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Old September 30th, 2016, 02:50 PM   #1
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2022 Commonwealth Games

So finally the Second City has decided to demonstrate its ambition with a bid for the Commonwealth Games. While it is not the Olympic Games, the prospects of us ever having these games is slim to none...partly because it favours Alpha cities, cost and the proximity to Birmingham.

The Commonwealth Games is an excellent opportunity for the city to showcase itself to a significant portion of the world.

The CWG will be a catalyst for growth in the city, speeding up infrastructure projects, bringing visitors and their money as well as wipe the slate clean on the poor performance of Birmingham City Council.

Of course, all this is subject to the city being successful.

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Birmingham bids for Commonwealth Games 2026
00:01, 30 SEP 2016 UPDATED 10:00, 30 SEP 2016
BY NEIL ELKES


The city has lined up a bid which it claims will not only raise Birmingham’s global profile but give a £390 million boost to the city’s economy and create jobs.

Birmingham is going for gold with a bid to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games and bring athletes and competitors from 71 countries to the city.

After months of deliberation, the city has lined up a bid which it claims will not only raise Birmingham’s global profile but give a £390 million boost to the city’s economy, creating jobs and bringing in thousands of visitors.

The city already boasts international-class sporting venues such as the Alexander Stadium, Edgbaston cricket ground, the Priory Tennis Club and Villa Park, plus the NEC and ICC exhibition halls and Genting and Barclaycard arenas.

More could be built as plans take shape.

Now, city leaders want the people of Birmingham to back the bid – and help bring the Games to Brum.

The announcement follows a long-running Birmingham Mail campaign to encourage a city bid.

Also considering bids for the Games are Liverpool, Edmonton in Canada, Auckland in New Zealand and Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea.

But Birmingham has the influential backing of UK Athletics chief Niels de Vos - who is currently organising next years World Athletics Championships in London.

He said: “Birmingham has the perfect blend of existing facilities, fantastic location, supportive local authority and a sport mad local population - all the key ingredients essential to hosting a successful multi sport Games.

" But perhaps what marks out the Birmingham bid is the unparalleled track record the city has in staging major sporting events - making it 'Games Ready' in a way that I doubt any other bidder could claim to be.”

Council deputy leader Ian Ward, responsible for sport, said Birmingham is the ideal host, especially as it has residents from all 71 Commonwealth countries settled here.

He said: “We’re calling on the entire region to get behind this bid. The economic benefit, not to mention the excitement and legacy that such an immense sporting event would have on this area, is massive.

"It is not just about the economic case, important though that is,” said Ian. “There will be the excitement, a feelgood factor and a legacy for sport in the city.”

Birmingham already has major plans for transport between now and 2026, not least through the HS2 rail link and more Midlands Metro lines.

An athletes village could later be used to create a new housing estate.

Backing the bid with the city council are regional development agencies Greater Birmingham and Solihull Local Enterprise Partnership (GBSLEP), the Midlands Engine and the West Midlands Combined Authority.

It is hoped that venues in neighbouring boroughs, such as Coventry’s Ricoh Arena or The Hawthorns could also stage events.

GBSLEP interim chairman Steve Hollis said: “Greater Birmingham is perfectly poised to welcome the thousands of sports fans and athletes for the Commonwealth Games in 2026.

“We are one of the most connected regions in the world with unrivalled transport links, accommodation, world-class venues and entertainment. Unlike other cities considering bidding, we already have significant infrastructure in place, and HS2 is set to be operational from 2026.

“Working collaboratively across the public and private sector has been the cornerstone of our economic success – and it’s that spirit which gives us a great chance of bringing the Games to Birmingham.”

Candidate cities must notify of their intention to bid by March 2018, with the winning city being unveiled in November 2019.

A Commonwealth Games bid organising committee will be set up to investigate venues, events and funding, and draw up the bid.

Birmingham’s bid will stress its track record of hosting major events including the Ashes at Edgbaston, Rugby World Cup at Villa Park, Diamond League athletics at the Alexander Stadium, the Aegon Classic tennis championships at the Edgbaston Priory Club, the All England Open Badminton Championships at the Barclaycard Arena and the UCI BMX Championships at Perry Park.

The city has just announced Velo Birmingham, a 100-mile cycle event in the New Year. In 2017 Birmingham will also host the Birmingham International Marathon, while the city also welcomes fixtures of the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 and the World Indoor Athletics Championships in 2018.

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Old September 30th, 2016, 05:00 PM   #2
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So would the main arena be based at an upgraded Alexander Stadium or would a new stadium be built eleswhere? Counting on HS2 being up and running by 2026 (although certainly no guarantee on this timescale), the Alexander Stadium seems to be on the wrong side of the city to take full advantage of this infrastructure. In fact the transport infrastructure around Alexander Stadium is not very good at all.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 05:26 PM   #3
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A good excuse to commit to redeveloping Molineux, IMO.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 05:28 PM   #4
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So would the main arena be based at an upgraded Alexander Stadium or would a new stadium be built eleswhere? Counting on HS2 being up and running by 2026 (although certainly no guarantee on this timescale), the Alexander Stadium seems to be on the wrong side of the city to take full advantage of this infrastructure. In fact the transport infrastructure around Alexander Stadium is not very good at all.
I think it's too early to say. I would like to see the stadium built at the Alex. While infrastructure is not great around there, there is opportunities for improvement. The A34 is easily upgradable for the Metro. Perry Barr has a rail station, frequent buses operate between Birmingham and Walsall.

The BCU site presents an opportunity for development of an athlete's village and the area needs drastic improvement. This is the ideal spot of investment.

I am not a favour of lumping everything under one roof like the 1992 Olympic bid. We need to distribute.

I do not see much investment being any further south of Edgbaston so I think the south of the city will be the loser.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 06:05 PM   #5
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Would we need a velodrome or would they just use Derby?
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Old September 30th, 2016, 06:16 PM   #6
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Would this not be Blues opportunity to redevelop? Close to the City Centre, train station could be incorporated into the design. Athletes Village could be around the Digbeth Area, redevelopment of Typhoo Wharf etc? New Tram could also serve this area, if we needed a velodrome then surely we could find room in and around the area.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 07:15 PM   #7
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New stadium - Perry Barr/NEC/Saltley (or the football clubs bid to help build a new stadium)
Velodrome - One of the CA boroughs - Sandwell?
Pool - Another borough - Wolverhampton?
Athletes Village - Perry Barr/Walsall - linked by new tram line
Everything else - NEC/NIA/Villa Park/Edgbaston/Hawthorns/Molyneux

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Old September 30th, 2016, 07:57 PM   #8
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So would the main arena be based at an upgraded Alexander Stadium or would a new stadium be built eleswhere? Counting on HS2 being up and running by 2026 (although certainly no guarantee on this timescale), the Alexander Stadium seems to be on the wrong side of the city to take full advantage of this infrastructure. In fact the transport infrastructure around Alexander Stadium is not very good at all.

I do hope this is a serious bid with an impressive NEW stadium and NOT a BCC bid done on the cheap with an upgraded Alexander stadium... Despite all the constant hype, I find the Alex really unimpressive and absolutely not a good selling point for the city. If we want to create a spectacular games and a legacy of good sporting venues following the games, we at least need a "World class" stadium to show to the world.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 08:27 PM   #9
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I also would rather not see the Alex used, its really not that impressive. This could really be our one and only chance to redevelop the entire east of Birmingham. I think we have a good chance of winning this as well. So lets go hard or go home. Something like this would do nicely. And all of the Athletes Village Apartments could just be converted into residential afterwards, and the stadium could hopefully go to Blues. Don't know how the funding works for these kinds of things though, but its exciting nonetheless.



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Well Done BCC for seeing the vision and going for the bid. I wish you well
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Old September 30th, 2016, 09:57 PM   #11
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A re developed Alex stadium, a new BCFC ground, veledrome at NEC area, and a sports arena West Birmingham/West Brom area. Definitely something for each of the less well of parts of the City. And maybe new housing stock built in the JQ area, be ideal with the Metro and Mainline links.
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 02:37 PM   #12
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I have re-posted this, now in the correct thread.

I think there are 3 good options.

Option 1, Construction of a brand new 40,000 plus seater stadium within the city centre. An Ideal location would be Southside and future legacy could be adapted as new home for Birmingham City. The cost of City of Manchester Stadium was 112 million so the cost would be similar to this.

Option 2, Increase the capacity of Alexandra Stadium from 12,800 to 40,000. Future legacy to underpin the stadiums position as the UK’s home of athletics. Alexander Stadium has recently undergone a £12.5 million expansion and refurbishment, including the building of a 5,000 seater stand opposite the current main stand. The estimated cost to increase the capacity to 40,000 would be around 40 million.

Option 3, Adapt Edgbaston Stadium as a temporary athletics stadium. Future legacy to create the biggest UK cricket ground and home for Warwickshire County Cricket Club plus hosting future ICC tournaments and England Internationals. The pavilion end on the south side of the ground was completely redeveloped between 2010 and 2011 at a cost of £32 million. The estimated cost to increase the capacity to 40,000 and add a temporary track would be around 32 million.

So having reviewed all the options my personal preference would be Option 3 because of the following;-.

1. The location of the Edgbaston Stadium in my opinion is the most beautiful part of Birmingham and would give only positive vibes about the city.
2. Better transport links are already planned including possible metro extension, opening of the camp hill line and new station at Mosely.
3. The close proximity to possible 3,500 bedroom athletes village at The Vale and additional halls locally in Selly Oak.
4. Available land around the ground and next to Cannon Hill Park where a Velodrome and any other venues required could be constructed.
5. Cheapest cost and best future legacy.

Finally regarding the Aquatics Centre. I’m sure the new pool at the University of Birmingham could be developed to increase seating capacity and add a diving pool at a fraction of the cost to construct another new pool from scratch.

The whole project of hosting the games and providing high quality facilities can be very affordable when you put your mind to it.
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I'd rather Option 1; a new central athletics stadium converted for football afterwards for BCFC. Preferably on the industrial wasteland on the Eastside somewhere between Moor Street/HS2 and St Andrews. The outfield at Edgaston is far too large to be converted into a temporary atheltics stadium. As for athletics legacy I think the Olympic Stadium will mop up all major national events from now on so not sure there will be need for a second major atheltics venue in the UK.
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 03:02 PM   #14
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Nobody has mentioned Edgbaston Reservoir. We could have the equatics centre and veledrome there. Icknield port loop is next to it also so could be used for the athletes village
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Finally regarding the Aquatics Centre. I’m sure the new pool at the University of Birmingham could be developed to increase seating capacity and add a diving pool at a fraction of the cost to construct another new pool from scratch.
It doesn't have enough lanes for a start. The whole building would need to be extended because there isn't enough room for everything, let alone the amount of seating we would require. Best to go for a new purpose built facility.
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I also would rather not see the Alex used, its really not that impressive. This could really be our one and only chance to redevelop the entire east of Birmingham. I think we have a good chance of winning this as well. So lets go hard or go home. Something like this would do nicely. And all of the Athletes Village Apartments could just be converted into residential afterwards, and the stadium could hopefully go to Blues. Don't know how the funding works for these kinds of things though, but its exciting nonetheless.
The area you have identified there is the existing Bordesley Park regeneration area, but with an extra band of land added at the south, to bring it down to Bordesley Green Road. The Eastside Metro extension to the airport would run along there, and with Adderley Park station to the north it would be very well served by public transport.

An action plan for the area was produced last year, when there were aspirations for 3,000 jobs on the site, plus housing, but I don't know how far the council has got with it. I imagine it would be quite difficult to get the initial leverage on a site like this, and there would be a hefty upfront cost to clean up contaminated land.

This is the site on which BCFC put forward its plans in 2005 for a new stadium at the heart of a "Sports Village" with facilities aimed at the local community. This was in the era of the Gold brothers and Karren Brady, and of course Blues were in the Premier League at that time.

The area covered by their plan was even larger than the one in your post, extending over the railway line. An outline design was commissioned from HOK International for the "City of Birmingham Stadium" which would have had a 55,000 capacity for football. It would have had not only a retractable roof but also a retractable pitch, allowing it to stage various sports all-year round. Interestingly, it was suggested that it could form the basis of a future Commonwealth Games bid.

The development would have included housing and a leisure element which crucially included a casino run by Las Vegas Sands. This must have been during one of the more bizarre moments of the New Labour era, when it seemed the only acceptable way of funding urban regeneration was through building casinos. Anyway, this one was in competition with the NEC, which explains why the whole thing disappeared in a puff of smoke.

Even so, the brochure still looks impressive in its scale and ambition. I don't know how something like this would be funded, but considering that something has to be done with the area anyway, maybe there is scope for drawing together a partnership of commercial interests to deliver something along these lines.
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I think the Alex Stadium is perfect for it - the running track is the best in the country apparently. By adding new stands to the back straight one wrapping around the track wouldn't mean doing it on the cheap it would enable us to make a proper statement like the Baku Arena or Allianz Arena by illuminating the outside or something similar. * Edit - maybe for keeping the venue in use offer it to a top flight rugby team to relocate to a la Wasps alternating games with a new combined Moseley Brum club?
Then we could build the Village on the old UCE site which could be then turned into apartments.
The Wheels Area could be developed into a new Velodrome next to a relocated Adderley Park station.
Aquatics Centre should be the only CG venue in Smithfield.
Someone mentioned the Lickey Hills as the Mountain Bike venue - great call!
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 07:40 PM   #18
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Nobody has mentioned Edgbaston Reservoir. We could have the equatics centre and veledrome there. Icknield port loop is next to it also so could be used for the athletes village
I did before on another thread. It's not big enough for competition rowing and rowing isn't a Commonwealth sport anyway.
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I did before on another thread. It's not big enough for competition rowing and rowing isn't a Commonwealth sport anyway.
I wasn't really thinking about using it, just that it would be a nice location for some of the venues. It could be used for the triathlon.
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The development would have included housing and a leisure element which crucially included a casino run by Las Vegas Sands. This must have been during one of the more bizarre moments of the New Labour era, when it seemed the only acceptable way of funding urban regeneration was through building casinos. Anyway, this one was in competition with the NEC, which explains why the whole thing disappeared in a puff of smoke.
It actually fell away because Brown scrapped super Casinos shortly after Manchester won the bid in 2008.

NEC is slightly weird as it is the only one that actually went ahead in the whole country from memory.
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