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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:15 PM   #1
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Holt Town | 503,000 sqm | 1x25, 2x16, 2x12 floors | +large scale housing scheme | Pro

Continental touch to transform east Manchester

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An ambitious £1 billion proposal to transform the east end of Manchester from ‘Coronation Street to Copenhagen’ has been given the green light by the city council. The Holt Town Waterfront development, which has been drawn up in chief by masterplanner Edaw and engineer Arup, is set to become the largest residential-led development in the North of England and will create almost 4,500 new homes. More info...



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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:18 PM   #2
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of course, Holt Town will be the second stop on the Ashton line coming out off Piccadilly heading east - potentially a 40second headway for trams heading into town.
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 07:23 PM   #3
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17th Jan 2007.

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Old January 23rd, 2007, 08:06 PM   #4
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Where does the Crusty Cob fit in to all this though?
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM   #5
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Where does the Crusty Cob fit in to all this though?
Are you losing interest or just not taking any notice Longy?

Copenhagen.

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Never been to the Crusty Cob on the way to the match jerbil?
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This development is tremendously exciting. It covers a massive swathe of East Manchester centred around the river Irwell and promises high density, mixed use, family friendly development. I believe EDAW have been appointed as lead masterplanners with Studio Egret West also retained to inject a bit of New Islington style 'madness' as it were - probably functionally rather than aesthetically though. As the pdf says, MCC were impressed with "the design flair and innovation in their housing typologies" and have been retained to ensure that this whole development is very much design led. I don't think we will be seeing any Wimpey style generic boxes - hurrah to that!

Really looking forward to seeing this one come to fruition.
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 09:16 PM   #9
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Never been to the Crusty Cob on the way to the match jerbil?

No Mate.

Unfortunately I've never been to the said establishment.
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Old January 23rd, 2007, 09:22 PM   #10
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This development is tremendously exciting. It covers a massive swathe of East Manchester centred around the river Irwell and promises high density, mixed use, family friendly development. I believe EDAW have been appointed as lead masterplanners with Studio Egret West also retained to inject a bit of New Islington style 'madness' as it were - probably functionally rather than aesthetically though. As the pdf says, MCC were impressed with "the design flair and innovation in their housing typologies" and have been retained to ensure that this whole development is very much design led. I don't think we will be seeing any Wimpey style generic boxes - hurrah to that!

Really looking forward to seeing this one come to fruition.
Don't you mean the canal to Ashton, and the River Medlock, the Irwell goes around Lower Broughton in Salford
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Oops. Yes I did.
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jrb - if you've a subscription to aj, could you post the rest of the article on here please?

In a previous incarnation as a consultant strategic planner, I was in a losing team for the Holt Town project. I thought Edaw's bid was based upon a (good in my opinion) idea about creating an inner city 'middle-class' area like Newcastle's Jesmond. This, in my understanding, would therefore have included a lot of high quality family homes. However, all I see in the artist's impression is flats. Does anyone know if this is an anomalous area within Holt Town, or was the final scheme much more orientated towards flats than once was envisioned?

If anyone's interested, here's a very brief history of the area that I wrote for our bid (we were constrained by a very low word limit for the document)

An 1833 map of the area shows cotton mills and a reservoir (1776) set in a predominately rural location on the fringe of Manchester. Holt Town urbanised in the mid-nineteenth century, largely through major municipal investments – notably the sanitary and gas works. Major industry included engineering, a colliery and an abattoir. Housing was developed amongst this industry, and the area, although poor, thrived and formed part of what was known as the workshop of the city.

Industrial decline and the slum clearances of the 1960s led to depopulation, and a disintegrated, sometimes bleak, built environment. However, some notably examples of Victorian industrial architecture remain, and the presence of the Ashton Canal and River Medlock provide topographical interest, green space, and historic character.
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I don't see how a high quality, high density, family friendly district is mutually exclusive from flatted development. I think the key here is innovation, hence the inclusion of Studio Egret West alongside EDAW.
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An ambitious £1 billion proposal to transform the east end of Manchester from Coronation Street to Copenhagen has been given the green light by the city council.
The Holt Town Waterfront development, which has been drawn up in chief by masterplanner Edaw and engineer Arup, is set to become the largest residential-led development in the North of England and will create almost 4,500 new homes.

Billed as high-density family living, the project will see the regeneration of a run-down 38ha plot next to the 2002 Commonwealth Games-driven Sportcity development less than 1km from Manchester city centre.

The scheme is being delivered by regeneration specialist Cibitas, in partnership with urban regeneration company New East Manchester and the city council, and is expected to be divided into a number of separate parcels, meaning a potential windfall of work for architects over the next 15 years.

Among the other collaborators on the project, which is due to go in for outline planning later this year, is Studio Egret West.

Describing the approach to the outline design, Edaw's Andy Spracklen said: 'The main cue for the scheme came from places like Copenhagen and Amsterdam and is based on a perimeter-block housing approach.'

He added: 'The key element is an inside-out approach: with the perimeter block appearing fairly dense on the outside, mirroring the bulk of the historic mills nearby, with internal courtyards on a domestic scale.'

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He added: ëThe key element is an inside-out approach: with the perimeter block appearing fairly dense on the outside, mirroring the bulk of the historic mills nearby, with internal courtyards on a domestic scale.
Is that another word for gated community ?
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Is that another word for gated community ?
sounds like it... I'm all for gated communities myself...
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Old January 24th, 2007, 03:03 PM   #17
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I wonder if Holt town is part of the Medlock Valley development on the East Manchester Development plan? I have a feeling that this is in addition to the Medlock Valley proposals, which I seem to remember were for more big family houses at the top of the price range, whereas Holt town seems more modest.

The apartments look rank, but I suppose they'll be nothing like this when they're actually built. It's good news for the east side of the city anyway.
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The apartments look rank, but I suppose they'll be nothing like this when they're actually built. It's good news for the east side of the city anyway.
Nothing has been designed yet... I'm not sure what those images represent, possibly crude aspirationals to get things moving.
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Renders have finally moved on! Is that an ethnic I see before me?! And child ethnics?!! And that's not a mixed race gay family they're part of is it?!



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I was thinking that myself BG, A envisaged scene from Canal St? maybe they got the canal scenes confused or 'mixed'!
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