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Old February 13th, 2010, 11:47 PM   #81
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the wadala bus terminal is a much older project than the 'iconic' tower. its been a decade in the making
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Old February 14th, 2010, 07:02 AM   #82
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What's interesting about your comment is that the PANYNJ want's to build just that, a tower above the Port Authority Bus Terminal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/25/ny...5terminal.html
i was referring to the twin towers vis-a-vis the 'iconic' tower. with a soft credit and construction market, adding more constraints in terms of bundling the bus terminal and tower into one contract would have restricted the pool.

which is what happened and thus the rebid and egg on mmrda's face.

this is all just conjecture on my part mind you and as b'boy mentions they have been sitting on the bus terminal idea for a decade regardless.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 07:31 AM   #83
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the wadala bus terminal is a much older project than the 'iconic' tower. its been a decade in the making
I have been seeing on MMRDA's website past 4-5 years and still nothing's happening in "their plans".
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Old February 15th, 2010, 06:52 AM   #84
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i was referring to the twin towers vis-a-vis the 'iconic' tower. with a soft credit and construction market, adding more constraints in terms of bundling the bus terminal and tower into one contract would have restricted the pool.

which is what happened and thus the rebid and egg on mmrda's face.

this is all just conjecture on my part mind you and as b'boy mentions they have been sitting on the bus terminal idea for a decade regardless.
Oh I know what you were referring to.

I just found it interesting that the mentioned PANYNJ was trying to build something like this itself. Even their plans to this have been delayed.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 06:38 PM   #85
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Oh I know what you were referring to.

I just found it interesting that the mentioned PANYNJ was trying to build something like this itself. Even their plans to this have been delayed.
true that. firstly the authority is busy with the freedom tower mess. secondly the market is soft in ny and finally they will need to find some credit source for real estate not the best of times for that in ny.
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http://www.loksatta.com/index.php?op...01-20&Itemid=3

- jist, MMRDA delays the Iconic tower for the near future, but keen on persisting with the project and its by no means dropped all the way


(my personal thoughts) I think mmrda want to build it. Sooner or later when things improve they will build it. Dont think they will let anything else come up on the land.
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Old March 15th, 2010, 06:11 AM   #87
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Nope. When you have things planned and re planned by someone like MMRDA, you know it that the project is not seeing the light of the day.
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Old March 15th, 2010, 03:56 PM   #88
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Its not gonna happen, its all hype from MMRDA.
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Old March 15th, 2010, 03:57 PM   #89
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maybe they should just a 250m building and keep things simple
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Old March 15th, 2010, 04:00 PM   #90
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this just out

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Not 101-storey tower but FSI to touch sky

Part of Wadala plot where tower was planned to be offered to pvt developer; can build 80 storeys

Unusually high Floor Space Index (FSI) in the commercial districts of Bandra Kurla Complex and Nariman Point is nothing new. But the MMRDA’s offer of an FSI of 19.8 to private developers on a plot of 25,000 square metres — part of the 14 hectares in Wadala where the agency had planned an iconic 101-storey tower— is an unprecedented high.

Plans for the MMRDA-owned iconic tower have now been shelved. It has been decided that part of the land will be leased to a private developer, who can use the FSI offer to build a tower over 80 storeys high.

The tower plan, which had come under criticism from some quarters that it showed the skewed priorities of the planning agency, would have generated a steady revenue of Rs 1,800 crore every year for the government body.

But under the new plan, the MMRDA would get a one-time sum of around Rs 2,500 crore at the rate of Rs 4,647 per sq ft of built-up area charged to the developer. The agency will start sale of bid documents on Monday.

The 46-hectare Wadala Truck Terminal land, for which MMRDA is the planning agency, has a global FSI of 4 wherein FSI from open, unused plots can be allotted as additional FSI to a plot under development.

MMRDA officials state that the change in pattern was forced by feeble response from developers when the agency started its plan to construct the 101-storey tower. In mid 2008, the agency had called for pre-qualification bids from developers interested in developing the tower and the Inter-state bus terminal at Wadala on a design, build, own, operate and transfer (DBOOT) basis.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/no...ch-sky/590901/
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Old March 16th, 2010, 06:17 AM   #91
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Is their even a rendering?
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Old March 16th, 2010, 12:31 PM   #92
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Nope

And damn, the MMRDA suck!
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Old March 16th, 2010, 03:47 PM   #93
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LOL, I thought as much and I was right!.....no 100 floor tower.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #94
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LOL, I thought as much and I was right!.....no 100 floor tower.
80 floors is a good compromise.....


IMO with such a high fsi this can still be a good commerical/residential supertall.

still think location for this project is good.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 05:00 PM   #95
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With an FSI of over 19 that means we can finally have a superfat supertall!
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Old March 17th, 2010, 03:25 PM   #96
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Thats true, 80 floors is better than nothing & still counts as a supertall.

Mumbai has buildings in the 50-60 floor range so 70-80 floors is the way fwd before 100+ floors are built.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #97
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more than half a dozen buildings between 80 and 120 floors are already u/c
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Old March 17th, 2010, 05:52 PM   #98
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I dont know where to post this.....but just wanted to ask guys I need small favor. I m updating the article on wikipedia.org for Tallest building in India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...dings_in_India. So please if able to go and varify the details updated/added on that page are correct and if not let me know or if u want to do it urself u can edit....but make sure while editing give some references....
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Old March 19th, 2010, 05:51 PM   #99
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more than half a dozen buildings between 80 and 120 floors are already u/c
Please name them as I cant remember them.....sorry.

Perhaps it will refresh my memory.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #100
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Please name them as I cant remember them.....sorry.

Perhaps it will refresh my memory.
I dont know about 120 flr but here is the consolidated list although its not complete

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...dings_in_India

off course u can contribute to it with proper reference.
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