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Old June 25th, 2017, 12:18 PM   #1821
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Likely? Nothing in that article makes me think that an expansion of Whole Foods to Australia is at all likely. The way I read it is that it is simply one of a number of very flaky, speculative options open to Amazon at some point down the track.

Amazon is yet to even complete the Whole Foods acquisition (due to close by year's end) let alone integrate the division into their business. It is also only just putting together its local arm now, meaning there is a long way to go before Amazon becomes a major force in retail locally. On top of that, Amazon bosses have publicly stated that they have no immediate intention to introduce bricks and mortar stores locally in the near term. Put all this together, and I rate our chances of seeing Whole Foods introduced in the next 5 years as practically nill.
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Old June 25th, 2017, 12:20 PM   #1822
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There are the patents mentioned in the article
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Old June 25th, 2017, 12:28 PM   #1823
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Trademarks registered by Whole Foods 31 years ago are hardly conclusive evidence.

I'm sure there would be many major overseas retailers who have registered their brands here just as a preventative measure, so that they don't have the same issue Burger King encountered, if they do ever choose to expand here.
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Old June 25th, 2017, 02:00 PM   #1824
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Whole Foods is great, I've shopped there many time while in the US but we need to remember the Australian food scene is actually pretty sophisticated compared to North America. All the capital cities here have high quality delis and grocers, just look at Standard Market for example so I think if Wholefoods set up here they would have much steeper competition than they do in the US. Starbucks set up here thinking they would conquer the Australian coffee market as they have done in North America and Europe but they got absolutely whipped here. It's a poignant example.
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Old June 25th, 2017, 03:51 PM   #1825
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I'm not convinced that Amazon have plans for bricks and mortar stores in Australia in the foreseeable future. To me you need to have a good idea of what their strategy or potential point of difference in the market is likely to be first. It seems somewhat contradictory for an online specialist to see value in opening bricks and mortar stores - especially when you have such entrenched competition in the market already.

It has taken Aldi, for example, 15 years and huge dollar investment to build up its 13% share of the grocery market. They had to wait for suitable sites in shopping centre redevelopments or build their own stand alone stores in potentially less than ideal locations. I'm not sure Amazon is prepared to make that sort of commitment just yet.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 05:38 AM   #1826
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This is more promising:
http://www.theage.com.au/business/re...23-gwxeyb.html

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Michael Bate, head of retail at Colliers, said Schwarz Group is "amassing lots of freehold sites in Melbourne, Adelaide and Brisbane at present and looking to own and build their own distribution centres".
This quote perhaps illustrates what Amazon might be up against if they wanted to open bricks and mortar stores in Australia.
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Sydney is out of the mix because its land for retail has largely been stitched up by the big supermarkets Woolworths and Coles, and property trusts, and Kaufland does not want to rent.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 05:45 AM   #1827
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Inside information was speakimg to a personal driver who drives VIPs. He drove an Amazon executive the other week around SEQ looking and investigating potential sites.

Therefore the conversation does tie into articles above so something must be occurring being distribution centres or retails outlets?
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Old June 26th, 2017, 07:04 AM   #1828
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Distribution centres, as it's already public knowledge that Amazon is opening locally and needs DCs to make that work.

As I've said previously, Amazon execs are on the record saying that they are starting with their traditional online-only model first, with no brick and mortar retail locations planned for the foreseeable future.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 08:06 AM   #1829
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Distribution centres, as it's already public knowledge that Amazon is opening locally and needs DCs to make that work.

As I've said previously, Amazon execs are on the record saying that they are starting with their traditional online-only model first, with no brick and mortar retail locations planned for the foreseeable future.
How do you know that Amazon is not reserving potential retail outlets for the future? Just from BT and News Ltd articles?

I was just adding what was told to me without asking from the chauffeur that drives VIPs.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #1830
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Because the very execs you are talking about said that they weren't planning any. Your driver would have taken them to potential distribution centre sites as that is what they are currently focused on.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 10:16 AM   #1831
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Interesting Verbatim.

Goes to show what goes on behind the scenes when one thinks nothing is going on.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 11:26 AM   #1832
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On another note, if we get AmazonFresh home delivery, as it seems we will given all the job ads still appearing in Brisbane, we will join what is still quite a select list of cities.

Latest jobs: https://au.indeed.com/jobs?q=AmazonFresh&l=Brisbane+QLD
Cities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmazonFresh

Wiki also says that AmazonFresh will introduce a new pickup initiative...no doubt in the bigger markets for now:

"In March 2017, Amazon announced AmazonFresh Pickup, a drive-in-type grocery store for Amazon Prime subscribers, launching in beta on March 29.[16] It's a delivery service that lets users shop online, reserve a time to pick up the groceries and have them loaded into their car at the store"
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Old June 26th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #1833
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Kaufland confirmed coming to Se Qld "9news Qld Reports"
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Old June 26th, 2017, 11:57 PM   #1834
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If it keeps up the price pressure on Coles and Woolies, it can only be a good thing IMO.
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Old July 5th, 2017, 08:25 AM   #1835
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No general retail thread for Toowoomba so will let people know via the Brisbane thread as it's mostly a general discussion on Retail in SE Qld.

Toowoomba Residents can now shop online @ IKEA

http://www.rightrelevance.com/search...nt=toowoombarr
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Old July 6th, 2017, 04:49 PM   #1836
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Burpengary Plaza now open for business

https://twitter.com/7NewsQueensland/...82991252324352
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Old July 16th, 2017, 03:04 PM   #1837
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A DA (A004696560) went up last week for the new, massive Mecca Maxima for the Wintergarden. I was going to upload a couple of the renders myself, but imgur is down at the moment.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 01:22 AM   #1838
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That is a massive store. Hopefully it helps the centre a little.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 05:59 AM   #1839
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I think it's what the Wintergarden needs to do, introduce large stores that have a Queen (or Edward) Street frontage. At the same time though, it's not something they can do with the stores down the back.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 02:13 PM   #1840
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A Development Application going in for Costco @ Bundamba; Via Ipswich City Council and an expected opening date mid 2018.

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/st...741864960?s=09

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