Is multiculturalism still working in London?

[Ebeneezer_Goode]

They're certainly not taking over, but I do think Britons have become a bit passive to insidious cultures that seek to turn ours on it's head for fear of being branded racists. The vast majority of immigrant cultures enrich our own, but when we've got others that vocally seek to take civil liberties backwards 100 years with vocal opposition limited largely to clowns like the EDL, then we really do have problems.

[hugh]

Originally Posted by spindrift

It's an unseemly spat about who sits where, a million miles away from the "OMG THE MUSLIMS ARE TAKING OVER!" angle you appear desperate to take.

But the who sits where is loaded, one might as well talk about segregation on the bus in Selma as a game of musical chairs.

[spindrift]

Originally Posted by hugh

But the who sits where is loaded, one might as well talk about segregation on the bus in Selma as a game of musical chairs.

If you want to absurdly exaggerate what happened, yes. Some muslim nutjobs desperate for publicity asked people to sit in certain places. They got told to go and boil their heads and are now banned. It's quite a long way from flying planes into buildings.

[hugh]

Originally Posted by spindrift

If you want to absurdly exaggerate what happened, yes. Some muslim nutjobs desperate for publicity asked people to sit in certain places. They got told to go and boil their heads and are now banned. It's quite a long way from flying planes into buildings.

Yes, it is quite a long way from flying planes into buildings. Though closer than that butterfly in China. I'd take it a step further and say that moderate religionists faclitate the fundamentalists (I include the other desert religions here). The sooner these primitive cults are consigned to the proverbial dustbin, the better.

[State of London]

While multiculturalism is not a bad thing, we do need to make some changes, such as discouraging regressive parts of overseas cultures (the rights of women etc.) and we need to encorage civic pride and a stronger "London" indentitly

What we should not do is encorage igornace, intolerance, racism, xenophobia, sexism and homophobia etc.

[UK86]

Originally Posted by levaniX

Well, why turkish diaspora adapts successfully into the british society, at least more succesfully than Pakistani for example

They're muslim too.

I think aggressiveness of particular peoples doesn't depend on religion itself, but on mentality, on the level of life, on many factors, after all.

Islam is not bad at all, fundamentalists ruin it greatly.

Turkey, India and Bangladesh etc are far more forward thinking than the nation of Pakistan. With it's proximity to Afghanistan, Pakistan has been plagued with problems for generations, which is why I think some of them find it more difficult to integrate into western societies.

[Rain Drops]

Dont know about London..but I have lived in Newcastle for three years and I'm from East Africa( Tanzania)

I can honestly say that, I have never experienced any problems( apart from night club bouncers), got my friends, all except two of whom are caucasians, love my drinking night outs, love everything..and most of the time, when we arent talking about football or snooker, we talk about Cultures, I explain how I was brought up, my religious beliefs, my view on the world and the western states and they explain to me atheism, british culture etc.

I think it depends on how someone is brought up, I was brought up in a multicultural neighbourhood and was taught to respect other people and to fear no-one but God..so it was easy for me when i got here to just mix it up, my dad asked me one time at home, how did I manage to get friends..I replied, I just went into a bar the first day and ordered drinks, then started talking to the counter, and there he was a friend of mine already, and the freshers week did certainly help.

Many people here in UK are interested and intrigued to know where a foreigner is from, how his country lives, his religion etc..when you start talking about that, you create some kinda bond and it helps me and them to be friends.

If that doesnt help..just go out at night. I'll always make new friends in bars and clubs