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Old May 21st, 2006, 11:24 AM   #61
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Do the majority of people expect La Lumiere to begin sometime in the next 12 months or is it going to drag on like Criterion Place?
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Old May 21st, 2006, 12:42 PM   #62
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If planning goes smoothly site clearance should begin in Oct/Nov and building will start in January.
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Old May 21st, 2006, 07:14 PM   #63
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Old May 21st, 2006, 09:09 PM   #64
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sorry again to ask about criterion but how long is it going to drag on for. whats gone wrong with it ?

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Old May 21st, 2006, 09:15 PM   #65
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Right, from what others have said, and what I have been told, the problems with Criterion have been due to land ownership/ purchasing, and the whole project has subsequently been placed on the back burner. However there seems to have been slightly more positive news recently, and if you read the criterion thread you'll see there was an engineering article published a few months back that seemed to suggest activity is still going on. This was reinforced by some of the people that went to the Lumiere exhibition (both schemes are by Ian Simpson Architects), who were told that work had re-started on the scheme, and that an application for planning could be amde in the next 6 months or so. Assuming 6-8 moths for planning, work should (hopefully ) begin in the next year, approximately by mid 2007.
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Old May 21st, 2006, 09:18 PM   #66
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Someone could ring up... said someone I know who's company were bidding to build it (turner and townsend? somin like that)
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 04:14 PM   #67
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Are there no pictures of the LL plan yet? (The model) I cant beleive nobody took a camera lol!
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 04:58 PM   #68
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Are there no pictures of the LL plan yet? (The model) I cant beleive nobody took a camera lol!
there was a pic in the YEP a bit back.
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Old May 26th, 2006, 12:51 PM   #69
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Dont know if this has been mentioned, but Lumiere is now on Ian Simpson's website.
There are 2 pictures, both of which have been seen before I believe. (Sorry I still dont understand how to post pictures!)

http://www.iansimpsonarchitects.com/site/main.htm

Go to projects then residential.
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Old May 26th, 2006, 01:05 PM   #70
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Old May 26th, 2006, 01:28 PM   #71
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Looks good, dun it.
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Old May 26th, 2006, 01:49 PM   #72
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Oo-er, the word 'overscaled springs to mind (for that location anyway). Need some time to get used to it.

What will Simon Jenkins make of it?

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Old May 26th, 2006, 02:25 PM   #73
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Well from the second angle it looks pretty much like Beetham Manchester. Thats a building that is so much taller than everything around it and could be accused of being overscaled but so what...it works and has been a positive contribution to the city.
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Old May 26th, 2006, 04:54 PM   #74
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I think it looks fantastic. Anyway with other developments nearby such as Bridgewater Place, Criterion Place and also Green Bank, Monkbridge Forge and that mini Rotunda on Granary Wharf then surely a decent cluster of buildings should develop around La Lumiere anyway so that La Lumiere should not appear isolated and be part of a coherent skyline.
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Old May 26th, 2006, 09:18 PM   #76
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Well from the second angle it looks pretty much like Beetham Manchester. Thats a building that is so much taller than everything around it and could be accused of being overscaled but so what...it works and has been a positive contribution to the city.
Well put. The tower will of course have its own matching twin, so it'll never be standing there on its own anyway. A similar idea to Criterion, perhaps that's the reason they are both twin tower schemes.

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Old May 26th, 2006, 09:56 PM   #77
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Bit of a 'back end of a bus' perspective from that angle I think, from what we've seen so far it always gave the illusion of being rather rectangular and angular with a sort of upwards tapering element, but this shows it as rather 'broad backed'. That said, the perspective from City Square now shows it with that long edge coming to a point facing towards the City Square and angling away towards Wellington Place. Hmmm, definately not rectangular then. The render in the paper didn't capture the perspective. Like it. Not at all like Manchester Beetham in appearance.

Anyhoo, good lord, fantastic, can't get over the fact that the second tower is 113m, taller than BWP. Yowser.

Would love to have seen the model, I'm liking it more and more.

Happy Bank Holiday weekend all!
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Old May 27th, 2006, 12:16 PM   #78
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The display was excellant, there were loads of images, photo real and plans/elevations (which confirmed 54 and 31 storeys), and three models all at different scales (that half of central Leeds, Wellington Quarter area and the development site area). I don't think anyone pointed out that it is the display they used for the CABE presentation (noted in the corner of many of the images). There are no photos as we weren't allowed to take any, all the display material was copyrighted.
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Old May 30th, 2006, 10:03 AM   #79
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Good to see Leeds civic trust are in favour of this development http://www.leedscivictrust.org.uk/

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Old May 30th, 2006, 11:07 AM   #80
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Good to see Leeds civic trust are in favour of this development http://www.leedscivictrust.org.uk/

Your Civic Trust link did not work for me.

I used to find the current development and applications list on their website very useful. But this last year or so their website has obviously not been kept up to date. At one time that list was updated almost every month but lately it has been neglected for months. As I write, the last update was 12 February - almost four months ago, and before that it was almost six months. Also their link to the City Council applications and decisions list does not work.
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