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Old March 6th, 2013, 07:26 AM   #141
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Old March 6th, 2013, 08:31 AM   #142
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I don't consider Eurasia to be a single continent.

Hence N. America and S. America are two continents to me.

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Old March 21st, 2013, 09:58 PM   #143
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Originally Posted by socrates#1fan View Post
In the Western world, American means exclusively the people of the United States of America.

In the United States, if you referred to anyone other than US citizens as Americans you will get blank stares. It either doesn't make sense, or sounds extremely pretentious and bigoted. We don't call ourselves United Staters, we call ourselves and exclusively ourselves American.

If America was a thousand times poorer I doubt people would be wanting to be included in being called American.

Everyone knows that when you say American, you mean a citizen of the US. They act other wise to appear more global in their thinking, but really it isn't fooling anyone.

This whole debate makes about as much sense as the Germanic Dutch and Germanic English bitching that the Germans call themselves German.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 05:53 AM   #144
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During the early years most people had more of a connection with their state and people would say they are a Virginian before claiming to be from the USA. After the civil war there was still a lot of division in the US, and especially in the south, people would claim to be from their state before the US, it was WW1 that really put the US on the world stage as a superpower and brought the country together in the common war effort that built national pride. Since then being an "American" has been the standard.

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Old March 22nd, 2013, 01:51 PM   #145
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I also avoid using the word "America' when referring to the USA but, when I mean the continent, I say "North America" or, if I mean the whole hemisphere, "the Americas". I have never heard anyone in Canada say "America" when they mean North and/or South America.
Yes, it's a bit pointless to deny that everyone from the Yukon down to Chile are in America despite what some people think. It's best to avoid using 'America' in reference to one country in it. 'United States' is a perfectly good country name.
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Yes, it's a bit pointless to deny that everyone from the Yukon down to Chile are in America despite what some people think. It's best to avoid using 'America' in reference to one country in it. 'United States' is a perfectly good country name.
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Well, here in Brazil (the largest and most populous country in South America (8.500.000 km2/200 million people) we call ourselves Brazilians or South Americans, and our neighbours countries South Americans or Hispanic/Latin Americans. And the people from the United States we call them Americans (sometimes North Americans too). And as anyone can see, we are quite representativ of South Americans (half the population).

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Originally Posted by Knitemplar View Post
OK, here's the real deal.

Yankees or citizens of the United States of America are generally referred to and call themsleves 'Americans.' I do.

Canadians don't; Panamanians don't; Ecuadoreans don't, etc., etc.

Re the other 2 biggest countries in the hemisphere: Brazil and Mexico. Brazil's official name is "Federative Republic of Brazil," and they certainly don't call themselves "Americanos." I believe they call themselves Brasileiros. ANd the people of Rio are not called Rio de Janeirainos. They are called the 'cariocas' (lower case "C").

Mexico was called the Estados Mexicanos Unidos (the United Mexican States), when it won its independence in 1882, and in an effort to emulate its northern neighbor. But they have NEVER referred to themselves as "Americanos," nor is that what they call the Yankees. I am sure you have heard it, the slang term for the north of the Rio Grande Americans are 'gringos.' And as late as November 2012, Mexico now wants to change its official name simply to "Mexico" in order to divorce itself from the earlier attempt to emulate the US.

So, while the entire hemisphere are called the "Americas," the term "Americanos" cannot be applied to the odd 22 countries on the two continents.
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I know I'm a little late to the game here. But, I must say that all this talk about what Americans should call themselves is really quite foolish and also very authoritative. I am by no means a super-patriotic American. I believe that we should be more open to other countries and tend to be quite liberal (bordering on Socialist) when it comes to politics. But, I don't think anyone has mentioned the ridiculousness of telling a people what they can or should call themselves. If your last name is Smith or Gonzalez or Wong or Baker or WHATEVER, no one is going to tell you that you can't or shouldn't use that last name because other people use it or, really, for any reason. When it comes to being an American, we are the only country in the Americas who has America in our name. That's my first point (which has been used before). The most important thing, though, is that no one has the right to tell someone else what she can't or shouldn't be called. The United States of America has a history going back centuries of calling its people "Americans". Why should we change this because someone else feels like this applies to them as well? If you feel like it should apply to you also, call yourself an American! Who cares? It's not my place to say otherwise! I'm just saying......
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I always thought that americans are US citizens. Citizens of Brasil call them selves brasilians, citizens of canada call them selves canadians, citizens of Russia call them selves russians. Not russian federationists. Brittons do not call them selves united kingdomians or great brittonians. How should US citizens call them selves ? United statians ? I guess there is some insecurity and maybe envy from South Americans ?
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