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Old October 15th, 2015, 03:36 PM   #21
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Another render from Manchester Confidential:

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Old October 15th, 2015, 03:54 PM   #22
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Welcome to the city centre from a main gateway route....
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Old October 15th, 2015, 05:03 PM   #23
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Given it's important and prominent location - it's a bit disappointing, although the scale and mass at least seem appropriate.

What is unforgivable though is the blank wall facing the city. A good developer should imagine him/herself living there or better still considering a purchase or rental within the scheme.
If you were going to spend the money to live in the city centre would you rather look out of your window at Beetham and Deansgate or Hulme? Which view would attract a premium?

I also don't like the street level interaction or lack of.
As others have said, the city planners should be aiming to push out the boundaries of what is considered the city centre proper. This site currently is not.....but could easily be in the context of the wider Gt Jackson St framework.

In order to do that the proposed surrounding wall needs to be taken away and a prominent aspect for retail or leisure opened up onto Deansgate. This would have the added effect of providing a 'gateway' link into the future Gt J St scheme.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 05:05 PM   #24
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Thought the blank side reminded me of something:

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Old October 15th, 2015, 06:03 PM   #25
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What is unforgivable though is the blank wall facing the city.
Perhaps the plot next to it is ear-marked for something ??
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Old October 15th, 2015, 06:11 PM   #26
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The blank wall completely ruins anything otherwise good about this building.

The ManCon render surely will make those with positive views about this change their mind?
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Old October 16th, 2015, 12:02 AM   #27
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Oh my goodness, that blank wall is hideous. Pretty flabbergasted something like that would even enter a developer's mind let alone be approved.....
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Old October 16th, 2015, 12:29 AM   #28
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Actually I like the blank wall better than the sides with windows - at least if it is that brown colour of the second render. Overall this doesn't look great though I must say.
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Old October 16th, 2015, 02:49 AM   #29
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Click on the link and leave your views. We all have a say in the proposal.
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Old October 16th, 2015, 01:17 PM   #30
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I like the brick and the fenestration (on the elevations that have windows). I also like the scale and massing.

I don't like the bland, recangular shape and think the building could really benefit from something slightly more interesting in terms of the roof line - stepping uptowards Beetham, prehaps. I also don't like the blank facade, but if that vent-like pattern from the top was extended down the whole elevation (and assuming there are narrow windows in the vent), i think that would look quite striking.
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Old October 18th, 2015, 02:03 AM   #31
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This gives you an idea as to what it may look like. Took a while to get the height correct (may still be out slightly). Kinda compliment each other, certainly with colour palette.

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Old October 18th, 2015, 07:13 PM   #32
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Not too bad. And don't forget that the second building of Norton Court proposal is 14 floors, so should be as tall as Deansgate South? Exciting times ahead.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 04:00 PM   #33
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Deansgate South Apartments, Chester Road | 13 floors

Think this is a Renaker?

Planning app in.

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110730/FO/2015/C1 | Erection of a 13-storey building (plus basement level) comprising 53no. one and two bedroom apartments (Use Class C3), a commercial unit (Use Classes A1/ A2/ A3/ A4/ B1/D1), associated car parking, landscaping and vehicular and pedestrian access. | Land At Chester Road(A56)/ Bridgewater Viaduct Manchester M3 4LB
Planning app: http://pa.manchester.gov.uk/online-a...=NYZGOLBC6K000

D&A (loads in .pdf): http://www.publicaccess.manchester.g...0-dsx-0001.pdf

Ombler Iwanowski architects.

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This would be so so good if it wasn't for that akjdhakjsdas blank wall!!!
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Old December 16th, 2015, 04:13 PM   #34
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We already have a thread for this Ed.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1858701

Least they've done something with the blank wall by adding some windows. Still not impress with it though. Not sure if its Renaker either. Think its another developer. Renakers' Chester Road development/proposal is on the opposite side.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 04:14 PM   #35
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No, not a Renaker one, Knott Mill Securities Ltd.

Cheers for posting the links.

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In order to avoid overlooking of Deansgate Quay and
to prevent part wall issues apartment windows have
been avoided in the ‘gable’ end at the north-east of
the site, providing an opportunity to create a dramatic
composition
of brickwork planes with vertical slots
celebrating the top of the building.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 04:15 PM   #36
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Planning Application

Planning app: http://pa.manchester.gov.uk/online-a...=NYZGOLBC6K000

D&A (loads in .pdf): http://www.publicaccess.manchester.g...0-dsx-0001.pdf

Ombler Iwanowski architects.

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Facade:



Least they've done something with the blank wall by adding some windows. Still not impress with it though.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 04:25 PM   #37
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Thanks guys.

B4mmy could you merge the two threads please?
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Old December 16th, 2015, 10:03 PM   #38
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I like it. Nice and simple.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 10:25 PM   #39
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If they're going for a 'brick' clad finish, then it really should be red brick shouldn't it? Looking at the neighbouring buildings & Castlefield Vernacular.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 10:47 PM   #40
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Pleased with the improvements to the street level interaction - a big thumbs up on that. Still not happy with the relatively blank wall staring aimlessly down the business end of Deansgate.
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