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Old June 10th, 2006, 09:43 PM   #201
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Saying that Sir Syed was pre-partition doesnt make any sense. He is still our hero. If we dont respect him, who do we expect will? the Indians?? We need to remember that our history in the subcontinent doesnt just start with the creation of Pakistan.

Also, I am not dishonoring the role of Fatima Jinnah in the creation of Pakistan. No doubt she played a very important role. I bet there were also a lot of other very important people in the time of the Pakistan movement as well which would deserve a mention. Muhammad Ali Jauhar anyone?

My whole argument for the support of Sir Syed is that he is a historic personality. He was the one who saved us all from sinking into blame and mistrust after the burden of the War of Independence of 1857 was put on our shoulders. He was the one who put in the seeds of enlightenment for our nation by urging us to not quit educating ourselves just because the British had taken over. Also, were it not for the illustrious education institutions he established, a lot of our national leaders would not have played the parts they did. Because most of them studied from those institutes.

I havent seen any major thing named after him yet in Pakistan. With the exception of the Sir Syed Univ in Karachi, but that is a private institution.
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Old June 10th, 2006, 09:58 PM   #202
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Glad to see that Islamabad will get a new airport.

IT SURE NEEDS IT SINCE THE CURRENT ONE REALLY SUCKS!

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Old June 10th, 2006, 11:13 PM   #203
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Fatima Jinnah is a nice name...but then again we already have Jinnah International in Karachi...so I wouldn't choose it...Sir Syed Ali Khan or Rashid Minhas sounds really good...
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Old June 10th, 2006, 11:19 PM   #204
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We already have Minhas Airbase...

FJI-Fatima Jinnah International
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Old June 11th, 2006, 12:51 AM   #205
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Saying that Sir Syed was pre-partition doesnt make any sense. He is still our hero. If we dont respect him, who do we expect will? the Indians?? We need to remember that our history in the subcontinent doesnt just start with the creation of Pakistan.

Also, I am not dishonoring the role of Fatima Jinnah in the creation of Pakistan. No doubt she played a very important role. I bet there were also a lot of other very important people in the time of the Pakistan movement as well which would deserve a mention. Muhammad Ali Jauhar anyone?

My whole argument for the support of Sir Syed is that he is a historic personality. He was the one who saved us all from sinking into blame and mistrust after the burden of the War of Independence of 1857 was put on our shoulders. He was the one who put in the seeds of enlightenment for our nation by urging us to not quit educating ourselves just because the British had taken over. Also, were it not for the illustrious education institutions he established, a lot of our national leaders would not have played the parts they did. Because most of them studied from those institutes.

I havent seen any major thing named after him yet in Pakistan. With the exception of the Sir Syed Univ in Karachi, but that is a private institution.
Very True! Sir Syed Ahmad Khan is also our national hero but it's also true that his era was pre-Pakistan, I don't see any controversy here..

Gwadar airport (with careful planning it can become a regional hub) is also coming up along with Islamabad airport, we can name one after Sir Syed Ahmad Khan and the other after Fatima Jinnah.

How about this!
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Old June 11th, 2006, 12:55 AM   #206
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LMAO...And please no Musharraf International until he is long dead.
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Old June 11th, 2006, 01:52 AM   #207
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Whats the problem with "Islamabad International Airport" ?? But if i had to chose it would be either Liaqat Ali International or Fatima Jinnah Intl.

Who knows when this airport is made, but as long as it meets the need for future generations and can accommodate the latest aircraft in the industry. At this rate i think not even our future generations will see it
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Old June 11th, 2006, 01:54 AM   #208
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Liaqat Ali?

The man was a supporter of feudals to strengthen his chances at elections after Jinnah died. I would say hell no to that one...
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Old June 11th, 2006, 08:10 AM   #209
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Salam,



Well Sir Syed Ahmad International for Gwadar sounds good GumNaam! I never thought of that name for Gwadar. I think Gwadar would be a wonderful and up-to-date city, and naming its airport after some body who waked muslims up from a deep sleep into the era of Aligarh university is a brilliant idea!!

For Islamabad, i am not sure, ... but there were some rumors in the papers that it has already been decided as Fatima Jinnah International... which i thought was cool.

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Old June 11th, 2006, 10:04 AM   #210
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so far the choices are

Fatima Jinnah Int'l Airport
Liaqat Ali khan Int'l Airport
Islamabad Int'l Airport
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Old June 11th, 2006, 03:13 PM   #211
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so far the choices are

Fatima Jinnah Int'l Airport
Liaqat Ali khan Int'l Airport
Islamabad Int'l Airport
These sound nice but how about...Aziz Bhatti International....after all he is also a hero yaar....first to get Nishan-e-Haidar....
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Old June 11th, 2006, 10:55 PM   #212
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Saying that Sir Syed was pre-partition doesnt make any sense. He is still our hero. If we dont respect him, who do we expect will? the Indians?? We need to remember that our history in the subcontinent doesnt just start with the creation of Pakistan.


My whole argument for the support of Sir Syed is that he is a historic personality. He was the one who saved us all from sinking into blame and mistrust after the burden of the War of Independence of 1857 was put on our shoulders.
just to clear things up, India doesn't need Pakistan to honor a Muslim before it does. Just like Pakistan has named some weapons after Tipu Sultan, similarly, he is remembered as a great hero in our country. In fact, I have been to his old capital city and his maqbara. The AMU is still a top-notch university.

Also, when you say the blame of 1857 was put on 'us', I am assuming you mean the Muslims? I would really appreciate if somebody could PM me with some reference articles about what Pakistan's history text books say about the first war of independence, or just a line or two. thanks.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 04:44 AM   #213
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I think Muhammad Bin Qasim would be a better name for the Gwadar airport considering his legacy in the Makran region (yes i already know about the port). Or alternatively, the name of the Omani Sultan in charge of Oman whenGwadar was handed over to Pakistan.
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Old June 12th, 2006, 05:29 AM   #214
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If the father of the nation has a airport named after him shouldnt the mother of the nation also have a airport named after her?

Without her Jinnah would have probaly never have been able to fight for Pakistan. Without her Pakistan would be a mess upto this day. It is because of her that we were able to handle the refugees and the mass of people.
Pakistan IS a mess........isnt it? but I hope we can clear this mess in this generation.My vote is for 'Islamabad International'
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Old June 12th, 2006, 06:22 AM   #215
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You know what I meant...
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Old June 12th, 2006, 08:04 AM   #216
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I think Muhammad Bin Qasim would be a better name for the Gwadar airport considering his legacy in the Makran region (yes i already know about the port). Or alternatively, the name of the Omani Sultan in charge of Oman whenGwadar was handed over to Pakistan.

Why are we so fond of naming our stuff for names of people who dont have as much national importance?
I have already come across so many things that have been named after King Faisal of Saudi Arabia. Faisalabad, Faisal Mosque, Shahrah-e-Faisal in Karachi, I am pretty sure more things such. I dont understand the redundancy.
I would vehemently oppose Gwadar's anything to be named after an Arabian prince.

Also, since Port Qasim has already been ascribed to Muhammad Bin Qasim (Karachi being his point of entrance into the subcontinent,) its redundant to use his name again as well.
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How about we name it after Edhi? Or does the person have to be dead to name the airport after him/her?
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Old June 12th, 2006, 09:17 PM   #218
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OMG!
you guys r soo touchy!

i believe ppl r just passing time on this issue of the name... well for me , let the thing start and we can always think of a name later. My vote, however, is for Islamabad Int'l airport.

Anyone with news on the airport?
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These sound nice but how about...Aziz Bhatti International....after all he is also a hero yaar....first to get Nishan-e-Haidar....
Following Shaheeds were awarded Nishan-e-haider. How we can prefer one on another ?? difficult, i suggested earlier Rashid minhas because his shahadat was post war and he was young blood..


Captain Mohammad Sarwar Shaheed
Major Tufail Mohammad Shaheed
Major Raja Aziz Bhatti Shaheed
Major Mohammad Akram Shaheed
Pilot Officer Rashid Minhas Shaheed
Major Shabir Sharif Shaheed
Jawan Sowar Mohammad Hussain Shaheed
Lance Naik Mohammad Mahfuz Shaheed
Captain Karnal Sher Khan Shaheed
Havaldaar Lalak Jan Shaheed
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How many times must it be repeated we already have Minhas Airbase!
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