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View Poll Results: Rate The Citicorp Center, NY
10 134 17.70%
9.5 67 8.85%
9 127 16.78%
8.5 82 10.83%
8 112 14.80%
7.5 61 8.06%
7 51 6.74%
6.5 27 3.57%
6 19 2.51%
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Old October 18th, 2002, 12:57 AM   #1
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#062 l Citigroup Center l NEW YORK l 279m l 59fl

Citigroup Center
New York, USA


HEIGHT: 279m/915 feet
FLOORS: 59 floors
COMPLETION: 1977
ARCHITECT: Stubbins Associates

From the very beginning, the Citicorp Center (today, the Citigroup Center) in New York City was an engineering challenge. When planning for the skyscraper began in the early 1970s, the northwest corner of the proposed building site was occupied by St. Peter's Lutheran Church. The church allowed Citicorp to build the skyscraper under one condition: a new church would have to be built on the same corner, with no connection to the Citicorp building and no columns passing through it.

How did the engineers do it? They set the 59-story tower on four massive columns, positioned at the center of each side, rather than at the corners. This design allowed the northwest corner of the building to cantilever 72 feet over the new church.

In 1978, the skyscraper's chief structural engineer, William LeMessurier, discovered a potentially fatal flaw in the building's design: the skyscraper's bolted joints were too weak to withstand 70-mile-per-hour wind gusts. With hurricane season fast approaching, LeMessurier took no chances. He convinced Citicorp officers to hire a crew of welders to repair the fragile building. For the next three months, a construction crew welded two-inch-thick steel plates over each of the skyscraper's 200 bolted joints, permanently correcting the problem.















Some pics of this building's very unique base.






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Old October 18th, 2002, 01:08 AM   #2
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I'm going to hi-jack this thread pretty soon, because this building is part of the Tallest 100. I'm moving it to the ROT 100 forum...
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Old October 18th, 2002, 01:13 AM   #3
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10/10 just because my aunt works in this building and i've been inside of it so many times haha , I wish she worked on a higher floor though...
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Old October 18th, 2002, 01:39 AM   #4
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8.5/10

I love looking at this one. Its top has grown on me..and its base is so unique too! mookie..whats the interior like?
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Old October 18th, 2002, 08:09 AM   #5
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great tower . . one of my American top 10 . . 9.5/10
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Old October 18th, 2002, 09:53 AM   #6
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The base and the way it solved problems that it encountered like almost no other designed skyscraper could get through, surprises me.

It is a bit wide, but the shape that the mass damping system gives to this building is good.

7.5/10
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Old October 18th, 2002, 05:24 PM   #7
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Its a very unique building the roof is amazing and the base is incredible 9/10
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Old October 18th, 2002, 11:46 PM   #8
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Great building.

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Old October 19th, 2002, 10:39 AM   #9
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mookiecece, your lucky!
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Old October 28th, 2002, 02:34 AM   #10
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interesting...looks like you could point this one out anywhere. 8.5/10
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Old October 28th, 2002, 03:52 AM   #11
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nice building but i don't like the base
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Old October 31st, 2002, 05:55 AM   #12
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Always looks so angry.

Severe.

Ahead of its time.

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Old October 31st, 2002, 09:07 AM   #13
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Somehow I'm not wild about this one. 6.
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Old October 31st, 2002, 04:54 PM   #14
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I have always had mixed feelings about this one. It is certainly striking, but it is poorly proportioned and inelegant. The base perverts the relationship a building should have with the street. Propping a relatively fat building up on props (like the strange Ranier Bldg in Seattle) makes the whole thing look top-heavy and disturbing.
They should have followed through with the original idea to put solar panels on the top. 5
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Old November 6th, 2002, 06:29 PM   #15
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9/10. Beautiful.
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Old November 6th, 2002, 09:33 PM   #16
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Very bold and impressive tower !
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Old November 6th, 2002, 11:04 PM   #17
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A very impressive tower.
I like it allot,the base.The top,i love it all

I'll give it a 9/10
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Old November 8th, 2002, 02:15 AM   #18
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I love looking at this one. Its top has grown on me..and its base is so unique too! mookie..whats the interior like?
hmmmm..... the interior...... I don't exactly remember so I'm just gonna say it's very modern and high quality haha. There are restaurants, stores, and a barns & nobles bookstore on the first and basement floor. I've seen homeless people come in and chill in the basement too.
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Old November 8th, 2002, 03:19 AM   #19
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5/10 - the aluminum and glass dance with the light well, but the tower is blocky and monotonous, the shape of the top is not very elegant, and the base - well, i agree with Subdude - it looks like it's walking on stilts, and the effect is unnatural, topheavy, and disturbing - just like, as Subdude observes, the Rainier Tower in Seattle - I have seen a picture of this tower, and Paul Goldberger in his book "On the Rise", refers to its disturbing small base carrying a much larger tower as narcisistic self-indulgence on the architect's part, if I recall correctly. He's correct about the Rainier Tower, and I tend to think he might be correct here as well. Besides, it looks just a wee tiny bit tacky...
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Old November 9th, 2002, 12:49 AM   #20
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The base is spectacular, especially with the church next to it (built as part of the complex). I cannot say enough about how impressive and monolithic the base is, it gets a 10/10 HOWEVER...

The tower is bland, I despise strong horizontal bands of windows on boxes and here they are at their worst, too thin and they make the tower seem much shorter and more squat than it really is. Sloped roof? Great, but since the whole point of the sloped roof (solar panels) was never brought to fruition, there is no "form following function" and it screams failure. Beyond that one cannot forget the fact that the structural design was flawed and had to be quietly damped to avoid a catastrophe after the tower was finished.

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