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Old March 30th, 2013, 04:19 AM   #101
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That is good news indeed, hopefully that will happen, also around the Colbert area, it would be nice to see that ugly building of 3 storey terraced houses on the Hyde Road being demolished and perhaps building some office or apartment building instead, because the current state of it is beyond horrible, smashed out windows, doors covered with planks etc...

Oh and also really looking forward for the bike sharing program to launch ASAP, really hope, they'll have it done by the end of summer this year
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Typical bullshit. The last plan to revamp the city was random pockets of repaving and pedestrianization. Maybe they should finish that first?
Leaving National plans aside, the Local Government in Limerick does seem "wayward" to put it mildly. Its hardly a new phenomenom, this is the Authority afterall that in the 50s/60s erected council houses right beside King Johns Castle!!
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[QUOTE=thebig C;101809188]Leaving National plans aside, the Local Government in Limerick does seem "wayward" to put it mildly. Its hardly a new phenomenom, this is the Authority afterall that in the 50s/60s erected council houses right beside King Johns Castle!![/QUOTE]

It was actually INSIDE the castle!
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Just an update on the Limerick riverfront development I came across..see, eventhough im in Perth im still usefull!



It will be interesting to see all the little changes when I return for a visit in December!
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Old April 5th, 2013, 03:31 AM   #105
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Just an update on the Limerick riverfront development I came across..see, eventhough im in Perth im still usefull!



It will be interesting to see all the little changes when I return for a visit in December!
Good stuff. I'd say that's been filmed on a HTC phone given that they're taking photos as they're filming.

Hopefully you'll see a bike rental scheme in Limerick by the time you get back beside the newly-minted RTPI displays!
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Old June 14th, 2013, 04:15 PM   #106
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Development plan for Limerick ‘could deliver 5,000 jobs’
Kathryn Hayes

Last Updated: Friday, June 14, 2013, 13:12

Details of an ambitious €250m plan set to transform Limerick’s economy over the next two decades has been unveiled.

‘Limerick 2030 – An Economic and Spatial Plan for Limerick’ was unveiled today by Minister from the Environment, Community and Local Government Phil Hogan, Minister for Finance Michael Noonan and Minister of State for Housing and Planning Jan O’Sullivan.

It has the potential to deliver 5,000 new jobs and sets out a number of objectives to change the infrastructure of the city centre and deliver a whole new vision for Limerick as a leading centre for commercial investment.

Speaking at the launch, Limerick City and County Councils chief executive Conn Murray described Limerick 2030 as “a once in a generation plan to guide the economic, social and physical renaissance of Limerick city centre, the wider county and mid-west region”.

“The plan will allow us to work together to bring much needed investment to Limerick, to revitalise the city centre and to project a positive image giving confidence to investors, businesses and the local community,” he said.

“It is by design a flexible, dynamic framework capable of responding to changing circumstances and providing, perhaps for the first time, a holistic perspective on Limerick’s future. And it’s timely, as we move towards the full merger of Limerick City and County Councils in 2014,” he said.

The Limerick 2030 plan is structured around three main elements; an economic strategy, a spatial strategy and a marketing plan.

In addition to the launch of the Limerick 2030 plan, a charter of convergence and cohesion was also signed today by the heads of the principal agencies in the Mid-West region.

This charter, reminiscent of the original Charter of Limerick signed in 1197, sets out a series of commitments which at the centre contains a resolution to working in a collaborative way for the benefit of Limerick.

The signatories to the new charter are manager and chief executive of Limerick City and County Councils Conn Murray; president of the University of Limerick Prof Don Barry; president of Limerick Institute of Technology Dr Maria Hinfelaar; president of Mary Immaculate College Prof Michael Hayes; chief executive of Limerick Enterprise Development Partnership Liam McElligott; Chairperson of Shannon Airport Authority Rose Hynes; chief executive of Shannon Foynes Port Company Patrick Keating and chief executive of Limerick Chamber Maria Kelly.

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The plan can be found here.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #107
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The plan can be found here.
Is there no end to the glossy documents that Limerick city council produces trumpeting plans that they fully intend to ignore? If they spent half as much as they do on this crap on actually improving the city, Limerick wouldn't be the shithole it is.
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One thing which needs to be appreciated about Limerick is how wide the Shannon is as it wends its way through the centre of the city. Like the Liffey past the Loop Line Bridge, it presents the opportunity for some very high rise proposals which are appropriate given the surrounds. The Clarion Hotel and Riverpoint Tower are examples of this. Both are approximately 50 metres tall and they do not overbear as the wide course of the river gives the buildings space to display their quality. Therefore Limerick City Council should zone the riverfront for some very tall apartment and office schemes which could enable the city to quadruple the city centre and double the overall city population.

Limerick has had some notable advancements in the past such as Thomond Park, the Milk Market revamp, the expansion of UL, the Shannon Tunnel and the development of the Market Quarter as a bit of a cultural centre. They have had some setbacks such as the closure of the Belltable Theatre which is unfortunate in the run-up to its tenure as Irish City of Culture. That being said, I'd be confident in Limerick's future especially considering the ending of the city/council divide. Though, as the above has said, there needs to be implementation as well as expectation. This plans needs to be followed through.
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One thing which needs to be appreciated about Limerick is how wide the Shannon is as it wends its way through the centre of the city. Like the Liffey past the Loop Line Bridge, it presents the opportunity for some very high rise proposals which are appropriate given the surrounds. The Clarion Hotel and Riverpoint Tower are examples of this. Both are approximately 50 metres tall and they do not overbear as the wide course of the river gives the buildings space to display their quality. Therefore Limerick City Council should zone the riverfront for some very tall apartment and office schemes which could enable the city to quadruple the city centre and double the overall city population.

Limerick has had some notable advancements in the past such as Thomond Park, the Milk Market revamp, the expansion of UL, the Shannon Tunnel and the development of the Market Quarter as a bit of a cultural centre. They have had some setbacks such as the closure of the Belltable Theatre which is unfortunate in the run-up to its tenure as Irish City of Culture. That being said, I'd be confident in Limerick's future especially considering the ending of the city/council divide. Though, as the above has said, there needs to be implementation as well as expectation. This plans needs to be followed through.
Im over in Australia at the moment but have heard of this plan on rte news, one thing I would say is that back in the boom this was all planned..I could have told you this 7 years ago, however, it seems like only now that maybe things are picking up and funding could potentially be put in place, this is the most advanced the plan has come so I am very positive with this. If you look at other cities in Ireland outside Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford I think Limerick is the only city with 'big plans', almost as if it is playing catch up for all the years it was neglected, I think if I was non Irish Limerick's future would by far seem the most exciting.

Furthermore I see 142 jobs are to be created in Foynes, and UPC create more jobs in the city..Limerick is slowly coming back

By the way the plans can be seen here, some nice looking renders

http://www.limerickcity.ie/Planning/...anforLimerick/

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So Limerickguy, when are you coming home mate?
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So Limerickguy, when are you coming home mate?
Probably Christmas, doing my regional work soon so it will be another year and a bit until im back for good
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Taken from the Limerick Leader..Noonan wants to fast track this project so hopefully the ball will be rolling sooner rather than later

Limerick economic plan ‘could deliver 5,000 jobs’




Toward 2030: how a new square and retail development may appear in the city centre according to the new Economic and Spatial plan for Limerick



By Nick Rabbitts
Published on 17/06/2013 14:23



THE biggest urban renewal programme for the city centre in decades could deliver more than 5,000 jobs to the area.



The long-awaited economic strategy for Limerick City and County provides for a major transformation of the streetscape in the city centre, with the demolition of Sarsfield House, and the creation of a new city centre square included.

Codenamed Project Limerick, the plan gives a roadmap for a complete regeneration of the city centre by 2030.

Some €250m will be required for the plan - but Finance Minister Michael Noonan has insisted the plans “will not even reach the shelf”.

“Higher value” jobs are being targeted at the Medical Park in the King’s Island, a new visitor and entertainment zone on the quayside providing office and service-based employment.

As well as this, jobs are

being sought at a major new visitor attraction in Sarsfield Street, and a €30m Urban Science and Technology Park at the former Cleeves site.

The city’s three third level institutions are to come together to create a €40m city centre campus near the Opera Centre site, with a recommendation of at least 500 students from UL’s School of Architecture Moving to town.

In a bid to copper-fasten Limerick’s place as “the premier shopping destination” on the West Coast, there will be a major redevelopment of Arthur’s Quay Shopping Centre, and Cruises Street. An expanded shopping precinct would be centred around Patrick Street, O’Connell Street, William Street and Cruises Street, while Georgian Limerick could also be redeveloped.

The Opera Centre site will see an innovation hub for new businesses, and a new city square will be built at Honan’s Quay/Cruises Street.

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Team put in place to help Limerick city centre




Tom Enright, Limerick City Council; James Ryan, Centra; Liam Dwan, Brown Thomas; Fiona Ryan, RAI member, Helen ODonnell and Nigel Dugdale, both Limerick City Business Association, and Paul Foley Limerick City Council Picture: Mike Cowhey



By Nick Rabbitts
Published on 16/06/2013 08:00



A DEDICATED team is to be put in place to regenerate the city centre, based on ‘shopping centre principles’.



It comes after Limerick was selected to be part of a major new Retail Excellence Ireland initiative aimed at reviving urban towns and cities.

Limerick beat 34 other towns and cities to be part of the pilot scheme, which has been set up with the aim bringing towns and cities back to life.

As a result of this, national and local stakeholders are to come together to work on a town plan, with the overriding objective to apply shopping centre management principles.

This in turn, it is hoped, will deliver a more vibrant and engaging civic space for Limerick people to enjoy.

The aim of the plan will be to increase the frequency that people visit the city centre, to improve retail occupancy and retail investment in Limerick, and develop a database of Limerick citizens to allow for communication of what is happening.

Limerick has been awarded pilot status just weeks after the Chamber joined forces with the City Business Association.

Limerick Chamber chief executive Maria Kelly said the designation as a ‘pilot city’ will give a real boost.

“It will give city centre stakeholders a stronger voice and ultimately provides us with a roadmap which is inclusive and aimed at the betterment of our city,” she explained.

Retail Excellence Ireland chief executive David Fitzsimons added: “This is a great day for Limerick. To be chosen to be a pilot under the town and city revival initiative is clear proof that Limerick has so much to offer local citizens and visitors alike.

By working in collaboration local and national stakeholders can develop and deliver a plan to revive the civic space, improve the retail offer and ultimately reacquaint citizens with their wonderful city and town.” Alongside Limerick, Carlow Town was selected from 32 applicants which wanted to be named as a Pilot Town. A meeting is to take place with Retail Excellence Ireland towards the end of this month.

James Ryan, who operates two Centra stores in Limerick and Helen O’Donnell, chairperson of the Limerick City Business Association, are just two of the names on the new group, who will work with the Chamber and City Council.
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The square should intersect exactly at Cruises street, Patrick's street and O'Connell's street in order to create a natural embodied footfall square. There was meant to be a tunnel built (in the old plans) between Henry street and Patrick's street where All the Henry street and Ennis Road traffic conjoins with the R455 and Corbally road axis. The tunnel should still go ahead as it's part of the city inner road project. The Arthur's quay park is should house a convention centre or an Opera type building. The remaining greenfield site shall continue along the river front which goes from Shannonbridge up to the Abbey bridge. A marina should be built along the shoreline at this vicinity also.

The new city park plan should be something similar Stephens green in Dublin. but more open, green and less paved. City parks are areas of "greenfield sites" not concrete jungles .

An eye shape square seems so fitting, which will signify the centre of the city or the eye of the city. Another idea would be a heart shape square to signify the centre of the city brought back to life again. A six sided star or seven sided star are also other ideas. The idea is to bring the focal and attention back to the centre of the city. This was the ideology behind the whole project back in the beginning. The city square is probably the most important part to the entire development for this to be successful. We need to be fearless, fresh, innovative and idealistic
  • The inner ring road needs to be upgraded to a much more efficient ring road than it is currently planned as if major roads are to be closed and pedestrianised in the city centre
  • Parnell street and the Railway station needs to be revamped. It's an eyesore area where it turns off many tourists enterng the city from the station. In order for Limerick to have a good impression on tourists, the main entrances to the city need to be uplifted and regenerated
  • A pedestrian bridge to be built from the new " Sydney style Opera centre/convention centre" to the other side of the river Shannon. This will create more footfall to the new city quarter between the Sarsfield road bridge and Abbey bridge areas
  • Nicholas street to be revamped, into a new medieval Urban quarter
  • All new developments in the city centre should all be built to a high standard and density with the focus of residents living in the upper floors. A Paris style model would be a classic example of such. Any building proposed should be at least 5 to 10 story's in height.
  • All buildings should be solar powered or geared to other renewable sources of power, meaning that much of the developments proposed should at least have 80percent dependency on other forms of electricity rather than from the national electric grid. All street lights should be solar powered also.
  • All new city streets should be tree lined
  • All developments should architecturally blend and compliment with much the old architecture present.
  • Underground car parking should be utilized in all developments to free up space.
  • Cycling should be a new priority transport model for the new city quarter a long with pedestrian footfall.
  • High rise buildings should be built along the river front that house's mix used city living type development


To the final conclusion to all that I said above, the project must focus on been very environmental friendly and complementary to the natural surroundings such as the river and the area. Fruit trees and berry bushes should be planted everywhere. If this project is to work, we need to make this quarter the first of it's type in the world where it can run independently from the old grid type network city's run on. Community gardens should be built in every single residential development. Retail developments should focus on inter trade, self sufficiency and local commercial markets. This project interlocks with all of the city quarters and this is what is special about this area. The Old English town, Irish town, Georgian quarter and Riverside area. This project is the true heart of the city and this should be highlighted as such. If this is a living quarter then we must come alive or this to be living.

Furthermore it is all about creating a living quarter that is self sustaining itself as the heartbeat to the city.
The city centre quarter is the heart.
The city square is the eye.
The river is the soul of the city.

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Just to add, People like Michael Noonan has no say on this project.
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There is optimism back in Limerick, and Limerick people should be proud of that fact. The "un"Irish government has done absolutely nothing to support Limerick over the years even when times were supposedly "good"...Limerick was still on her own. Most of the developments in Limerick came from private investment and local developers. The hospitals and various government sectors here are over crowding and severely over-strained in Limerick. The RTE media do tend to spread negativity about Limerick constantly. It baffles me that people who never been to Limerick would be frightened to come here and yet never been here. Even if with the negative back droppings that you hear, the truth is the negativity that you hear in the media does not truly reflect the city at all. The negativity only reflects a very very small percentage of the city's actual image. The media only sets out to portray the negative image only and that is where it's terribly wrong and misleading. It makes you really wonder as why people would even think that their life would be in danger by coming to city they've never been too.

It is almost as if it's a conspiracy going on. Even down to a local level with the city and county council. How on Earth can it be possible to have two councils within the same county competing and squabbling over one another to get one over the other? When the two governing bodies are in the same region here with the ideology to progress the (their) region? It just makes absolutely no sense and I don't believe for one second that the people currently in power are supporting Limericks interest or have any desire to really put Limerick on the map.

Limerick city has possibly the two biggest morons in the Dail, Willie O Dea and Michael Noonan, and I don't think I am exaggerating with that. I'd imagine that the entire country will agree with me on that. I could go on and on about 100 of things to say of just how deliberate it seems to be that a lot of people are purposely trying to destroy this city.

Despite everything that Limerick has going for it. You will still see people and various groups deliberately trying to blacken the city's name and impede any sort of progress. Even the boundary issue just baffles me so much and I can’t understand why it’s just such a hot and heavy issue when it isn't really a problem in other cities like Dublin or Cork where they too have an outdated boundary as well.. Even with any complications that they might have the councils all work together and things just don't seem to run into problems in those regions, but in Limerick it seems to be huge controversy over it.

You don't hear people saying Dublin has a population of 480,000, Everyone knows Dublin has just over a million inhabitants. Just because the city boundary is 480,000 approx doesn't mean its true population remains at boundary recorded figures. You have the state and CSO giving false figures of Limerick’s city’s true population. The state government comes along basing funding on population figures that don't fit the city's population actual. This further chokes on the city's ability to manage itself and further undermines the city to function as a city.. On top of the city going into red is the city becoming a ghost town because the city is divided and managed by two councils. This is ultimately killing the heart of the city. The county council is trying to compete with the city council and vise versa. Furthermore, it blocks the city to progress as it should. If the city core dies, the rest of the city follows on eventually. Not only do the city and county council lose out, but businesses, residents and the entire region suffers as well. In the CSO figures of city and suburbs for 2011 it does not show to be accurate. It is just simply not accurate at all. Before I used to think it was just the government-anti Limerick camp putting Limerick down. There are a lot more people involved in it now. Why? Does it matter, either way it's happening. Limerick is consistently been marketed as a city below Cork, Galway and other cities...

Take Galway as an example where most of its city is within its boundary. There is little over a 1,000 outside of its boundaries which give the total city urban population of 76,000. This meaning the boundary population is just over 75,000. Limerick city population is 67,000 within the boundary and 24,000 outside of it (according to state/CSO figures).

It is far higher than that. Annacotty is a suburb NOT included in the 91,000 total population CSO figures. Annacotty is in the city's urban area. This is just one small example of people misleading figures. To be blunt-fully honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the figures of Limerick was or is miss counted in the given CSO figures as they currently stand and I am not even joking about that.

Take IDA as another example, for the last 20 years Limerick is not even on the map when it comes to investment. All investments bypass Limerick... Take Limerick regional hospital as another example. Limerick has the most over crowded hospital in the state. The hospital not only serves Limerick but the entire Midwestern region. Take unemployment as another, Limerick has one of the highest unemployment rates in the state. If this doesn't tell you that there is a sinister agenda going on, then it’s clearly evident that most people just don't want to face the truth..

I'd really like to know what is with this Anglo-Irish/British problem is with Limerick, because if anyone here knows what I am talking about will know that there is a movement in this country to purposely damage Limerick's reputation and image for a long time. I can even see it on forums and blogs where people set out to try spread negativity to keep Limerick down in the potty. It's not just the RTE/state media that's doing it. Negativity leads to more negativity. So if people want to point out something bad that happened in Limerick, wouldn't it be worth their while to point out something also positive? After all, it is the positive that progresses the city not the negative. Instead of always pointing out the negative can the people come up with solutions to make a positive instead?

Finally, I just want to thank all those involved on this thread, for posting pictures, welcoming contributions, news and updates to all that is happening in the city. You are all here doing great efforts for this city. This city is still here and it is here because of its people, who live in it and who have supported the city. Limerick people have a city to be very proud of and through all the dark times the light does shine through. In time, all your efforts will only prove this to be true and we will all see Limerick shining on top' As the saying goes you reap what you sow and I know that Limerick deserves its recognition and reward.

It is a beautiful city with so much character, dynamics, diversity and charm. I am not here to say Limerick is perfect, it isn't. Limerick has its negatives, but I do think we need to change our focus to the positives NOW and what the city has going for it.
Even with its faults and scars like any city has, Limerick too, has her story to tell. I think it's time to let Limerick and the people of Limerick tell their story now..
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Thanks for bumping up this thread Jean! I saw in the Irish Times this week that the Jurys Inn in the middle of Limerick was sold for €3 million. It's good to see interest like this in the commercial property sector of the city as it could bode well for future investments which lead to further developments. link.
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More evidence of Limerick seeing some signs of life in the city centre. link. If these properties are all re-developed it could add quite a bit of life to the area.
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