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Old October 5th, 2007, 01:16 AM   #1
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MECCA |U/C| Holy Mosque Fourth Expansion

Well there are a lot of threads out there that are discussing the various projects underconstruction in Makkah, but i haven't seen a thread discussing the expansion of the Grand Mosque itself? So lets dedicate this thread in discussing the expansion of the Holy Mosque, Plans under way or what you think the future of the Grand Mosque should look like?

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what? I didn't know that it's being expanded!
When did they start?
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Old October 6th, 2007, 03:01 AM   #4
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Old October 6th, 2007, 03:21 AM   #5
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Saudi guy can you please put up that picture that shows the Bird eye view of the Expansion infront of Shamiyah? That picture would be very useful thanks.
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I wonder after all the projects have been completed surrounding the Haram if they will have enough room to expand the capacity by two folds?, Does anyone have any stats as to how many pilgrims would need to be fit in the Grand mosque in the near future?
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Saudi guy can you please put up that picture that shows the Bird eye view of the Expansion infront of Shamiyah? That picture would be very useful thanks.
sorry i don't get what you mean? btw Expansion in north side (front shamiyah) not stated yet maybe next year.

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I wonder after all the projects have been completed surrounding the Haram if they will have enough room to expand the capacity by two folds?, Does anyone have any stats as to how many pilgrims would need to be fit in the Grand mosque in the near future?
i heard it seems like 7 million!
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As I mentioned before in supertall forum, This is an expansion of the mas'a (Safa and Marwa) only and it is already U/C and work started almost 6 months ago and going to be completed next year inshallah (God willing).
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sorry i don't get what you mean? btw Expansion in north side (front shamiyah) not stated yet maybe next year.



i heard it seems like 7 million!

Remember that picture, of highlighted areas such as Shamiyah, Jabal Omar, that were in different colours and right infront of Shamiyah we had the Grand mosque expansion, that picture would be very useful. You had that picture in the Abraj Al Bait thread, i tried putting it up here but the link wasn't working.


7million Mashallah is very impressive!, what's the current capacity? 1.5million?
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What's the Plan for the open marble area outside? What are the plans for the Grand mosque right infront of Shamiyah?
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aha ok iam now in my work if i go home i will creat new one for each thread inshallah

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7million Mashallah is very impressive!, what's the current capacity? 1.5million?
current capacity maximam 3 million.

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What's the Plan for the open marble area outside? What are the plans for the Grand mosque right infront of Shamiyah?
in fact goverment set plan for each project north yard epansion for shamiyah,southwest yard expansion for jabal omar and maybe next for jabal al kaba & jabal khandama!!!!and as i notes there lots of projects we don't know about it yet!!!!man they know what should to do
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Old October 9th, 2007, 06:09 AM   #12
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Massive expansion work begins at Haram Mosque

02/19/07 14:15

Makkah (ANTARA News) - Massive expansion and renovation work began at the Haram Mosque in Makkah last week. The expansion work is the largest in the last two decades.

Widening the Al-Mas'a area is thought to be the most impressive job under construction. Over the years, this area has witnessed heavy congestion during the holy month of Ramadan and Haj, when thousands of Muslims perform Sa'i between Mount Safa and Mount Marwa as part of the Umrah and Haj rituals.

During the holy month of Ramadan and Haj, about three million Muslims from all over the world throng the Grand Mosque to pray and perform Umrah. Their number is increasing yearly, making the expansion of the Al-Mas'a area a necessity, IINA reported citing the Saudi Gazette.

An engineer working at the site said the structure under construction will be 20 meters wide toward the eastern side of the present Al-Mas'a area.

After work at the Al-Mas'a area is completed, the new path will be used by pilgrims to walk from Mount Safa, where pilgrims begin their Sa'i, to Mount Marwa. The present path shall be used by pilgrims to walk the opposite direction. "The project will be completed before the Holy Month of Ramadan," the engineer said.

Saudi Binladin Group has signed a contract for the maintenance and expansion work at the Grand Mosque. Three bulldozers were seen dismantling the old wall and digging the ground for the foundation work at the construction site.

Passage from the eastern gates Al-Salama, Al-Nabi, Al-Abbas and Bani Hashim, as well as other gates has been closed for construction. The Marwa gate, at the end of the Al-Mas'a Area, is the only one left open for pilgrims' entry and exit. The police office dealing with lost and found material, located outside the other end of the Al-Mas'a area, is also closed while the work is under progress.

Once the expansion of the Al-Mas'a area is completed, the zone's capacity to accommodate pilgrims will be increased by about 200 percent. Last year, the expansion of the Mataf (circumambulation) area increased its capacity by more than 100 percent.

The renovation and expansion work will also include the construction of 14-meter wide stairs between Al-Mas'a and the Al-Qararah escalators to make pilgrims' movement easier.

Many pathways in the northern courtyard of the Grand Mosque to be used by people with special needs, the elderly and sick, are being renovated.

More than 113 brass shelves for keeping the Holy Qur'an are being installed on the columns of the ground and first floors. Additionally, the Grand Mosques' eight minarets are being renovated and will be illuminated with electric bulbs.

Under the present renovation projects, the entrance to the escalators leading to the bus parking area in the western courtyard, is also being extended. As announced earlier by the General Presidency for the Affairs of the Two Holy Mosques, other futuristic projects will be implemented by the Presidency.

They include a project for cooling those areas which don't have air conditioning at the Grand Mosque and the construction of a training and managerial development building.

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Old October 9th, 2007, 06:25 AM   #13
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Further Expansion of Grand Mosque Planned

P.K. Abdul Ghafour & Badea Abu Al-Naja, Arab News

JEDDAH, 30 April 2007 — Plans have been made to increase the capacity of the Grand Mosque in Makkah by 35 percent in order to accommodate the growing numbers of pilgrims and worshippers especially during the peak Haj and Umrah seasons, sources close to the project said.

The sources said that the Makkah Development Authority, the Makkah Municipality and the Presidency of the Two Holy Mosques’ Affairs are currently conducting intensive studies concerning the expansion project to be completed by 2020.

The Makkah Development Authority has approved the master plan for the development of Makkah’s central region. The plan aims at accommodating three million residents and eight million pilgrims.

The Saudi Binladin Group has begun work on the expansion of the running area (masaa) between Safa and Marwa. The project aims at reducing overcrowding and will be completed before the next Haj season. Plans are under way to air-condition the entire built-up area of the mosque.

The Saudi government has spent more than SR70 billion on the expansion of the Two Holy Mosques in recent years. Each mosque can now hold more than a million worshippers at a time.

As part of efforts to develop the city’s central region, in 2005 Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah launched six major projects, including the SR12 billion Jabal Omar Residential Towers. Spread over 230,000 square meters, the Jabal Omar project includes five-star hotels, commercial centers and prayer facilities.

According to Habib Zain Al-Abidine, undersecretary at the Ministry of Municipal and Rural Affairs, some 25 new real estate projects are being carried out in the center of Makkah. The total cost will exceed SR100 billion.

Sami Barhameen, secretary-general of the Makkah Development Authority, said the development projects to be implemented around the Grand Mosque were designed to enable worshippers to follow the imam at the Grand Mosque during prayers. The projects will not affect the underground flow of Zamzam water.

Faek Ibrahim, a trader in Makkah, welcomed the government’s move to expand the central area. “This project will benefit everybody,” he told Arab News. Ibrahim has been doing business in the Muddai area located close to the Haram for several years.

He and many other Saudi traders were asked to vacate the area at the time of the last expansion project 15 years ago. “All traders who vacated the area were given substantial amounts in compensation,” he said. The expansion created more housing and prayer areas for pilgrims and worshippers.

Muhammad Alauddin, a resident of the Shamiya neighborhood, believes that the new projects in the central area will change the face of Makkah, removing disorganized neighborhoods and dilapidated buildings. However, he complained that expatriate workers have benefited most froom the expansion work. “As a result, many Saudi traders in the area have lost their businesses,” he pointed out. This has happened not only in Shamiya but also in other areas such as Harrat Al-Bab, Al-Hijrah, Shabaka and Gaza.

Architect Mohammed Bazaid expressed his satisfaction over the continuous development of the central region. He said the new projects would transform Makkah into a world-class city. He also complained that non-Saudi workers have occupied most shops in areas surrounding the mosque.
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Masjid al-Haram

By Dr. Mozammel Haque
The Holy City of Makkah, which lies inland, 73 kilometres (45 miles) east of Jeddah, was the birthplace of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and was the city to which he returned after the migration to Madinah in 622 AD. Makkah is the holiest city on earth to Muslims. It is the place which captures the hearts of a billion Muslims all over the globe, a place where Allah’s Word was revealed to Muhammad (peace be upon him) and now the location of the Holy Mosque and the sacred Ka’abah. It is also the destination of millions of pilgrims and visitors and the holiest spot on earth.

Allah the Almighty honoured it in His Holy Book, in which it is given eleven names, including Makkah, Bakkah, Al-Balad Al-Amin, Al-Balad Al-Ameen, Al-Haram Al-Aamin and Um-Al-Qura. It was also the Will of Allah that the Holy Ka’abah be situated in Makkah. This Divine Will has affected the building and growth of the city as it is today.

The Holy City of Makkah houses the Holy Mosque wherein there is the Ka’abah, a large stone cube-shaped structure, therefore predates Islam, and, in Islamic tradition, it is associated as a shrine with the earliest history of man. In the northeast corner of the Ka’abah is set the Black Stone, given to the Prophet Ibrahim by the Archangel Jibril (Gabriel). Towards the end of the fifth century, the Quraysh, a tribe which had settled in the Makkan valley, took control of the Ka’abah. The Quraysh prospered in trade and the prestige of the Ka’abah brought many Arabs to the city on the annual Hajj. Yet, the Prophet Ibrahim’s message of the One God was gradually forgotten and pagan idolaters violated the sacred Ka’abah. Only a few visionaries kept the faith, until the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), who was born in 570 AD, returned from the Hijrah in 629 AD to destroy the pagan idols in the Ka’abah.

The first Sura of the Holy Qur’an was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) on the outskirts of Makkah. These revelations to the Prophet continued later. It was in and around Makkah that the early Muslims launched their "Jihad" against polytheism, heresy and idolatry. It was here that Allah gave victory to His Prophet and his fellow-believers when he triumphantly entered Makkah in the 8th year after Hijrah (630 AD), ending the state of polytheism and exalting the name of Allah, the one and only God. The idols were destroyed and God’s House was purified and Makkah became a secure and sacred city.

Muslims all over the world turn their faces in prayer five times a day towards the Ka’abah in Makkah and begin and end their pilgrimage with a "Tawaf" (Circumambulation) of it. And, at least once in their lives, all Muslims who are not prevented by personal circumstance perform the Hajj, the pilgrimage to Makkah. Thus each year, the Holy City of Makkah is host to some 2 million Hajjis (pilgrims) from all over the world. The pilgrimage instructions were first given to the Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham), peace be upon him, when Almighty God instructed him to build a house, the Ka’abah.

Thus, the religious centre of the Holy City of Makkah is the Holy Mosque (Al-Masjid Al-Haram) and the Well of Zamzam, located inside. The present Haram, meaning "sanctuary", dates from 1570 AD, and takes the form of a central quadrangle surrounded by stone walls. Around the inner sanctuary is a marble pavement, the El Mataf. The holiest shrine of Islam, the Ka’abah, as mentioned earlier, is situated at the heart of the Holy Mosque’s central courtyard.

Expansion of the Sacred Mosque of Makkah

A long and glorious tradition of expansion surrounds the Haram Mosque, dating back to 638 AD, when the increasing number of conversions to Islam led the second Caliph, Umar Ibn Al-Khattab, to develop the site.

When King Abdul Aziz established the modern Saudi State, one of his primary concerns, like that of the early Caliphs, was his role in overseeing the well-being of the pilgrims undertaking the annual Hajj. Aware that the Holy Mosque could not support the growing numbers of worshippers, he initiated a refurbishment and expansion programme. The expansion of The Two Holy Mosques in Makkah and Madinah was given priority by King Abdul Aziz and his successors. The achievements of King Abdul Aziz were unparalleled since the last expansion of the Holy Haram 1,096 years ago in the era of the Abbasid Caliph, Al-Muqtadir Billah. Efforts of the Ottoman Sultan, Saleem and his son Sultan Murad (1576) were confined to refurbishing the Mosque, not expanding it.

The expansion begun by King Abdul Aziz and completed during the reign of King Saud, was aimed at building a path 394 meters long and 20 metres (65 ft) wide close to the Masaa, and a 9-metre (30 ft) high second floor over the Masaa, in addition to a 2-way barrier and a path for disabled people in wheelchairs in the Masaa. The Masaa has 16 gates on the eastern side in addition to two entrances for the second floor, one at Al Safa and the other at Al Marwa.

The expansion of the Two Holy Mosques was given priority by King Abdul Aziz, Saud, Faisal and Khalid and totaled 131,041 square metres (157,250 square yards), compared to the Mosque’s previous area of 29,127 square metres (34,800 sq. yards.). This raised the total area to 160,168 sqaure metres (192,000 sq.yds.)

The King Fahd’s expansion of the Haramein project has a number of aims primarily the improvement, redecoration and expansion of the Holy Mosque, its courtyards and facilities, so that it can accommodate the largest possible number of worshippers. The most advanced technical innovations have been used to facilitate movement and prayer for pilgrims and visitors to the Haram and access to the cooled, pure water of "Zamzam".

Work on the new project began on September 13, 1988 when the King laid the foundation stone. The project included the addition of a new part to the Mosque from the Western side between the Umrah Gate and the King’s Gate. The area of the expansion floors totaled 76,000 square metres including the ground, first and basement floors, accommodating some 152,000 worshippers. The projects also include furnishing the mosque’s outer yards for prayer, an area totaling 85,000 sq. metres and accommodating 130,000 worshippers.

This raised the Sacred Mosque’s total area to about 365,000 square meters, accommodating 773,000 worshippers on normal days and more than one million during Haj season and the holy month of Ramadan.

The project also included the construction of a 750-metre long, 24 to 36 metre wide basement under the prayer area to the east of the Masaa.

The expansion building has one main gate, 18 ordinary gates and two new gates for the basement. This is in addition to the following pre-expansion gates: 3 main and 27 ordinary gates. It also has two 89-metre high minarets similar in design to the seven existing minarets, raising to 9 the total number of minarets.

A new air-conditioning system has been devised. For this purpose, a station has been setup in Ajiad with a total capacity of 13,500 cooling tons.

A new 2-storied toilet building covering an area of 14,000 sq. metres was built to the north of Masaa area. It contains 1440 toilets, 1091 ablution points and 162 drinking water taps. Separate toilets have been set aside for women complete with separate entrances.

The area of the basement totaled 20,000 squares, accommodating 33,000 worshippers. The area of the first floor totaled 47,000 square metres, accommodating 77,000 worshippers, the area of the roof after improvements totaled 42,000 square metres, accommodating 90,000 worshippers. There are 56 escalators.

The Tawaf area was tiled with heat-dissipating marble, doors were renewed and the Mosque’s library was established at a total cost of SR. 80 million. There are 55,000 lighting lamps connected by wires, whose combined length totaled 35,000 metres.

Expansion areas towards Al-Souq Al-Sagheer include: basement area 19,000 square metres, accommodating 35,000 worshippers; Ground floor area 19,000 square metres, accommodating 35,000 worshippers and first floor 16,000 square metres, accommodating 27,000 worshippers.

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Old October 9th, 2007, 12:14 PM   #15
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Imagine, the area increasing to 1,000,000 square meters from 330,000

That would just be awsome =) if it can hold 3 times as many people.
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As I said before, it was the expansion of the mas'a and by the way the extention of the holy mosque its self (civil work) and air-conditioning of the built up area of the holy mosque is going to be started after finishing the civil work of Abraj Al-bait project inshallah which means that work will start after 2 years inshallah.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:48 AM   #17
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I know a young architect works in Dar Al-Handasah ( (Sha'er and Partenrs)
The consultant architect of the new expantion of Mas'aa, and Abraj Albait also)

It is planned to construct the extention, then the existing masa'a (including Safa Dome And Minaret) will be rebuilt to unify the 2 parts in form and structure. It is big complicated work.

Images will explain what he told me.

But if someone find a high resoulotion edition of them, I will be grateful.

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This one shows the Masa'a before and after.


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This minaret is 179 m tall. it will be construted instead of the old 89m one . The old 20 m dia Safa dome will be replaced by 40m dia new one.


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wow

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3maaaaaaaaar ya makkah
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in simple way, the old mas'a will be demolished and re-developed again to be connected to the new mas'a project. This means that old mas'a will be just the marwa and the new one will be the safa.

Two floor will be increased and to don't be so high, they reduced the height of each floor of mas'a not same height of each floor as the current one inshallah (God willing).
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Old October 31st, 2007, 12:15 AM   #20
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that great i never thought it will be 3 floors,btw last time i was there i saw bridge from roof of al masa to Ajyad street what that use for?
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