Tell us about your vacation in Israel - Page 14

Kappa21 · October 24th, 2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pbrdpbrd

The myths....
I thought everybody knew english in Israel, because they use it as a second lenguage... not so... when I was talking to my relatives in English, many of them born in Israel, they could not understand all that I was saying... I asked: Atem lo medabrin English?, they mostly reply: we learnt it in school, we can read it but we are not that fluent when it comes to listening and talking....

They say they could speak English, but usually its very basic and minimal. Dont expect Israelis to have strong backbone to English. A good chunk would be able to speak with you because they been abroad or watch English based shows on TV, but most would know a word or two and thats about it.

TheCat · October 26th, 2011, 04:55 PM

It's definitely much more than a word or two for a large section of the population, but it largely depends on many factors, including people's age, educational background, and even socioeconomic background.

To be able to speak and understand spoken language fluently, one generally has to either have lived in a country where the language is spoken for some time, or really use the language on a regular basis in some other way.

While in Israel everyone learns English and many people know it at a reasonably high level, as the original poster mentioned they can read/write well, but they'd probably need a few months of immersion to achieve oral fluency.

Don't forget that despite the relatively high level of English education in Israel, it remains a country where the main language is not English. All subjects in Israeli schools (for the Jewish majority) are taught in Hebrew with no exception, with English simply being one of the subjects taught. It is different from some other countries where (often more privileged) students are taught completely in English from an early age, or where one of the widely used languages is English (e.g. in India).

Watching TV shows certainly helps, but all of the Western shows in Israel have Hebrew subtitles, and the ones for little children (e.g. cartoons) are usually dubbed into Hebrew.

PS: In many fields in university, students in Israel are required to have a good knowledge of English because English-language textbooks are often used in their original untranslated forms. Occasionally there are even professors who speak English. This is certainly true in Engineering, since I have a good friend in Israel who's studying that right now.

yerushalmi · October 31st, 2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kappa21

They say they could speak English, but usually its very basic and minimal. Dont expect Israelis to have strong backbone to English. A good chunk would be able to speak with you because they been abroad or watch English based shows on TV, but most would know a word or two and thats about it.

"They say they could CAN speak English, but usually its very basic and minimal same thing. Dont expect Israelis to have A strong backbone WRONG EXPRESSION = courage to English. A good chunk chunk? for people? would be ARE able to speak with you because they HAVE been abroad or watch English based shows on TV, but most would wrong know a word or two and thats about it.

So Kappa, I'm afraid with 7 mistakes in 2 sentences a good chunk of your english is crap. and you're Canadian.

Kappa21 · October 31st, 2011, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerushalmi

"They say they could CAN speak English, but usually its very basic and minimal same thing. Dont expect Israelis to have A strong backbone WRONG EXPRESSION = courage to English. A good chunk chunk? for people? would be ARE able to speak with you because they HAVE been abroad or watch English based shows on TV, but most would wrong know a word or two and thats about it.

So Kappa, I'm afraid with 7 mistakes in 2 sentences a good chunk of your english is crap. and you're Canadian.

its the Ipad i tell you!!!!!

yerushalmi · October 31st, 2011, 04:30 PM

you probably got the "iBad" model.

Kappa21 · October 31st, 2011, 04:41 PM

Seriously, its a forum...im not going to put so much efforts as I would writing a business case or a school report.
it took you 10 minutes to correct me.. (posted 9:52, edited 10:02). You gotta invest more of your time into better things.

And its more like an isuckmydickuntilthenewversionarrivesPad

yerushalmi · October 31st, 2011, 05:21 PM

nah, I just dumbgraded my witty reply to something you'd understand.

heindecastro · November 26th, 2011, 11:30 PM

הייתי בישראל בשביל תגלית אז זה היה בחינם חחחחח אבל אני רוצה להגיע שוב. מאיפה אפשר לקבל מלונות או דירות זולות? בי-ם או בת"א יהיה בסדר. תודה רבה ידידים

asparuh88 · July 28th, 2012, 08:23 PM

I have to visit Israel the next year

In particular Jerusalem

I woud like to make my specialistic there (i'm studing in the accademy of fine arts in Rome) I can't wait to cooome!

matrix2020 · July 28th, 2012, 11:19 PM

I dunno, I studied my English in Israel (obviously) and at the very least I could read stuff in English after I finished school.
I think I could also understand but not talk back as I didn't have enough practice at the time.
I learned to speak after I started working as IT/tech support guy in a high tech firm whose clients were mostly Americans.
My boss pretty much forced me to start talking to them and after a while it was fine

Kappa21 · July 28th, 2012, 11:23 PM

I couldve gave you some pointers while you were in Toronto...but nooooooooo....

So what do you speak? Eng/Rus/Heb? Yiddish? Polanit?

matrix2020 · July 29th, 2012, 12:34 AM

I speak Russian, Hebrew and English

And sorry about the Toronto thing, but I think we still have a chance to meet as I am sure its not my last visit to Canada

Kappa21 · July 29th, 2012, 01:07 AM

I just wanted to show Panorma on Bloor. Its a Bar/Lounge/Restaurant place

Because when you come up on Bloor Street, you are on a hill of some sorts, you kinda have a better view of Toronto. The Manulife building which is like 45 floors would actually be 100+ floors w/ the hill if it was in the downtown financial core.

A great shot to take

heindecastro · July 29th, 2012, 07:51 AM

Hey Kappa. I'm moving to Boston or Chicago next year and I might visit Toronto before going back to work.

Kappa21 · July 29th, 2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by heindecastro

Hey Kappa. I'm moving to Boston or Chicago next year and I might visit Toronto before going back to work.

Come!
Every bodies a guest in Kappa's Fellatio palace

I have met more people on SSC and SSL Israel forum than any other poster

Gzdvtz · July 29th, 2012, 09:38 AM

I've met so far Zohar, Aliya, and Kavim. Looking forward to meeting others

***Urban Legend*** · July 29th, 2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kappa21

I couldve gave you some pointers while you were in Toronto...but nooooooooo....

So what do you speak? Eng/Rus/Heb? Yiddish? Polanit?

No one want to meet you after the sick pictures you posted here.
People think you like that Canadian porn star who killed his boyfriend and choped him.

Kappa21 · July 29th, 2012, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Legend

No one want to meet you after the sick pictures you posted here.
People think you like that Canadian porn star who killed his boyfriend and choped him.

you want some more pictures

how about seeing someone get run over?

Arad · March 27th, 2013, 09:35 PM

During Pesach (passover) holiday, Bank Hapoalim continues for the 9th year its public project of funding
opening art museums, nature reserves, zoos, and historical attractions free to the public.
48 attractions are open from today until sunday (March 31st):

list (heb)

October 26th, 2011, 04:55 PM	#262
TheCat IsraCanadian :) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,364 Likes (Received): 3	It's definitely much more than a word or two for a large section of the population, but it largely depends on many factors, including people's age, educational background, and even socioeconomic background. To be able to speak and understand spoken language fluently, one generally has to either have lived in a country where the language is spoken for some time, or really use the language on a regular basis in some other way. While in Israel everyone learns English and many people know it at a reasonably high level, as the original poster mentioned they can read/write well, but they'd probably need a few months of immersion to achieve oral fluency. Don't forget that despite the relatively high level of English education in Israel, it remains a country where the main language is not English. All subjects in Israeli schools (for the Jewish majority) are taught in Hebrew with no exception, with English simply being one of the subjects taught. It is different from some other countries where (often more privileged) students are taught completely in English from an early age, or where one of the widely used languages is English (e.g. in India). Watching TV shows certainly helps, but all of the Western shows in Israel have Hebrew subtitles, and the ones for little children (e.g. cartoons) are usually dubbed into Hebrew. PS: In many fields in university, students in Israel are required to have a good knowledge of English because English-language textbooks are often used in their original untranslated forms. Occasionally there are even professors who speak English. This is certainly true in Engineering, since I have a good friend in Israel who's studying that right now. __________________ Check out my driving videos on Youtube \| Please visit the Highways & Autobahns forum Last edited by TheCat; October 26th, 2011 at 05:01 PM.

October 31st, 2011, 04:30 PM	#265
yerushalmi BANNED Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,249 Likes (Received): 2	you probably got the "iBad" model. Last edited by yerushalmi; October 31st, 2011 at 04:37 PM.

November 26th, 2011, 11:30 PM	#268
heindecastro Jewish American Queer Join Date: May 2010 Location: United States of Awesomesauce Posts: 90 Likes (Received): 0	הייתי בישראל בשביל תגלית אז זה היה בחינם חחחחח אבל אני רוצה להגיע שוב. מאיפה אפשר לקבל מלונות או דירות זולות? בי-ם או בת"א יהיה בסדר. תודה רבה ידידים Last edited by heindecastro; July 29th, 2012 at 07:52 AM.

July 28th, 2012, 08:23 PM	#269
asparuh88 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Пловдив/Plovdiv-Рим/Roma Posts: 1,696 Likes (Received): 192	I have to visit Israel the next year In particular Jerusalem I woud like to make my specialistic there (i'm studing in the accademy of fine arts in Rome) I can't wait to cooome! __________________ "Имаме шанс да не сме вече сиви, а красиви. 3аедно!"

July 29th, 2012, 09:38 AM	#276
Gzdvtz Whatevah Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ☭υρώπη Posts: 4,677	I've met so far Zohar, Aliya, and Kavim. Looking forward to meeting others __________________ You can put a bullet through my head, but you can’t kill the word I said. Don’t pray in my school and I won’t think in your temple.

October 31st, 2011, 04:41 PM	#266
Kappa21 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6,663 Likes (Received): 159	Seriously, its a forum...im not going to put so much efforts as I would writing a business case or a school report. it took you 10 minutes to correct me.. (posted 9:52, edited 10:02). You gotta invest more of your time into better things. And its more like an isuckmydickuntilthenewversionarrivesPad

October 31st, 2011, 05:21 PM	#267
yerushalmi BANNED Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,249 Likes (Received): 2	nah, I just dumbgraded my witty reply to something you'd understand.

July 28th, 2012, 11:19 PM	#270
matrix2020 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 667 Likes (Received): 54	I dunno, I studied my English in Israel (obviously) and at the very least I could read stuff in English after I finished school. I think I could also understand but not talk back as I didn't have enough practice at the time. I learned to speak after I started working as IT/tech support guy in a high tech firm whose clients were mostly Americans. My boss pretty much forced me to start talking to them and after a while it was fine

July 28th, 2012, 11:23 PM	#271
Kappa21 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6,663 Likes (Received): 159	I couldve gave you some pointers while you were in Toronto...but nooooooooo.... So what do you speak? Eng/Rus/Heb? Yiddish? Polanit?

July 29th, 2012, 12:34 AM	#272
matrix2020 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 667 Likes (Received): 54	I speak Russian, Hebrew and English And sorry about the Toronto thing, but I think we still have a chance to meet as I am sure its not my last visit to Canada

July 29th, 2012, 01:07 AM	#273
Kappa21 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6,663 Likes (Received): 159	I just wanted to show Panorma on Bloor. Its a Bar/Lounge/Restaurant place Because when you come up on Bloor Street, you are on a hill of some sorts, you kinda have a better view of Toronto. The Manulife building which is like 45 floors would actually be 100+ floors w/ the hill if it was in the downtown financial core. A great shot to take

July 29th, 2012, 07:51 AM	#274
heindecastro Jewish American Queer Join Date: May 2010 Location: United States of Awesomesauce Posts: 90 Likes (Received): 0	Hey Kappa. I'm moving to Boston or Chicago next year and I might visit Toronto before going back to work.

March 27th, 2013, 09:35 PM	#279
Arad Arad Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Arad Posts: 878 Likes (Received): 183	During Pesach (passover) holiday, Bank Hapoalim continues for the 9th year its public project of funding opening art museums, nature reserves, zoos, and historical attractions free to the public. 48 attractions are open from today until sunday (March 31st): list (heb) Last edited by Arad; March 27th, 2013 at 09:41 PM.

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