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Old November 11th, 2016, 05:20 PM   #61
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And jrb knows something about a skyscraper behind Piccadilly station.

I vote we go out, get jrb and civstu drunk and make them spill their beans
Well I was just speculating it was behind Picc Station. It could be somewhere else. That site has recently gone up for sale so we can expect a tall there at some point I guess.
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Old November 11th, 2016, 05:26 PM   #62
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Well the Store Street surface car park is closing.
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Old November 11th, 2016, 06:13 PM   #63
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The great jackson st area (next to Owen Street) must be a contender:



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Old November 11th, 2016, 09:08 PM   #64
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Not to mention the back end of Gmex.....or whatever it's called these days.
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Old November 11th, 2016, 09:14 PM   #65
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Not to mention the back end of Gmex.....or whatever it's called these days.
I was just thinking that...Sky Park was its former name.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 03:07 AM   #66
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Don't forget Little Peter Street announcement by Manchester Place, in August, that Queensbury Properties had been selected to develop this 1.46 acre plot for 500 new homes.

On basis that Angel Gardens is 2.2 acres & 466 properties, LPS must surely come in at over 30 storeys.

What's that going to look like with Axis facing 10-12 Whitworth St, that in turn facing LPS & that - possibly - facing River Street?
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Old November 13th, 2016, 03:25 AM   #67
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Manchester's going to have its own "downtown" area around here: a brilliant cluster of skyscrapers which will really define the city. The views down Deansgate, Whitworth St and Portland St are sure to be amazing. The geography of Manchester (where all main streets appear to head towards the Owen St/Great Jackson area) really lends itself to a skyscraper cluster here. You'll be able to see the skyscrapers bookending these streets, it'll be incredible.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 03:30 AM   #68
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Just to show what I mean:

The sightlines of all of Manchester's north-south main streets is perfectly orientated for a cluster of skyscrapers around Great Jackson St

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Old November 13th, 2016, 03:50 AM   #69
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The sightlines of all of Manchester's north-south main streets is perfectly orientated for a cluster of skyscrapers around Great Jackson St




Yeah your right VDB. It will be like a proper extension of the city centre. It will give it more depth from Moseley street etc because it gives the indication and the illusion that the centre still exists to that point and that it may even extend further past the taller buildings.

Excited at the thought a few districts will be added to the centre. Real growth.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 03:53 AM   #70
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Don't forget Little Peter Street announcement by Manchester Place, in August, that Queensbury Properties had been selected to develop this 1.46 acre plot for 500 new homes.

On basis that Angel Gardens is 2.2 acres & 466 properties, LPS must surely come in at over 30 storeys.

What's that going to look like with Axis facing 10-12 Whitworth St, that in turn facing LPS & that - possibly - facing River Street?
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloa...nt_opportunity

Found this in relation to Little Peter Street, worth a look.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 04:08 AM   #71
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Its since been sold. A developer/plan is due to be announced before Xmas.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 04:19 AM   #72
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Need far more top quality townhouses being built amongst and around all these new biggies.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 04:22 AM   #73
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Need far more top quality townhouses being built amongst and around all these new biggies.
Agreed - a variety of different housing styles is crucial. We need rows and rows of townhouses filling up our inner city - look at Boston's Back Bay area for inspiration, or vast swathes of Brooklyn.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 12:51 PM   #74
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We don't need them that close to the skyscrapers though. I want continental style mansion blocks 6-8 floors in the inner-ring road. Town houses 3-4 stories in the inner suburbs.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 02:49 PM   #75
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We don't need them that close to the skyscrapers though. I want continental style mansion blocks 6-8 floors in the inner-ring road. Town houses 3-4 stories in the inner suburbs.
I see what you mean, however have you ever seen the small row of townhouses off Great Marlborough St? I quite like the way they're lodged in between 17NWS and Cambridge St. That type of juxtaposition is so Mancunian, and I think it would be good to get a bit of variety going on.

Mansion houses would be good also

This picture isn't ideal but I took it over summer - the townhouses are to the right there

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Old November 13th, 2016, 03:16 PM   #76
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Need far more top quality townhouses being built amongst and around all these new biggies.
It would be nice but what gets built is determined by economics.

Lets say a piece of land costs £12m - that's not unusual for the city centre. And you can fit 15 decent sized town houses with gardens on it. Each house costs £300,000 to build and you need to make a 20% profit margin - most developers target somewhere around this figure.

That gives you a build cost of £4.5m add in the land cost and you have spent £16.5m. Your profit margin is £3.3m so you have to sell each house for £1.32m.

Can you find 15 people willing to spend that amount in Manchester city centre?
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£1.32 million for a 3/4 bed townhouse over 4 stories, with a balcony, garden and potentially roof terrace - in the very centre of Manchester - isn't really a big ask, is it?
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Back to the real world....

Any more news on the Deansgate South site
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£1.32 million for a 3/4 bed townhouse over 4 stories, with a balcony, garden and potentially roof terrace - in the very centre of Manchester - isn't really a big ask, is it?
Well considering you can buy 3 townhouses at The Roof Gardens for £1.3m I think it is a bit too much to ask at the moment.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 08:36 PM   #80
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Its since been sold. A developer/plan is due to be announced before Xmas.
I have heard the same information. Little Peter Street is not one of the three developments I referred too. So four developments due for planning in the Castlefield/Oxford Road area that I know of.

I mentioned in a post a few months back that MCC won't allow anything taller than the level of Cloud 23 next to the Beetham tower. I retract this statement.

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And jrb knows something about a skyscraper behind Piccadilly station.

I vote we go out, get jrb and civstu drunk and make them spill their beans
Well, if you're buying ;-)
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