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Old August 14th, 2014, 10:49 PM   #41
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Galway is a great spot. It has about 80,000 people when you include Oranmore so it'll be great to see it top the 100,000 mark. The combination of arts scene, student population, tourism and significant FDI is powerful and is likely to keep the city growing at a fast pace for some time yet.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 02:36 AM   #42
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Start ups my arse, 4 of those companies in the graphic have a combined age of over 200 years ( Avaya alone is 100 years old and a spin off of Bell Laboratories) and most of the rest are in Alpha funding rounds.

Weckler always was a complete clown as a journalist so why am I surprised he completely missed the point.....again.



The companies that have gone from start up to positive cash flow to sale and cashing in are generally in the Biosciences field if they are in Galway.

Weckler couldn't even find one of them for his graphic, unsurprisingly so as he copied and pasted a PR puff piece without even leaving Dublin...... like he normally does.

There are at least €1bn worth of indigenously formed Bioscience technology companies in and around Galway (if they were all bought tomorrow) so the oversight is inexcusable.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 07:07 AM   #43
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Dublin is tech central. Galway is mini tech.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 11:00 AM   #44
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Options for Galway airport site set to be examined

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Galway Airport suffered from the withdrawal of state subsidies for air services in 2011

GALWAY'S two local authorities are to employ consultants to carry out a feasibility study for the development of the 
115-acre site that contains 
Galway Airport.

Galway city and county councils last November purchased the airport site for €1.1m in a bid to ensure that the economic potential of the large strategic tract of land was realised.

The move by the Councils followed the withdrawal of State subsidising air services in 2011 that led to a gradual withdrawal of commercial air services from the facility.

The most recent accounts for the firm, Corrib Airport Ltd that operated the airport, had accumulated losses totalling €5.6m at end of December 2012..

In the tender documentation, the local authorities state that a host of uses can be considered for the land's future use including manufacturing activity; Research & Development; Aviation activity; renewable energy activity; food production; logistics and providing a site for the film industry.

According to the Councils, "the scoping study should also examine the short medium and long term potential of the site in recognition of the current capital investment limitations within the Irish economy".

The Councils have also asked the successful tenderer to provide a rationale for the selection of shortlist of proposals and the options' financial implications.

Former Galway city mayor, Cllr Padraig Conneely (FG) said yesterday that the site "is ideally placed for an industrial IT hub".

He said: "It is very accessible as it is very close to the Dublin motorway and is on the right side of Galway in terms of traffic."

Cllr Conneely said that it was the right decision by the councils to purchase the site. He said: "€1.1m for 115 acres is very good value. It was a strategic decision to go out and purchase the site."

The closing date for tenders is September 11.

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Old August 15th, 2014, 11:32 AM   #45
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Dublin is tech central. Galway is mini tech.
Depends.

Dublin has a lot more people working for 'tech' companies but a lot of those Dublin jobs are based in support roles such as sales, HR, customer service and so on. Dublin still doesn't carry out a lot of work in areas such as software development and research/development.

Galway seems to have more focus on research, innovation and they have a strong start-up base.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 11:33 AM   #46
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Friday, 15 August 2014 7:35 Written by: Ciaran Tierney


The unused 'ghost lane' on Seamus Quirke Road (behind bollards to right of photo), which has been covered in a layer of stones.

Local residents have issued a call for the site of a proposed €15 million supermarket in Rahoon to be rezoned for use as a public park after An Bord Pleanála (ABP) turned down a controversial planning application this week.

Residents in Highfield Park are set to call for the site to be rezoned for ‘amenity’ use after expressing relief that permission for the planned development by former Mayor of Galway Micheal Ó hUiginn had been refused.

ABP turned down permission for the development at the site of a disused timberyard at Rahoon Road, almost 11 months after a full oral hearing took place at a city hotel last year.

The appeals board found that the project’s “excessive scale” would conflict with zoning objectives and the retail strategy for the city – taking away from the “vibrancy and vitality” of the city centre.

Traders body RGDATA joined with local residents from Rahoon Road, Highfield Park, and Maunsells Road, as well as the owners of the nearby Westside Shopping Centre, in opposing the plan.

“Highfield Park Residents’ Association welcome the outcome and are not surprised,” said a spokesman, Ronan MacGearailt. “We are satisfied that the concerns of the local residents have been upheld by this decision.”

He said that residents were now seeking to have the site rezoned, so that a public park for the people of the Westside could be built between Rahoon Road and Seamus Quirke Road.

And a ‘ghost lane’ which was built on the redeveloped Seamus Quirke Road to service the new shopping centre may not now ever be used.

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Old August 15th, 2014, 12:08 PM   #47
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Just to go back to talk about potential City of Culture and theatres/venues in Galway, NUIG are looking to develop a Centre for Theatre & Performance in their existing Civil Engineering Workshops and Soils Labs. Looks like an excellent project and it would be great to see it get off the ground.

http://www.mytenders.ie/search/show/...x?ID=JUN408465
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Old August 17th, 2014, 04:44 PM   #48
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Depends.

Dublin has a lot more people working for 'tech' companies but a lot of those Dublin jobs are based in support roles such as sales, HR, customer service and so on. Dublin still doesn't carry out a lot of work in areas such as software development and research/development.

Galway seems to have more focus on research, innovation and they have a strong start-up base.
A bit hard to take that argument seriously though unless your own city has an Intel or Hewlett Packard - because not many cities in the world do what is done in Dublin on the physical component side (r+d + large scale manufacturing). The closest to Dublin in "Europe" (though it's not in Europe) is Tel-Aviv.

On the software side customer service is obviously a large part of it but core activities are also done in Dublin as well and not just by the larger multinationals. There are a lot of start ups in the city too.

Galway seems to be big on the gaming side but in my opinion it needs a big anchor like an Intel.

In Belfast on the engineering side you have Bombardier. So other companies think they are there so we have to be there. Clustering effect.
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Old August 17th, 2014, 08:57 PM   #49
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A bit hard to take that argument seriously though unless your own city has an Intel or Hewlett Packard - because not many cities in the world do what is done in Dublin on the physical component side (r+d + large scale manufacturing). The closest to Dublin in "Europe" (though it's not in Europe) is Tel-Aviv.

On the software side customer service is obviously a large part of it but core activities are also done in Dublin as well and not just by the larger multinationals. There are a lot of start ups in the city too.

Galway seems to be big on the gaming side but in my opinion it needs a big anchor like an Intel.

In Belfast on the engineering side you have Bombardier. So other companies think they are there so we have to be there. Clustering effect.
The problem with a small city like Galway having an Intel is that eventually it'll go the way of Dell in Limerick, and possibly destroy the city's economy.
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A bit hard to take that argument seriously though unless your own city has an Intel or Hewlett Packard - because not many cities in the world do what is done in Dublin on the physical component side (r+d + large scale manufacturing). The closest to Dublin in "Europe" (though it's not in Europe) is Tel-Aviv.

On the software side customer service is obviously a large part of it but core activities are also done in Dublin as well and not just by the larger multinationals. There are a lot of start ups in the city too.

Galway seems to be big on the gaming side but in my opinion it needs a big anchor like an Intel.

In Belfast on the engineering side you have Bombardier. So other companies think they are there so we have to be there. Clustering effect.

I'll come back to the tech debate later but Belfast has always been a centre for engineering, long before Bombardier took over Shorts. It's more then one big company here, we've lots of them and have had for over 100 years.

Our aerospace is flourishing and that can be attributed to Belfast designing and making things such as the wings and fuselage of Bombardier's new jets. Not engineering in general though.
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The problem with a small city like Galway having an Intel is that eventually it'll go the way of Dell in Limerick, and possibly destroy the city's economy.

Agreed, Galway should stay focused on specialised aspects of development and research. It's much more highly valued and better paid.
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Agreed, Galway should stay focused on specialised aspects of development and research. It's much more highly valued and better paid.
Galway should definitely seek to preserve and promote its cluster of talent and companies which are in the medical devices sector. If anything is the Intel of Galway it's probably Boston Scientific which has its largest medical device manufacturing centre in the world in the city and around it are lots more foreign device manufacturers and indigenous producers like Creganna. That's something they've worked hard to create and has become self-sustaining so they should ensure that that virtuous cycle remains. The IDA should also be assiduous in courting emerging medical device firms and sending them to Galway while Enterprise Ireland supports Irish companies in that space to expand from Galway.

Ireland generally should use the regional cities as anchors for specific sectors of FDI. Galway for medical devices, Cork for pharmaceuticals, Limerick for supply chain management and Waterford for customer services and back office support. They have the scale, availability of educated labour, transport infrastructure and lifestyle which is attractive for multinationals.
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The IDA should also be assiduous in courting emerging medical device firms and sending them to Galway while Enterprise Ireland supports Irish companies in that space to expand from Galway..
The IDA should send them to Castlebar/Westport or Ennis/Shannon Sligo or Athlone instead as they will only cannibalise the existing employers if they come in, I quite agree on Enterprise Ireland.
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The problem with a small city like Galway having an Intel is that eventually it'll go the way of Dell in Limerick, and possibly destroy the city's economy.
Well it's what happened with DEC (Digital) in Galway. They closed their manufacturing in 1993 with over 700 jobs lost. Obvioulsy they kept the software side which is what HP in Galway is a continuation of (DEC -> Compaq -> HP). There's fella's in HP who've basically been working there for over 20years
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Well it's what happened with DEC (Digital) in Galway. They closed their manufacturing in 1993 with over 700 jobs lost. Obvioulsy they kept the software side which is what HP in Galway is a continuation of (DEC -> Compaq -> HP). There's fella's in HP who've basically been working there for over 20years
I remember reading that it was actually a good thing that Digital closed, at least when it did as the overall economy was on the rise. Lots of talent which had been trained up by DEC was released which gave lots of other companies a lift.
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I remember reading that it was actually a good thing that Digital closed, at least when it did as the overall economy was on the rise. Lots of talent which had been trained up by DEC was released which gave lots of other companies a lift.
Sure in the longrun but 1993 was a dark year in Galway. There's more people working there today then at the height of DEC's manufacturing business in the 1980's. Higher value jobs at that (software, cloud research etc.)
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I'm out of touch of the going on's in Galway, are there plans to merge Galway city and county councils (akin to what happened with Limerick and Waterford). I'd imagine if they did so that the "metropolitian district" within any such merged council would consist of the current City + Oranmore + Bearna?
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No.

The merging of Limerick City and County was intended to create a more equitable ratings base for the City ( the County was building EG shopping centres in Dooradoyle to bleed the city of its rates base) and Limerick City was well out into the County and into Clare (where shopping centres were built too) many years ago.

Galway was left alone as the City is still ..just... inside its rather large 1985 boundary extension but in perhaps 20 years time Barna and Oranmore and the proposed intermediate SDZ/Township of Ardaun largely located in the county and north of the new Oranmore Train Station will probably be thrown into one planning authority.

It seems the last attempt to rationalise the mess in Limerick ...in 2008...failed in its overall intent. Then to add insult the official Limerick City population dropped in 2011 to near 50k meaning that half the population of Limerick City would not live in Limerick City (real population 95000 or so) by 2021.
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Well I've read a couple posts online in the likes of the Tuam Herald pointing to it been a possibility (Waterford also had it merged), with mentions of after local election this year etc. Supposedly "Big Phil" passed the buck on the Cork boundary by giving them 5 years to sort it out or "he'd do it himself" (given he's off to Brussels who knows what happen).

From what I can see of the "Waterford metropolitan area" (population 65k) it includes a fair bit of "rural land" including Tramore and Dungannon. The new Limerick "Metropolitian area" is what just north of 100k, with good chunk of "rural land" within it's electoral boundary.

Anyways my question is more along the lines of do we need two county level local authorities in Galway. Personally I'd be more inclined to merge them -- though I would probably section off Cois Fharraige/na hÓileann/Árann as a separate local authority now that I think about it.
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Yeah, Galway's boundaries were, of the five city council areas, the most coherent, contiguous and logical. Basically all of Galway city is in the area governed by Galway city council. While Oranmore and Claregalway, satellite towns of the city, are excluded there isn't a pressing need to include them within the boundary just yet.

The new metropolitan area of Limerick is quite unusual - it's still quite defined by the Limerick county border which I find to be unusual when it straddles the Limerick/Clare border. I've felt that the boundary should have been drawn as a vague ellipse with Parteen, Annacotty, Raheen Business Park and Caherdavin as the edges.
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