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Old July 16th, 2008, 02:25 AM   #1
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Spadina Subway Extension | Expropriation | 8.7 km | $2.63 Billion | North York & York Region

Spadina Subway Line Extension


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Preferred Alignment Overview



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Old July 16th, 2008, 06:36 PM   #2
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Thanks for the update Hope it goes thru still.. I think once this is done, they should have a overground subway connection at Steeles West going thru the hydro corridor west into Brampton <-> Finch subway <-> To Eastward Markham etc
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Old July 18th, 2008, 12:59 PM   #3
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I predict this won't be a very pleasant ride. All these sharp turns will produce the headache inducing screeching like before & after Union Station.
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Old July 18th, 2008, 03:39 PM   #4
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I think those curves are far wider (larger radius?) than anything around Union. It was one of the requirements during the planning phases.
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Old July 18th, 2008, 04:35 PM   #5
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I predict this won't be a very pleasant ride. All these sharp turns will produce the headache inducing screeching like before & after Union Station.
I've tried to measure the curve by scaling maps and actually drafting the alignment in; it is around a 120 metre radius on the inside track; the minimum radius the trains can handle is 116 metres. The York St/Uni Ave. curve is around 130 metres.

As you can see in the curve chart, the sharpest turn is 310m, and the other turns are quite gentle: only 4 curves altogether, 2 of which are so gentle (over 750m radius) they can be taken at full speed, and the third curve can still be taken at 64km/h . Only the curve immediately north of Downsview is sharp (likely because the alignment of Downsview Station itself was built assuming a more northerly extension to close the loop via the Hydro corridor or Steeles, I suspect... I beleive I have those studies lying around, I'll post them later)
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Old July 18th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #6
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On behalf of both expected riders, I hope you're right.
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Old July 18th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #7
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I certainly hope that this project gets put on the back burner.

The DRL and Yonge extentions are much more important. Even TC is more important than the Sorbara subway.
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Old July 19th, 2008, 05:20 AM   #8
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Where's the section to VCC?
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Old July 19th, 2008, 04:01 PM   #9
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^Hopefully DOA.


Down with Spadina extension.
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Old July 19th, 2008, 04:30 PM   #10
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Seriously, why isn't it shown?
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Old July 19th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #11
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so they've started construction on this extension already?
yes or no?
like the thread says u/c but ppl r still saying they hope it happens
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Old July 20th, 2008, 02:13 AM   #12
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Seriously, why isn't it shown?
The north section is not being constructed by TTC or Toronto, it is a separate study being conducted by York Region. I don't know where you might find the equivalent information.
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Old July 20th, 2008, 09:28 AM   #13
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so they've started construction on this extension already?
yes or no?
like the thread says u/c but ppl r still saying they hope it happens
Depends if you count relocation of underground services that are in the way of the subway alignment. That relocation of existing underground services is currently taking place at the site of the York U Station and previously a mainline sewer was relocated at the site of the Steeles West station.
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Old July 20th, 2008, 02:50 PM   #14
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so they've started construction on this extension already?
yes or no?
like the thread says u/c but ppl r still saying they hope it happens
Legally, to get their funding, construction must start within 1 year of the funding announcement.

For the purposes of this requirement, construction has started. For the purposes of finishing the project, construction has not started. They have not tendered any components aside from the sewer relocation at one point on the map to fulfil the legal obligations.

That said, there is a very very high probability that it will be completed on time and within budget. The big holdup is federal money which is coming in a lump with money for thousands of other projects. Negotiations on those other projects is causing slowdowns.
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 05:04 PM   #15
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Is the majority of this extension tunnelled?
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 05:10 PM   #16
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Is the majority of this extension tunnelled?
South of Steeles it is ALL tunneled, no surface at all between Downsview and Steeles West.
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Old July 24th, 2008, 07:35 AM   #17
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"That said, there is a very very high probability that it will be completed on time and within budget"

-tell me what the within time and budget is. .... if the time is 10 years, then okay, but i doubt thats what they said at the begining. and i know its gonna cost more than what they said it was gonna cost at first. ... in this society, they HAVE to lie about the expected costs and/or timetable

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Old July 25th, 2008, 12:53 AM   #18
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Is the sheppard west station necessary?
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Old July 25th, 2008, 01:20 AM   #19
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Is the sheppard west station necessary?
Yes and no. For a GO connection at the Barrie South Line, planned redevelopments inside Downsview Park (townhouses, possibly more stuff) and the Chesswood Industrial Park on the north side which employs a decent number of workers.

It won't be high in demand but not a total dud. Riders of the 84, 106, 107 and 108 will now an earlier oppurtunity to access the subway. I also like the trend of phasing back to reasonable spacing gaps between stops. If we went non-stop to Finch West the local communities adjacent suffer.
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Old July 25th, 2008, 01:48 AM   #20
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subways shouldn't be treated like a bus service a stop every block
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