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Old August 18th, 2005, 09:37 AM   #1
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Why aren't there trucks like these outside U.S, Canada & Mexico?

I've noticed while seeing other pictures of highways outside the U.S, Canada and Mexico a lack of big 18 wheelers that make highways look good. Instead I see these small weak looking trucks carrying small trailers.

Why don't other places around the world have trucks like these on their highways?











Instead you see ugly looking trucks like these.....



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Old August 18th, 2005, 09:57 AM   #2
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There are.
Try Australia. Its full of them.
New Zealand has less but none the less they have them in numbers

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Old August 18th, 2005, 10:00 AM   #3
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We don't have those US trucks because North American roads are wider compared to Asia or Europe.

We don't need these kind of trucks in HK!

Some trucks in Japan, do you have these in US?














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Old August 18th, 2005, 12:57 PM   #4
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Australia is full of them. It is such a shame. I hate trucks, so inefficient and scary to drive next to on the highway. The drivers are aggressive bastards too.

I wish most freight was rail based.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 01:40 PM   #5
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It has to do with length-restrictions for trucks in Europe. That's why companies prefer the "flat nose" (Cabin Over Engine) because this means they can have a longer trailer. If they would use the american style truck they would already use a few meters of the maximum allowed lenght just for the nose of the truck, resulting in a shorter cargo-compartment and less transport-capacity. In the US the regulations for length are less strict, so you can have both a big truck and a big trailer at the same time.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 01:45 PM   #6
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People around the world aren't as fat as Americans and don't need to take up so much cabinspace.

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Old August 18th, 2005, 01:53 PM   #7
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Australia has loads of American trucks: those Kenworths, Macks, Freigtliners, peterbilts are everywhere and for long hauls in remote areas these things can have up to 5 trailers!
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Old August 18th, 2005, 05:09 PM   #8
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In Mexico...








The most popular in North America










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Old August 18th, 2005, 05:14 PM   #9
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one reason is that the commerce inside NAFTA is the biggest in the world.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 05:53 PM   #10
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Eh, these don't look so bad to me..



Flat-nosed trucks would probably do better on narrower roads with sharper turns than long-nosed trucks aswell..
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Old August 18th, 2005, 07:20 PM   #11
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one reason is that the commerce inside NAFTA is the biggest in the world.
And what exactly does that have to do with cab-over-engine designs being less popular in North America?
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Old August 18th, 2005, 07:25 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FM 2258
I've noticed while seeing other pictures of highways outside the U.S, Canada and Mexico a lack of big 18 wheelers that make highways look good. Instead I see these small weak looking trucks carrying small trailers.

Why don't other places around the world have trucks like these on their highways?

Instead you see ugly looking trucks like these.....
Firstly, Australasia uses the snout-nosed trucks to great extent and also in Europe there are some from Volvo and Scania, but they're a rare sight. In Europe, trucks have length restrictions which affect axle weight limits and these also differ between the UK and continental Europe. Combined with the fact that large trucks also have negotiate more crowded urban environments in Europe tell you the reasons for the difference in preferred design. Trucks are built purely for commercial purposes, with styling being a secondary issue....but the kids on here probably wouldn't understand the importance.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 07:39 PM   #13
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Ive seen a few of these trucks in the UK....but im talking less than 10 in my whole life.

There is a cement company in my town and all their cement trucks are bright pink.


Also know some guy that drives a cab around...you see it parked outside his house at night on the narrow street he lives on.

and a few on the road.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 08:38 PM   #14
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Australia has loads of American trucks: those Kenworths, Macks, Freigtliners, peterbilts are everywhere and for long hauls in remote areas these things can have up to 5 trailers!
Ah yes, Road Trains. The longest combinations in the world. The longest is 6 trailers.

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Old August 18th, 2005, 08:45 PM   #15
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Eh, these don't look so bad to me..

Flat-nosed trucks would probably do better on narrower roads with sharper turns than long-nosed trucks aswell..
Theyre just not as sexy as the big rigs.

But youre right. Theyre more practicle for Europe.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 10:56 PM   #16
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We got those in the US, those are rare...it has a RV compartment built in for people who travel a lot, and not home much.


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Old August 18th, 2005, 11:06 PM   #17
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And what exactly does that have to do with cab-over-engine designs being less popular in North America?

related to the main question: means that you probably will see larger and longer trucks in North America.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 11:47 PM   #18
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It has alot to do with geography, infrastructure and urban layout.

Like Canada and the US, Australia has road enviroments suited to big rigs. Mexico has many wide open highways and due to its possition its logical that US brands make up the bulk of vehicles. Outside the US and Canada, Australia is the most similar and suitable country for the larger US trucks. Its not by mistake that they manifacture the big American brands with right hand steerring for that market. Like Mexico, New Zealand gets these trucks aswell but more as a result of its possition ie: Australian manifactured Kenworths, Macks etc.

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Old August 19th, 2005, 04:45 AM   #19
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Quote:
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related to the main question: means that you probably will see larger and longer trucks in North America.
Longer because of the snout on the cab - which was the original poster's main concern.

Judging by the wording in that initial question, do you think the poster himself sounds any older than age 10?
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Old August 19th, 2005, 04:52 AM   #20
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Australia has loads of American trucks: those Kenworths, Macks, Freigtliners, peterbilts are everywhere and for long hauls in remote areas these things can have up to 5 trailers!
Interesting isn't it that both Mack and Freightliner are both wholly-owned subsidiaries of European companies!
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