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Old June 5th, 2007, 10:12 PM   #61
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Old June 5th, 2007, 10:35 PM   #62
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bobthebuilder comes across like a naive little kid. Im sure he'll learn as he grows up that his ignorance and fear is misplaced and unacceptable in civilised society. Its some of the more adult members that spout similarly shocking homophobia that I find more concerning... but at least they can be engaged and challenged. I don't think Bobthebuilder should be banned - hopefully he will mature and realise in time what an utter fool he is making himself out to be.

Anyway as for Holt Town - well what a tremendously exciting development this is. Presumably the application is for outline only with specific plots developed on a phased basis or packed up and sold off to different developers.

The reason why this development is so exciting is that the very nature of the housing that will be developed there will (hopefully) be pretty innovative and therefore less appropriate and dependent on large investors. If families really do buy into what I think is a superb concept we really could see Holt Town being developed out rather quickly and in a sustainable, high density urban format that has not been delivered on this sort of scale in urban Manchester for a long time. Even redevelopments such as Hulme (as remarkable as that districts rennaisance has been) will not compare in scope and ambition to this.

I'd be interested to know exactly what role cibitas will play in all of this. Are they merely strategic investors and co-ordinators or will they devlop sites themselves?
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Old January 8th, 2008, 01:09 PM   #63
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b4mmy/M62 can you put this in the relevant Holt Town/New East Manchester thread as I cant find them!!

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Plans for new residential quarter

The development will be less than a mile from Manchester city centre

More than 4,300 new homes are to be built in Manchester to help further regenerate the east side of the city.
Manchester City Council has approved outline plans for Holt Town Waterfront - a 95 acre (38 ha) development less than a mile from the city centre.

In addition to housing built over the next 10 to 15 years, the plans feature a primary school, park, shops, bars and offices as well as a tram stop.

The site is next to Sportcity which was built for the 2002 Commonwealth Games.

Manchester City Council's Planning Committee resolved that they were "minded to approve" the application. The formal approval will be issued when the associated planning agreements have been finalised.

Plans on hold

The scheme's approval will help revitalise the area which has seen a couple of planned regeneration projects stumble or fall by the wayside in 2007.

After Manchester was chosen as the location for Britain's first supercasino last January, Gordon Brown later put the plans on hold for the site in Beswick, east Manchester.

Then in December plans for 407 homes to be built on the Eccleshall Street area of Clayton were scrapped because of concerns over the proximity of chemical plants.

The plans for Holt Town Waterfront were submitted by Cibitas Investments Ltd. The accommodation will be a mix of houses, family apartments and duplexes.

Each will have its own parking space, access to private gardens, village squares and waterfronts.

The scheme is being delivered in partnership with New East Manchester and Manchester City Council.

Tom Russell, Chief Executive of New East Manchester, said the project would "raise the bar" in city living. "Families will have the chance to invest in their future by setting down roots and staying within in the city," he said.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 10:06 PM   #64
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Great news.

The inner city has been seeing a slow but sustained revival for a few years now. This scheme promises to be the best of the lot. This is by far the most exciting single project in the city, in my opinion. Really innovative, large scale high density family friendly development. I look forward to the submission of the first detailed application.


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MANCHESTER GIVES GREEN LIGHT TO THE CITY’S LARGEST EVER REGENERATION SCHEME

Manchester City Council has approved plans for the largest scheme ever to be developed in the city.

The outline planning application for Holt Town Waterfront in East Manchester was submitted by specialist regeneration developer Cibitas Investments Ltd. The 38 hectare (95 acre) development is less than a mile east of Manchester city centre and is the largest planning application ever to be approved in Manchester, as well as being one of the largest regeneration projects in the UK.

Adjacent to the flagship Sportscity development, the scheme will be at the forefront of residential-led regeneration in the UK and builds on the success achieved in the area by urban regeneration company New East Manchester.

At the heart of east Manchester, the project will combine the vibrancy and convenience of the city centre with the attractions and amenities of Manchester's suburbs. The new urban quarter will provide more than 4,300 new homes over the next 10-15 years, the majority of which will be accommodation for families through an innovative mixture of houses, family apartments and duplexes. Each will have its own parking space, access to safe outside green space and private gardens, village squares and waterfronts.

In addition to a range of high quality homes, the area will benefit from a stunning river valley park, a new Metrolink tram stop linking the area both into the city centre and out to the east, a new primary school, studio/office accommodation and a range of shops, bars and restaurants, all of which combine to establish a vibrant mixed neighbourhood just five minutes from the city centre.

David Shelton, managing director at Cibitas, comments: 'We are absolutely delighted with the City Council's decision. We have worked hard as a team with colleagues at New East Manchester to develop a commercially viable scheme that will bring something new and exciting to Manchester and the UK.

"Holt Town Waterfront is an ambitious project that will re-define urban family living in the UK - we hope this project becomes a flagship for the rest of the country."
The scheme is being delivered in partnership with New East Manchester and Manchester City Council.

Tom Russell, chief executive of New East Manchester, said: "This is an exciting opportunity to create a new concept in family housing that is not only unique to east Manchester but anywhere in the UK, yet again raising the bar in terms of urban living.

"Holt Town Waterfront is strategically located close to Manchester city centre, and provides an opportunity to create a new community that will integrate with the existing neighbourhoods. Families will have the chance to invest in their future by setting down roots and staying within in the city."

The first sites are expected to be released to the market in early 2008.

Cibitas was assisted in the preparation of the planning application by GVA Grimley, EDAW, Arup, Berwin Leighton Paisner, Eversheds and Cre8 Management.

Manchester City Council's Planning Committee approved the application at its meeting on 20 December 2007.



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Plans for new residential quarter


The development will be less than a mile from Manchester city centre

More than 4,300 new homes are to be built in Manchester to help further regenerate the east side of the city.

Manchester City Council has approved outline plans for Holt Town Waterfront - a 95 acre (38 ha) development less than a mile from the city centre.

In addition to housing built over the next 10 to 15 years, the plans feature a primary school, park, shops, bars and offices as well as a tram stop.

The site is next to Sportcity which was built for the 2002 Commonwealth Games.

Manchester City Council's Planning Committee resolved that they were "minded to approve" the application. The formal approval will be issued when the associated planning agreements have been finalised.

Plans on hold

The scheme's approval will help revitalise the area which has seen a couple of planned regeneration projects stumble or fall by the wayside in 2007.

After Manchester was chosen as the location for Britain's first supercasino last January, Gordon Brown later put the plans on hold for the site in Beswick, east Manchester.

Then in December plans for 407 homes to be built on the Eccleshall Street area of Clayton were scrapped because of concerns over the proximity of chemical plants.

The plans for Holt Town Waterfront were submitted by Cibitas Investments Ltd. The accommodation will be a mix of houses, family apartments and duplexes.

Each will have its own parking space, access to private gardens, village squares and waterfronts.

The scheme is being delivered in partnership with New East Manchester and Manchester City Council.

Tom Russell, Chief Executive of New East Manchester, said the project would "raise the bar" in city living. "Families will have the chance to invest in their future by setting down roots and staying within in the city," he said.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #65
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OUTLINE APPLICATION for the principle of mixed use development comprising 466,063sqm of residential floorspace (equating to a maximum of 4,348 residential units) Class A1 retail, Class A2 offices, Class A3 restaurant, Class A4 public houses and Class A5 (hot food takeaways (2028sqm in total), Class B1 (offices) and Class D1 non-residential accommodation and Class D2 Assembly and Leisure (11,121sqm in total) and a primary school plus associated access and open space

Application Pending Decision

Target Determination Date: 10/01/2008

Applicant's Name: Cibitas Investments - East Manchester Ltd

Agent's Name: GVA Grimley LLP
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£1bn suburbia plan to go-ahead

A £1 BILLION project to bring suburbia into the city has been given the green light by planners.

More than 4,300 family homes, many with private gardens and parking, will be built over the next 15 years on a 95-acre wedge-shape piece of land between Great Ancoats Street, Sportcity and Miles Platting.

The Holt Town Waterfront development, less than a mile from the city centre where the River Medlock meets the Rochdale Canal, is one of the largest regeneration projects in the UK.

It is also the largest planning application ever to be approved in Manchester and comes as a welcome boost to east Manchester after plans for the super casino were put on hold and a 400-home regeneration project in Clayton was scrapped.

The plans for Holt Town also include a new primary school, new Metrolink stop, village squares, a river valley park, and a range of shops, studios, bars and restaurants.

Developer Cibitas Investments Ltd and regeneration company New East Manchester have worked together on the scheme, and work is now expected to start on site early this year.

The ambitious scheme, unique both in Manchester and the UK, will offer a range of different styles of family homes including four-bedroom houses, flats and duplexes.

See Wednesday's MEN Homes supplement for more information.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 10:42 PM   #66
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This seems set to provide the 4-5 storey density you get in many of the vibrant communities in London. I think this is precisely the kind of development we need in the city now.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 11:49 PM   #67
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this is incredible. in 20 years there are going to be so many residences in manchester.

my mind did go kinda fuzzy when i saw on the application 466,000 sqm of houses floorspace. i mean, one canada tower is what... 112,000?
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Density brings vibracy, and only a few minutes from Picadilly on the tram this could be a brilliant development for Manchester if it's done right.
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This seems set to provide the 4-5 storey density you get in many of the vibrant communities in London. I think this is precisely the kind of development we need in the city now.
**** on Irwell, a proper expansion of the central core, do the same on the middlewood lock side.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 01:03 PM   #70
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Wow this should be good

When are they going to start on it?
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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:19 PM   #71
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I am really excited about this. Part of the family - when they first came to Manchester - occupied a house in Holt Town.

Me and my sister went to look around there last summer and we got buzzed by the Police. This was 3pm in the afternoon!!!! They explained that the area was rife for various anti social behaviours. And although neither of us are naive or unsettled by this or the drunk asleep on the green where the tram intends to be.

But it just seemed sad and in need of renovation. Without or with tram cables and wires.

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Old January 10th, 2008, 03:54 PM   #72
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EDAW to bring European-style living to Manchester
Published: 10 January 2008 10:57 Author: Richard Waite More by this AuthorLast Updated: 10 January 2008 10:59Reader Responses

A £1 billion plan to transform the east end of Manchester from 'Coronation Street to Copenhagen' has been approved by Manchester City Council.
The 4,300 home Holt Town Waterfront development is being billed as Manchester's largest ever regeneration scheme, and according to EDAW, the masterplanner behind the 38ha project, will create 'high-density family living'.



The project, for developer Cibitas, will see the regeneration of a run-down, wedge-shaped plot next to the 2002 Commonwealth Games-driven Sportcity development, less than 1km from the city centre.

Project director Andy Spracklen believes the proposals will 'radically shift urban family living in Manchester towards a European model' with a mix of dense houses, family apartments and duplexes around the perimeter, and internal courtyards 'on a domestic scale' within.



It will also include a new Metrolink tram stop, a primary school, offices, shops and bars.

The go-ahead could open up a potential goldmine of work for architects as sites are gradually released over the next 10 to 15 years – most, the AJ understands, to developer/architect competitions.

David Shelton, managing director at Cibitas, said that maintaining design quality was 'absolutely fundamental' to the success of the plan, and that winning developers would have to work within the EDAW 'design vision'.



However, Shelton believes that the constraints of the project, especially the high density, will need highly innovative responses. 'I genuinely don't know another scheme treading the same ground as Holt Town,' he said.

'Developers will not be able to turn up with "One we made earlier".'
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Old January 10th, 2008, 11:38 PM   #73
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Another version of the news from Regenerate, and an indicative render Ive not seen.

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Green light for £1bn Manchester plan
10 January, 2008




By Dan Stewart

EDAW gets planning permit for Holt Town Waterfront scheme

Plans by EDAW for Manchester’s largest ever development scheme have received planning permission.

Situated between the Rochdale Canal and the River Medlock, the £1bn Holt Town Waterfront scheme will be a mixed use neighbourhood designed to appeal to young families.

Half of the developments’ 4,300 homes will be ‘family friendly’, or with three beds or more, and the various streets and open spaces have been designed to be safe and enjoyable for young children.

The developer for the 95-acre scheme is Cibitas Developments, a partnership led by Stanhope and ING Real Estate. The scheme is supported by urban regeneration company New East Manchester.

Construction is expected to take between 10 and 15 years.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 11:41 PM   #74
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lol 'from coronation street to copenhagen'.

is this this but from a different party?

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No. Two entirely different developments though they are not so far apart. If you can use planning portal you can surely figure out google maps!
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thanks. it's quicker to ask you see
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From Place North West.



Manchester approves record homes plans

Cibitas Investments' plans for 4,300 new homes on 95 acres of east Manchester have been approved by the city council.

The outline planning application for Holt Town Waterfront is the largest ever to be approved in Manchester.

The houses and apartments will be built next to the Sportscity development in an area overseen by urban regeneration company New East Manchester.

Cibitas was created by former English Partnerships development director David Shelton to deliver the Holt Town project.

Shelton said: 'We have worked hard as a team with colleagues at New East Manchester to develop a commercially viable scheme that will bring something new and exciting to Manchester and the UK.

"Holt Town Waterfront is an ambitious project that will re-define urban family living in the UK - we hope this project becomes a flagship for the rest of the country."


The phased scheme will be built over the next 10 to 15 years with the majority of units aimed at families. Each home will have its own parking space, access to green space and private gardens, village squares and waterfronts.

In addition a new river valley park, Metrolink tram stop, primary school, studio/office accommodation and a range of shops, bars and restaurants will be delivered.

Tom Russell, chief executive of New East Manchester, said: "This is an exciting opportunity to create a new concept in family housing that is not only unique to east Manchester but anywhere in the UK, raising the bar in terms of urban living.

"Holt Town Waterfront is located close to Manchester city centre, and provides an opportunity to create a new community that will integrate with the existing neighbourhoods. Families will have the chance to invest in their future by setting down roots and staying within in the city."

Each phase will see its own architectural competition and will be delivered subject to approval of a separate detailed planning application. The first sites are likely to be released for sale in 2008.

Cibitas Investments is based in Manchester and is backed by ING Real Estate, Stanhope, Waystone/CP Holdings and other private investors.

Manchester City Council's planning committee resolved that they were "minded to approve" the application. The formal approval will be issued when the associated planning agreements have been finalised.

Cibitas was assisted in the preparation of the planning application by GVA Grimley, EDAW, Arup, Berwin Leighton Paisner, Eversheds and Cre8 Management.

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EDAW and GVA Grimley have advised developers Cibitas in securing a resolution from Manchester City Council to approve a pioneering masterplan for Holt Town Waterfront in East Manchester. Supported by the area’s urban regeneration company New East Manchester, around 50% of homes in the mixed use neighbourhood will be family units (3+ bed) and nearly 70% of residential floorspace will be family-friendly. Located just 10 minutes away from the city centre and soon to be connected by tram, the new sustainable community will be a family orientated destination positioned in Manchester’s historic green Medlock Valley between the Rochdale Canal and the River Medlock. The masterplan is an ambitious solution to urban family living through new high density housing formats and amenity spaces that combine the convenience and buzz of city centre life with the space and greenness of the suburbs. The project is the result of 2 years intensive design and planning work and features many firsts for Manchester, including the application itself which is the city’s largest ever single development application. The masterplan, designed to foster a sea change in the city’s residential market, will bring families back into the city through an inventive range of new residential homes together with safe streets, a range of open green spaces, play areas and a distinctive sense of place rooted in the historic waterfront setting of Holt Town. Importantly, the masterplan has been designed around key sustainability principles, including maximising solar gain and utilising SUDS (Sustainable Urban Drainage Systems). The project team from EDAW’s Manchester studio helped ensure the sustainability initiatives were adequately factored into the financial model, including the differing costs of meeting the targets of the Code for Sustainable Homes. This attention to detail has given the necessary confidence that Holt Town Waterfront as an innovative, family-orientated development is a viable proposition in modern Manchester.
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