strange design.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 08:19 PM   #8567
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What are those 5 dots for? Strange design.
I guess from the designer world. Designers tend to put the colors used for their work, hence reflecting the 5 colors used for the design of the seat ?
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Old November 15th, 2017, 11:51 AM   #8568
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Boeing and flydubai sign historic deal for 225 737 MAX Airplanes!






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Old November 16th, 2017, 06:20 AM   #8569
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I still don't understand FZ's order...nearly 300 aircraft on order. Unbelievable.
Where do they expect to fly all these? Are the banking on the India bilateral changing and a boom in Africa/Iran/Iraq/Pakistan? Because that's the only way I see there being a need for that many aircraft.

Tim Clark said he expects the partnership between EK and FZ to generate up to 10 million extra passengers for EK, so that may be something FZ is banking on.


And I'm guessing after this years airshow, we should expect construction of DWC's mega terminals to being imminently?
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Old November 16th, 2017, 12:13 PM   #8570
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There are rumours floating around that FZ could launch bases in other cities. I can't see how they can expand in India, and China when the bilaterals are maxed out, unless they setup FlyDubai India.
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Old November 16th, 2017, 05:55 PM   #8571
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You mean they are going to copy Air Arabia!!
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Old November 16th, 2017, 07:29 PM   #8572
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LCC's have been doing that for the longest time. Southwest, Ryanair, Easyjet, Air Asia, etc, etc all have multiple bases, it's not as if Air Arabia has invented the wheel.
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Old November 16th, 2017, 09:34 PM   #8573
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LCC's have been doing that for the longest time. Southwest, Ryanair, Easyjet, Air Asia, etc, etc all have multiple bases, it's not as if Air Arabia has invented the wheel.
They did for the Arab world....However with the name FlyDUBAI that will be hard.... should have gone with a more common name... the name Norwegian air keeps confusing people with the airline's multiple bases!!
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Old November 17th, 2017, 06:48 AM   #8574
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Opening up new bases is a great idea. All the largest LCC's have many hubs.

I'm sure FZ will come up with a new name for a subsidiary based somewhere else. The question is, what airport in the region will allow them to set up shop? KSA is heavily protective (although slowly improving), just look at QR's Al Maha...
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Old November 17th, 2017, 09:02 AM   #8575
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FlyDubai could have at least ten basis in India, and Pakistan alone if they register there. Even though there is stiff competition in India they would have the upper hand code sharing directly with EK, and FZ adding many more needed seats.

China, and the EU could be tougher to expand.

They could also add a few target cities in the MENA region, and also open up Africa to compete with TK.

On a more ironic note just days after being loyal to Boeing with significant air frame orders at the DAS the States are working on yet another way to stiff the ME3 airlines with additional taxes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...KBN1DH04H?il=0
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Old November 18th, 2017, 02:20 AM   #8576
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EY cargo has dropped or suspended a number of freighter only markets, some could resume in summer, places are Tbilisi, Sharjah. Eldoret, Djibouti, Stansted, East Midlands, Hahn, Columbus.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 02:54 AM   #8577
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FlyDubai could have at least ten basis in India, and Pakistan alone if they register there. Even though there is stiff competition in India they would have the upper hand code sharing directly with EK, and FZ adding many more needed seats.

China, and the EU could be tougher to expand.

They could also add a few target cities in the MENA region, and also open up Africa to compete with TK.

On a more ironic note just days after being loyal to Boeing with significant air frame orders at the DAS the States are working on yet another way to stiff the ME3 airlines with additional taxes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...KBN1DH04H?il=0
I could see a hub in India. Competition is tough but the market is huge and growing very fast.
Pakistan and Bangladesh still haven't developed their aviation markets to the same extent as India, but I'm sure it will happen in the next 5-10 years.

That tax exemption will never happen. EK will threaten, Boeing will complain, and whatever Boeing wants, Boeing gets... The US government is very protective of Boeing...
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EY cargo has dropped or suspended a number of freighter only markets, some could resume in summer, places are Tbilisi, Sharjah. Eldoret, Djibouti, Stansted, East Midlands, Hahn, Columbus.
And they are also retiring all their B77L's after just being in service with them for less than 4 years. The downsizing is not over yet.
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They are ending flights to Jaipur in India in March 2018.
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I could see a hub in India. Competition is tough but the market is huge and growing very fast.
Pakistan and Bangladesh still haven't developed their aviation markets to the same extent as India, but I'm sure it will happen in the next 5-10 years.

That tax exemption will never happen. EK will threaten, Boeing will complain, and whatever Boeing wants, Boeing gets... The US government is very protective of Boeing...
Their best bet is Pakistan, Bangladesh and then few of the north African arab countries....decent point to point markets that could use a very competitive low cost airline...
In India it is just going to be cut throat competition!! Besides the airlines in India are ultra-powerful from a lobbying standpoint, that will go against any airline with foreign ties there!!
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