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Old May 21st, 2008, 01:14 PM   #1941
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Swan Creek/Warehouse District Redevelopment News

It was passed at the council meeting last night to allow Tetra Tech to purchase Erie Street Market, Water Distribution Building, and 27 parcels to proceed the Riverwalk project, very good news!

Council blesses Riverwalk plans
Posted on WUPW FOX 36 website on May 20, 2008


DOWNTOWN TOLEDO -- Toledo City Council members have given the Swan Creek Riverwalk project its blessing Tuesday evening.

Although city leaders are all on board, it doesn't mean the project is a done deal. The next step is in the hands of Tetra Tech, the developer, which will now dig into the soil in environmental cleanup in order to transform the banks of the creek into an entertainment, living and shopping hub on the edge of downtown.

"Every development project has risk involved," said Councilman Joe McNamara. "We just need to make sure we understand it and that it's a risk worth taking for the taxpayer."

The taxpayers will get over $4 million for the land along the creek and the Erie Street Market, but some don't consider Tetra Tech's initial payment a down payment because the company will get it back in a year if the deal falls through.

"If they walk away from the deal in 11 months and 28 days they walk away with the money as well," said Councilman Michael Collins.

That money would be over $75,000 if closing does not happen before the end of the year, figures some on the council fought for.

"You cannot expect members of council to just accept any multi-million dollar deal that the administration wants us to pass, without asking good questions we're not doing our job," McNamara said.

Part of that questioning involved the council showing the deal to Matthew A. Sapara, New Project Development with the Toledo Lucas County Port Authority, who doubles as a lawyer.

"(Sapara's) got the expertise actually to render a good opinion. The port authority is constantly working on development deals."

"I will feel better when Tetra Tech says we've done our due diligence, we believe we can remediate the property, and citizens of Toledo we have a deal," Collins said.
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I found this on WSPD 1370AM newsradio website in regards to the new housing developments in north Toledo:

Edison Place Means 32 New Homes
New North Toledo Neighborhood


The first home is under construction in a new North Toledo development called Edison Place. A neighborhood group is behind the effort to build 32 market-rate homes near the new Chase Elementary School. Jessie Maraquin of North River Development says the homes range from $115,000 to $170,000. Edison Place is expected to be complete in 2011 at a cost of $7 million.


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NORTH TOLEDO -- If you build it, they will come. At least, that's what one north Toledo group is hoping.

They're building a new neighborhood around the nearly completed Chase Elementary School.

News 11's Tanieya Lewis reported live from the neighborhood in development.

This is how it works. Families who move into the neighborhood off of Ontario will get to send their kids to the brand new Chase Elementary School. The school will offer an eco-friendly curriculum, so kids will get to do projects in the wetlands nearby.

The wetlands is why the developer chose the location -- calling it a "Neighborhood of Choice."

The project is part of the "New School, New Neighborhood" coalition where developers are building homes around four TPS schools under construction. It's an effort to transform the entire neighborhoods and attract working families such as those from nearby Jeep and Libbey Glass.

The first home is going up and is already sold. There will be 32 homes in this neighborhood by the end of the project. Homes are expected to cost around $115,000.
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Old May 21st, 2008, 01:50 PM   #1943
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Marina District/Riverwalk Development Projects UPDATE

Toledo City Council yesterday handed over 58 acres of city land in East Toledo to Developer Larry Dillin for a planned $320 million Marina District development; and approved the ESM, Water Distribution, and 27 parcels of city property to Tetra Tech on 5/20/08 Tuesday evening.
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United Way Building Development News

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Old West End Neighborhood Development News

As much as I love older buildings to be rehabbed, but I'm glad this building is demolished because it has been an eyesore and filled with empty promises for too many years. It is located right on Monroe & Maplewood. The existing homeowners of the Old West End deserved better and it's good for them for it to be gone.

Now there are four other buildings in the OWE area that I recommend for the city to demolish and they are (hopefully they are reading this):

1) Tremain & Ashland next to the Girl's Scout offices
2) Winthrop & Ashland next to Scott High School
3) Collingwood south of Bancroft next to Lutheran Services
4) Ashland & Columbia which is the former Tia's Bar


City tears down historic complex, owner billed $43K
City tears down complex after years of neglect
Posted on FOX 36 WUPW website 5-21-2008


OLD WEST END -- A historic apartment complex in the Old West End, constructed just before 1920, was torn down by the city Wednesday.

The complex has been on Mayor Carty Finkbeiner's dirty dozen property list and was given numerous chances to fix the place up.

"He was given ample opportunity and actually did board the building on several locations," said Mayor Finkbeiener. "But then he would not make improvements on what needed to be done on the structure to stabilize it."

The city then billed the owner of the historic complex $43,000 for the demolition.

"Sometimes the neighbors get pretty frustrated and they lose insurance on their own properties," the mayor said. "I saw a gentlemen back there quietly applauding what we had done. We had no choice."

Back in the day, the old apartment complex attracted some residents to move into the neighborhood. Some even tried to buy the building, but it was just too hard to maintain.

"Ive been here for 22 years and I moved into this neighborhood because of the historic significance buildings and the architecture," said Marge Dottling, who considered purchasing the complex.

But those who live close by are glad to see it go.

"It needs to come down," said Lance Sims, E & H Taylor Construction. "It's a hazard and it's really not a stable building, and creates a place for people to come for illegal activities."

Many say the nearly 90-year-old building was bringing in a lot of trouble.

"It's a pretty big nuisance with all the boards up on it and everything," said Rachel Spiegel. "It hasn't had people living in it in for a long time."

Two lanes of Monroe near Maple wood will be shut down and could cause some minor traffic back ups as the demolition continues.
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Sylvania: Lathrop House Redevelopment News

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Northwood: Wales Road Overpass Development News

Poor Northwood folks (sense my sarcasm?)
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Apartment building near museum razed
Structure is 1st among 'Dirty Dozen'


Well, let's be realistic here. Nothing is going to get built there, and the building did not look beyond repair. This will just become another gap in a streetscape that has way too many gaps. Tearing it down does nothing but create another hole, and it certainly won't help property values. I see Toledo also tore down the original St. John's. Demolishing these historic buildings for "public nuisance" reasons does nothing to help Toledo. If they think they really have much an effect on property values or drug use, they're sadly mistaken. Those problems persist whether the building is there or not.

The only reason to spend TAXPAYER money on demolitions like these is if the building is a hazard to the public. In neither instance was that the case. The city can bill the owners all they want, but that doesn't mean the taxpayer is off the hook.

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Bowling Green: Cla-Zel Development News

BG's historic Cla-Zel theater is sold again
Written by By DAVID DUPONT Sentinel Arts & Entertainment Editor
Wednesday, 21 May 2008




Ammar Mufleh is the new owner of the Cla-Zel. The downtown Bowling Green landmark, the Cla-Zel Theater, has a new owner.

Ammar Mufleh, of Toledo, has purchased the former movie house from CLA-ZEL Encore, a group of local businessmen who have owned the building since last December.

Mufleh said he's "fascinated" by historic structures, and when Andy Halleck and Tony Dishop first purchased the cinema, he offered to assist them on the project.

When they got involved in other projects, they approached him about buying the Cla-Zel. The sale price was $385,000.

Mufleh said he has been involved in commercial real estate projects in the area and other restoration projects when he lived in Chicago, Los Angeles, and Austin, Texas. His main goal is to maintain the integrity of the architecture while updating it.

He plans to use it in the same way as CLA-ZEL Encore. That would be a club focusing on a variety of entertainment, including musical acts, both local and national, possibility theater, and movies.

The projection equipment and screen in the theater, while needing work, are usable.

The offerings would be vintage, not first-run films, he said, with programs focusing on a theme.

Mufleh said he would be willing to make the venue available to community groups, including the university.

He hopes the new club will appeal to young adults through baby boomers.
Mufleh said he has crews, mostly local, lined up to start working on the project with restoration of the marquee beginning within a week or two.
He's looking forward to an opening to coincide with the Black Swamp Arts Festival in early September.

That's a tight schedule, he said, "but that's the goal."
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Perrysburg: Commodore Redevelopment Update

End is nearing for Commodore in Perrysburg
Written by By DAVID DUPONT Sentinel Staff Writer
Wednesday, 21 May 2008


PERRYSBURG - The school district has taken the first step toward tearing down the oldest, and newest, sections of the Commodore school in downtown Perrysburg.

Superintendent Thomas Hosler Tuesday told the Bard of Education that the administration will seek requests for proposals to raze half the building - the original 1894 section, the 1916 section and the 1991 science wing attached to the 1916 building.

Hosler cited the building's continuing problems, including water leaking from the roof. The district has been told it would cost $268,000 to repair the roof. Officials expect to pay about $234,000 to tear the structure down.
"The fact of the matter is time's running out on this building," he said.

The school board has decided those sections of the building will never be used for either classrooms nor administrative space. An attempt to sell the property to a Michigan developer failed, when the developer, Manchester Properties, could not find businesses interested in locating on the property. Manchester would have razed the structure as well.

At various times, others have made proposals to either raze the building, or to put it to other use. From the district's point of view those proposals all lack a key element, Hosler said, "a check in hand." "We should stop apologizing for this and move on," said board member Mark Schoenlein. "It's selfish for any organization to hold us hostage to keep us in that building ... without providing the money."

He said that the district has done what it can to maintain the building, but it has just outlived its usefulness.

With the structure continuing to deteriorate, the district must take action either to repair or raze it, Hosler said. The district, he explains, needs funds to repair the remaining part of the structure, built in 1931 with later additions of a cafeteria and gym.

The district now uses those as central offices. Hosler said that will remain the case at least in the near future because it has no other viable options.
Staying in the 1931 building is not a desirable option, he said, a view echoed by board members.

"We can't continue to have staff members with buckets on their desks to catch rain water," board member Walter Edinger said.
Board member Val Hovland said that the building needs to be made safe for both employees and the public who has to visit the building on school business.

Hovland noted that the 1991 science wing of the building depends completely on the old structure for its utilities. Alone it has no plumbing or electricity.
Hosler said its roof also needs to be replaced.
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Well, let's be realistic here. Nothing is going to get built there, and the building did not look beyond repair. This will just become another gap in a streetscape that has way too many gaps. Tearing it down does nothing but create another hole, and it certainly won't help property values. I see Toledo also tore down the original St. John's. Demolishing these historic buildings for "public nuisance" reasons does nothing to help Toledo. If they think they really have much an effect on property values or drug use, they're sadly mistaken. Those problems persist whether the building is there or not.

The only reason to spend TAXPAYER money on demolitions like these is if the building is a hazard to the public. In neither instance was that the case. The city can bill the owners all they want, but that doesn't mean the taxpayer is off the hook.

IMHO, I think the OWE Association will be doing another corner park/streetscape like they did in various of places around the neighborhood. They dedicate huge amounts of their free time and raise funding (from the OWE festival) to maintain and beautify their small parks.

If the building were to be rehabbed they would need more parking because it looks like a 15-18 unit dwelling and it's not enough especially in today's world. This building used to be perfect for its location because it sits on the former Monroe Street Trolley line and population was far more dense in the early 1900s. Bottom line, it's too bad really that we've come to this especially with high fuel prices.
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^No, it's too bad Toledo destroyed its mass transit system and deurbanized. In terms of parking, there actually was a large lot behind the building and empty space across the street. The lot looked large enough for maybe 20 cars. This demolition was a mistake.

And that still doesn't get at my main point. Taxpayers are fronting the bill for a demolition that they shouldn't be funding. This was not an emergency demolition or anything like that. The building looked structurally intact. It's not like it was falling onto Monroe Street. 2640 Monroe is a prominent location and the city has just created another hole in what was once a vibrant urban corridor. If this keeps up, it will be a corridor of nothing. Down the road, these historic buildings will be much more valuable. Without that quality housing stock, Toledo will not see repopulation or much more gentrification. This apartment is exactly the kind of building people look to rehab in vibrant urban cities. Down the road, that could be Toledo should it choose a healthier, more urban path.

The only time the city should really be paying for demolitions is in the case of public hazard. The building did not meet that condition. If the owner couldn't afford to fix the building, then he probably can't afford to pay back the city. The apartment should have just been sold to someone else and held onto until the point it's renovated or falling into the street. I can't believe people would call quality construction like that an "eyesore." You know, there were people who said the same thing about the historic warehouses around Fifth Third Field...

They also said the same thing about the Valentine Theater, the Toledo Trust Tower, the Commodore Perry, the Pythian Castle, The Toledo Steamplant, etc., etc., ETC. Point being, there are always some people who complain about vacant buildings, regardless of their structural condition or potential. The city is the last entity that should be making judgment calls on a building's worth. Let the market handle that. Obviously, if someone bought the building, they believed in its potential. Perhaps he just couldn't come up with the funding. Someone else could in the future.

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And that still doesn't get at my main point. Taxpayers are fronting the bill for a demolition that they shouldn't be funding. This was not an emergency demolition or anything like that. The building looked structurally intact. It's not like it was falling on to Monroe Street. 2640 Monroe is a prominent location and the city has just created another hole in what was once a vibrant urban corridor. If this keeps up, it will be a corridor of nothing. Down the road, these historic buildings will be much more valuable. Without that quality housing stock, Toledo will not see repopulation or much more gentrification.

The only time the city should really be paying for demolitions is in the case of public hazard. The building did not meet that condition.
I agree to a certain degree, however, the city may be doing the demolitions with taxpayer's money but the bill will be sent to the owner. If he doesn't pay up, then property is forfeited to the city or whatnot. I find it disheartening such as the owner doesn't do crap with the building so when is enough is enough?

The building may be intact but there has been three actual fires in the past two years with vagrants in the building, overgrown weeds, steps of the building were crumbling, and abandoned cars in the lot; I drive by there every day to work and I amazed the ignorance of the owner not keeping up with the property nor redevelop it. Shame on him that it had to get to that point.

In a perfect world, I would've forced the owner to sell it to the Art Museum to redevelop itto an artist/studio living complex since the proximity is close by.
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^The owner lives in Point Place, a mostly middle class neighborhood. Chances are he saw a lot of potential in the property, but just couldn't come up with the money, which is quite understandable given the grim economic picture in Ohio and Michigan. It's hard to secure money in a state like Ohio today. The "when is enough enough?" argument can be used for lots of places. How about the Steamplant downtown? I saw the OWE apartment a few months ago when going down Monroe, and the first thing that popped into my head was "wow, look at the potential of this place." Of course potential is just that- potential. Without money, it's not easy to renovate large properties like this. Perhaps the owner bought it to sell in the future, or hoped he could secure funding in the future.

It's not like he was some wealthy developer. He probably was just an ordinary citizen buying up historic properties for the hope they can be renovated some day in the future. If anything, it could be for mere protectionism of historic property in Toledo. I actually know some people like that in Vistula who are buying properties not to renovate today, but just to prevent the city from tearing them down. They're not rich, and they're mostly just working class joe's who see potential in vacant historic properties but are not in a position to spend a lot of money or secure a lot of loans. The man who owned this apartment building is probably disheartened by what happened. I remember what the owner of the Arbuckle Building went through when his place burned down. People tried accusing him of arson, insurance fraud, and then even went as far as saying the loss of the building "was a good thing since it was an eyeroe." He just was an AVERAGE guy that saw a lot of potential in a beautiful, but vacant building. His heart was broken when he lost that, and people making fun of the property only made it worse.

In other cities, renovations of properties like this have happened. The best comparisons to Toledo would be Providence and Baltimore. They're both large industrial port cities like Toledo that declined considerbly, but have seen lots of gentrification and rehabs in recent years, even on properties people called "eyesores."

The building may be intact but there has been three actual fires in the past two years with vagrants in the building

That is sad, but I hope citizens call the cops to prevent that. It's really the police department's job to handle that if it's a big problem.

In a perfect world, I would've forced the owner to sell it to the Art Museum to redevelop itto an artist/studio living complex since the proximity is close by.

Hey, that makes perfect sense to me. It doesn't have to be an expensive renovation- just livable. There are plenty of starving artists who wouldn't mind living near such a world-class institution.

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US staffers: I moved this thread here because the local Toledo Newspaper (the Blade) wants all of their content out of the forums. It turns out there quite a lot of that in this thread, so I just stated a new one and copied this one here for you to decide what to do with it.
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I'll archive this thread and include a link to it in the new Toledo Development News thread. Jan, you may want to consider instituting forum-wide guidelines for posting news articles.
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