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Old October 15th, 2017, 09:44 PM   #1
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SIBIU | Historic Center Rehabilitation

The historic center of Sibiu, surrounded today partly by the old exterior wall of defense, is a set of medieval to Art Deco architecture with an area of ​​almost 80 hectares with a total of 1,050 buildings.
The historic center is divided into the Upper Town (Orașul de Sus), traditionally the area prefered by the upper classes, bourgeois, and the Lower Town (Orașul de Jos), traditionally the manufacturing area and inhabited mostly by the lower classes.
Sibiu old fortified city is one of the largest in Central and Eastern Europe, both in scope and as built volume and richness of forms. During the 16th - 18th centuries was often compared with Vienna. There are similarities on the architectural plan, accentuated by incorporation of Transylvania in the Habsburg Empire.
The city was founded on the site of an older settlement, probably Slavonic (present day Piața Aurarilor area), after the middle of the 12th century by Saxon colonists from the Rhine-Moselle territory. The first mention of the city is made ​​in 1191 under the name Cibinium (only Upper Town) in an ecclesiastical document from the Vatican. But there are mentions of the name Villa Cibiniensi (1292 - Lower Town) and Villa Hermani in 1223, sub-city border belonging to Cibinium.
In 1241 was attacked and partly destroyed by the Mongol hordes. First attested form of Hermannstadt dates from 1366, the same year is considered by most historians to have been declared ''city'', though more recent archive researches indicate the year 1326.
In the 14th century, it was already an important trade center. In 1376 the craftsmen were divided in 19 guilds. Sibiu became the most important ethnic German city among the seven cities that gave Transylvania its German language name of Siebenbürgen, and it was home to the Universitas Saxorum, the Assembly of Germans in Transylvania.
Starting with mid 18th century, the city became an important center for the romanian community north of the Carpathyans.
The city was Capital of Transylvania between 1692-1791 and 1849-1865.

The city around 1650, by Radu Oltean
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Evolution of fortified areas
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Present day situation (2012 aerial image);
Orange line - fortified city boundary (demolished bastions not represented)
Yellow lines - demolished area during 1980s by communist regime
Red dots - former city gates
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First, a retrospective of buildings renovated in the Upper Town between Summer 2015-2017.
I will post more in the next days, the area i managed to cover was only between Astra Park and Large, Small Squares, time & weather didn't help either...

Piata Mare 7, renovated 2005-06, problems with the roof and facade (infiltrations), renovated again this summer.
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Strada Avram Iancu 4
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Piata Mica 25, Goldsmiths Guild House, renovated during the past 2 years, works finished earlier this summer, some of the City Hall offices moved here.
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Piata Mica 22, renovation stopped on the facade, a fresco was discoverred
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Piata Mica 31, the First Town Hall documented 1324, renovated mid 2000s and this summer - colour changed (first floor)
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Piata Mica 6, medieval house with facade altered in 1928, renovated earlier this year
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Strada Mitropoliei 5
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Strada Mitropoliei 23
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Strada Mitropoliei 25
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Strada Mitropoliei 21
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Strada Mitropoliei 19
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Strada Mitropoliei 12
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Strada Xenopol, the back side of Brukenthal Palace Museum second courtyard, renovated this summer, also renovated the narrow passage towards Mitropoliei St, known as Ball's Lane.
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Strada Nicolae Balcescu 8
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Strada Nicolae Balcescu 20, 18
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Strada Nicolae Balcescu 26
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Strada Nicolae Balcescu 28
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Strada Nicolae Balcescu 30
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Strada Nicolae Balcescu 43
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Strada Nicolae Balcescu 47
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Old October 15th, 2017, 11:06 PM   #3
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Strada Ioan Lupas 16 (pink one), and neighbouring house (yellow) that has the adress on Tribunei.

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Strada Tribunei 18, Möss house/building

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Strada Tribunei 20

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Strada Tribunei 25

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Strada Tribunei 27

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Strada Tribunei 31

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Strada Tribunei 26

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Strada Tribunei 28

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Strada Xenopol 3-5

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Old October 23rd, 2017, 09:43 PM   #4
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Papiu Ilarian Street will be completely upgraded. The costs are almost 700,000 lei

One of the projects on the agenda of the Local Council meeting this month concerns the modernization of Papiu Ilarian Street. The street is short, but it is important because of its location in the historic center.
The project includes the rearranging of the roadway and sidewalks by stone plating. Also, will be installed the pipeline for the metro wiring, create a more efficient drainage system and modernize public lighting.
As a result of this investment estimated at 670,000 lei, Papiu Ilarian Street will integrate in the rest of the streets in the historical center of Sibiu.
Work will be done next year.

https://www.oradesibiu.ro/2017/10/23...e-700-000-lei/
http://www.sibiu.ro/index.php/primaria/comunicat/5099

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Other Upper Town area renovations made in the past 2 years...

Piata Mare 7, this time during daytime
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Strada General Gheorghe Magheru 4, corner with Piata Mare, maintenance of stone pillars and other stone elements around the portal
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Strada General Gheorghe Magheru 5
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Piata Friedrich von Schiller 2-4 and Strada Timotei Popovici 9 (joined with No 4 - yellow house)
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Strada Gheorghe Lazar 4
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Strada Gheorghe Lazar 3, some interventions here are not right, plus already infiltrations, thumb down...
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Strada Gheorghe Lazar 5, again a thumb down for interventions on windows and ground floor
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Strada Postei 1, thumb down for that tile & gate
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Strada Centumvirilor 2, building will be transformed into a hotel, that roof speaks for itself...thumb down
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Strada Mitropoliei 13, House with Caryatids
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Strada Centumvirilor 2, building will be transformed into a hotel, that roof speaks for itself...thumb down
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In general reabilitarile de la Sibiu sunt destul de bine facute. Insa nu imi vine sa cred ca au modificat astfel acoperisul chiar langa Muzeul de istorie al orasului si pe una din cele mai frumoase strazi. Acel acoperis arata oribil + tigla industriala pusa (in loc de tigla traditionala).
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Old October 25th, 2017, 11:16 PM   #7
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You're telling me ?!

Plus ca au schimbat acei ''ochi'' cu lucarne masive. Nu e doar langa Vechea Primarie acum Muzeul de Istorie, e si langa zidul orasului - curtina III, ambele monumente clasa A

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You're telling me ?!

Plus ca au schimbat acei ''ochi'' cu lucarne masive. Nu e doar langa Vechea Primarie acum Muzeul de Istorie, e si langa zidul orasului - curtina III, ambele monumente clasa A

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Am depus o plangere la viceprimarul Razvan Pop, care a fost si director la cultura in Judetul Sibiu. Cred ca de fiecare data cand vedem ceva care nu e ok, trebuie sa luam atitudine, chit ca nu reusim de fiecare data, dar daca nu reactionam, riscam ca astfel de cazuri sa se repete.
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Old October 26th, 2017, 06:21 PM   #9
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Frumos, multumim !

Il cunosc, e un personaj controversat...& no more comments about that.

Am apelat la el chiar recent, in iarna, practic am lasat un mail pe un blog personal al dansului, altii comm publice, m-a mirat ca s-a facut ceva. Si s-a ajuns destul de departe se pare. Era legat de teatrul din Oravita, vehiculat peste tot ca cel mai vechi din tara, de la Wikipedia, la site-ul orasului, placute puse de Cons. Judetean, pana la presa centrala. Practic informatia respectiva eronata, creata se pare din pur orgoliu local fara, evident, o documentare serioasa, crea un deserviciu culturii si premierelor Romaniei.

La Cultura mai nou este Valentin Delca http://www.tribuna.ro/stiri/evenimen...ve-129969.html

PS Cat timp o cladire nu este Monument istoric, se pare ca nu conteaza prea mult situarea intr-o zona de protectie sau raza unui monum. istoric, se pot face marlanii destule. Zilele ce urmeaza o sa incep prezentarea cu ce s-a facut in Orasul de Jos, sa vezi acolo cazuri penale. Vreo 2 au creat discutii in presa si retele socializare destul de aprinse. Obtii autorizatie pt. inlocuire invelitoare, si demolezi absolut tot, reconstruiesti exact cum era dar cu 1m mai inalt + mansardare.

Have fun with these two cases

Ambele acum arata ok, o sa vin cu poze, dar atunci au starnit ceva discutii...Primul caz ce e drept, era o ruina parasita din anii '90, autorizatia nu era ok. Al doilea caz arata acum chiar foarte bine, au facut treaba buna, sa zicem, dar nu stiu ce autorizatii aveau.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=ro&lat=45...emolata-ilegal
Situatie actuala http://www.turism.sibiu.ro/index.php/ro/foto/934

http://wikimapia.org/#lang=ro&lat=45...Casa-Groisbeck
Situatie actuala http://www.turism.sibiu.ro/index.php/ro/foto/738
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Nu il cunosc pe viceprimar, insa a raspuns imediat, si mi-a spus ca primaria s-a auto sesizat, au chemat politia si va fi caz penal. A promis ca ma tine la curent cu ce se va intampla.
In Oravita si eu citisem faptul ca se afirma ca teatrul e cel mai vechi din tara (banuesc ca este vorba despre teatrul Mihai Eminescu/teatrul vechi) si m-am mirat. Si a intervenit viceprimarul in acest caz?
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Daca e asa ma bucura, inca o data multumesc Si am incredere in el, dupa chestia cu Oravita din iarna, trust has been restored !

Treaba cu Oravita, poveste lunga & tampita, film cu prosti
Mi-am luat si ban pe Wikipedia vreo 2 ani pt. ca am indraznit sa editez si contrazic (din cel mai vechi teatru din tara, in cel mai vechi din Banat, posibil, avem si Aradul...). Acum ban-ul e ridicat. Pe scurt, ma tot certam cu unul care a ajuns destul de sus pe diferite site-uri, activa mai ales pe Banat, si rescria istoria cum ii convenea. Am intervenit cu link-uri online de la biblioteci din Berlin, Vienna, si pe unde am gasit....Nimic nu conta, decat un ''studiu'' scris de nu stiu ce istoric local, care inclusiv jignea Sibiul la greu , cum ca teatrele din Sb erau cocioabe, ca am avut teatru doar din 1865 (atunci preluat de oras), etc etc. Si cocioaba sa fi fost, vorbim de premiera, nu lux Cel din Oravita e cu siguranta cel mai vechi pastrat !
Din fericire am fost mai multi care am contrazis aberatiile unora. Are Sibiul vreo 30 de premiere, daca vrea Oravita ii facem cadou vreo 10 dar ...nu e realitate si fapt istoric !
Vezi aici jos la comentarii, plangerea facuta (inca una, nu sunt Alexandra C ), acolo vad ca sunt destule link-uri ce satisfac curiozitatea.http://www.razvanpop.ro/2011/12/18/i...ostru-sibiu-9/

Pe scurt, raspuns la intrebarea ta, da, s-a rezolvat, si cu siguranta datorita lui R. Pop, undeva la 2 luni dupa am vazut aberatiile sterse. Am contactat si Muzeul Brukenthal, au spus ca stiu si...au cam dat din umeri.

O sa urmaresc cazul Centumvirilor 2, si revin cu update-uri.
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Piata Mica 22, the fresco remnants discovered during the 2016-17 renovations. Most probably the fresco dates from the 17th century. The building preserves in a vaulted room on the ground floor other well preserved frescoes dated 1631.
More details here http://patrimoniu.sibiu.ro/cladiri_en/piata_mica/107

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Is it just me, or that hand looks like holding a large banana
Probably exotic stuff was already in fashion during the Renaissance.
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Primăria restaurează zidul Cetății și cele trei turnuri de apărare

City Hall restores the Wall of the Citadel and the three defense towers

The Wall on the Corneliu Coposu Boulevard, as well as the three defense towers, will be restored by the Sibiu City Hall. Now the municipality's representatives are looking for the right firms to handle the works.
These must be certified by the National Union of Historic Monument Restorers and certified by the Ministry of Culture.
The restorers will undo and replace the degraded masonry. The restoration will be done with medieval mortar.
The façade will be restored in compliance with the materials required by the rules and legislation in force concerning the restoration of historical monuments.
The existing wall will be treated with anti-salt solutions and will be cleaned by brushing.
The degradations in the stone masonry will also be restored, just like the tile coverings.
In the area of the city wall on Coposu Boulevard, the shrubs will be cut three meters from the wall and the vegetation grown here will be removed.

https://www.oradesibiu.ro/2017/11/08...ri-de-aparare/

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Update on Strada Mitropoliei 13, House with Caryatids.
They moved quite quickly, about 2-3 weeks in total.

For now a photo from Facebook, Alt-Hermannstadt in Ansichtskarten, Fotos, Gemälden und Grafiken

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Podul Minciunilor intră în curând în reparații. Ultimele au fost acum 11 ani

Liars Bridge (Bridge of Lies) will be soon under repairs. Last one's were 11 years ago

In October 2006, a German firm rehabilitated the Bridge of Lies in Sibiu. Then the cast iron from which the railing was made was cleaned with dry ice and then protected with a layer of carbon snow.

https://www.oradesibiu.ro/2017/11/21...ele-reparatii/

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Piațetă cu standuri pentru comercianții hand-made în Piața Mică

A bit of old news, featured in local papers about a month ago, again today.

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Comercianții de produse hand-made vor avea căsuțe noi în Piața Mică, unde să își vândă produsele. Primăria scoate la licitație 20 de astfel de căsuțe ce vor fi puse la dispoziția comecianților din martie 2018.
Plaza with stands for handmade traders in the Small Square

Hand-made merchants will have new stands in the Small Square, where to sell their products. The City Hall auctioned 20 such stands to be made available to traders in March 2018.
The auction will be held in February next year and will be a public one. Stands will be leased to merchants who will sell hand-made products, handicrafts, antiques, paintings, and small-scale views.
The stands will be leased for two years.

https://www.oradesibiu.ro/2017/11/27...in-piata-mica/

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