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Old June 3rd, 2005, 02:00 PM   #61
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What is positive about being secular?
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Old June 3rd, 2005, 02:26 PM   #62
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whats positive about being a Islamic Republic?
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Old June 3rd, 2005, 05:58 PM   #63
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Old June 4th, 2005, 12:12 AM   #64
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whats positive about being a Islamic Republic?
It is not a question of being positive or negative...it is just a matter of not ashamed of what you are!!! The fact is that Pakistan is a country which have a 97% muslim population....so why should not we call ourself Islamic republic....
If china believe in socialism they add this to their country's name...Britain is ok calling themself Kingdom because they have a King or Queen! We are still worry about making other people happy....

Pakistan United.... even if you change your name to John and be a PERFECT socalled secular you will still be a black **** in westren world..... That is what I have learnt from my experience so try to be what you are and if you see there is a problem in US then try to reform it within instead of changing all your basics...
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Old June 4th, 2005, 12:18 AM   #65
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It is not a question of being positive or negative...it is just a matter of not ashamed of what you are!!! The fact is that Pakistan is a country which have a 97% muslim population....so why should not we call ourself Islamic republic....
If china believe in socialism they add this to their country's name...Britain is ok calling themself Kingdom because they have a King or Queen! We are still worry about making other people happy....

Pakistan United.... even if you change your name to John and be a PERFECT socalled secular you will still be a black **** in westren world..... That is what I have learnt from my experience so try to be what you are and if you see there is a problem in US then try to reform it within instead of changing all your basics...
I dont care about any of the above

The Quaid did not want us as a Islamic Republic so i just want his wishes completed and we have a grown minority its like at 4 percent now likely to reach 5 percent by 2010 do you know how much 5% of our population is?

we have 160 million people in Pakistan
its almost 10 million people!
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Old June 4th, 2005, 01:34 AM   #66
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I dont care about any of the above

The Quaid did not want us as a Islamic Republic so i just want his wishes completed and we have a grown minority its like at 4 percent now likely to reach 5 percent by 2010 do you know how much 5% of our population is?

we have 160 million people in Pakistan
its almost 10 million people!
Yes I know How much is 5% of 160 million....
It is certainly not 10 million!!!!!!
It is 8 million even if we take your words of it being 5%......

Let me give you an example of a model secular country and its hypcracy....

The muslims are about 10 % of total french population, which is a significant portion of any population (it is more than double of Pakistan's total minority!!)......And what France did to them is shameful and disgraceful.....
They banned the headscarf....it is denying the basic rights of Muslim women and not allowing them to practice their religion.....One of the basic secular principle is freedom of religion......or may be it only apply to the white people!!!! Can you see the contradiction.....I guess not.....or your answer would be I do not care or some other bla bla bla...

My friend let us not follow the westren world blindly and adopt THEIR way of life with out any thoughts....and not make our decision just to please them! if you want to name the airport after fatima Jinnah....then that is fine...but the reason you gave is Just a wrong reason....I hope you understand what i am trying to say! Hope
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Thats extreme secularism

Thier is always a moderate and more extreme scale on anything.

BTW To each his own we can olny wait to see what the youth believes in?
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Old June 4th, 2005, 02:00 AM   #68
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actually i am wrong!

Religion 95% Muslims, 5% others.

thats the stats currently
http://www.infopak.gov.pk/public/govt/basic_facts.html
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Old June 4th, 2005, 02:16 AM   #69
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Old June 4th, 2005, 11:54 PM   #70
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Quaid said in 1946,"We did not demand Pakistan to simply have a piece of land but we wanted a lab where we could experiment different Islamic principles"
Quaid Said on june 18 1945, "Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but also the muslim ideology, which has to be preseved, which has to come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which we hope the others will share with us"
Quaid said,"I cannot understand a section of people who delibiretaly want to create mischief and make propoganda that the constitution of Pakistan will not be made on the basis of shariah, Islamic principles today r as applicable to life as the were 1300 years before"
Now I ask u guys what do u mean by secularism, freedom,justice,tolerance,respect of minorities, equality etc., then make it clear that all of these and much more is guaranteed by Islam which implies that Islam is the most secular religion in the world. So being an Islamic Republic does not harm any one, it protects everyone.
But now all this discussion should end or begin in other thread bcoz here we r exclusively talking about Isb Apt.
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Old June 16th, 2005, 12:41 AM   #71
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ohh yar ferget abt da names.....yeh check karooo
the park located at f-9 wuz first names F-9 Park in 80'z, changed to CAPITAL PARK in 90'z n then in 1997-8 it wuz finally named FATIMAH JINNAH PARK.....
so dont worry abt the names...they keep on changing.....focus on the ground breaking ceremony.....
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WILL THERE EVER BE A GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY!!!!! IM DYING OVER HERE...
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Old June 16th, 2005, 09:12 AM   #73
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Where is it being built?
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Old June 16th, 2005, 02:27 PM   #74
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Quaid said in 1946,"We did not demand Pakistan to simply have a piece of land but we wanted a lab where we could experiment different Islamic principles"
Quaid Said on june 18 1945, "Pakistan not only means freedom and independence but also the muslim ideology, which has to be preseved, which has to come to us as a precious gift and treasure and which we hope the others will share with us"
Quaid said,"I cannot understand a section of people who delibiretaly want to create mischief and make propoganda that the constitution of Pakistan will not be made on the basis of shariah, Islamic principles today r as applicable to life as the were 1300 years before"
Now I ask u guys what do u mean by secularism, freedom,justice,tolerance,respect of minorities, equality etc., then make it clear that all of these and much more is guaranteed by Islam which implies that Islam is the most secular religion in the world. So being an Islamic Republic does not harm any one, it protects everyone.
But now all this discussion should end or begin in other thread bcoz here we r exclusively talking about Isb Apt.
give me direct links for those quotes
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Old June 17th, 2005, 05:53 PM   #75
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Source: http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/june-2005/17/index12.php

Many kept in dark as CAA moves on new airport project

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ISLAMABAD - While confusion still prevails in the government circles over the site for new Islamabad airport, Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has not only acquired 2,425 kanals of land near Fateh Jang for the project but has also started its fencing.
Unlike past practice, it has been decided this time to keep the planning division away from the project, which so far seems to be in the dark over construction of new airport in the financial year 2005-06, a document of the project has revealed.
The CAA was set to hold the foundation-laying ceremony of the new airport on March 23, but postponed it on the directives of the president’s secretariat.
It had also engaged an event manager besides carrying out site preparation for the ceremony.
President Musharraf was to inaugurate the construction work of the airport project.
The secretariat directed the CAA to complete the physical possession of land and its fencing before holding the formal ceremony of the new airport.
The CAA is now set to hold the foundation-laying ceremony of the airport on September 6 this year.
The CAA bosses recently made a detailed presentation to Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz and briefed him on the current status of the project and future plans.
A copy of the presentation, available with The Nation reveals that Shaukat Aziz is in the picture regarding of this project for quite sometime and he sanctioned approval to the CAA last year (September 10, 2004) to construct the airport on self-finance basis.
However, officials in defence and planning division have been kept in the dark about the site of the new airport project and when the work commences on it. Parliamentary Secretary for Defense Maj(r) Tanvir Ahmad had informed the National Assembly sometimes back that there was no plan to construct the airport in the near future.
Tanvir’s statement came long after Shaukat had approved construction of the airport on self-finance basis by the CAA. This was followed by advertisements in media for hiring of project management and design consultants on October 25, 2004.
When contacted by The Nation, top officials in the planning division also gave a similar response, saying they did not know about the site and current status of the project.
“We have not received any PC for this project for the current financial year,” said a senior official.
The contradictory statements from government quarters over the site for new airport have had a great impact on the real estate business in areas near the site at Fateh Jang where property prices are now burgeoning.
The copy of presentation further revealed that the CAA had asked the prime minister to delegate powers to its board to approve the new airport as was done in case of the Lahore Airport project.
Japan and China both have offered loans for the project. The CAA sees the Yen Credit (Japanese loan), which is up to $ 300 million, as the best option to finance this project. It has also sought the help of prime minister to direct the economic affairs division to pass on the Japanese loan without any hassle.
It has also sought exemption of custom duties and taxes on all imports related to the new airport to facilitate reduction in project cost.
The CAA bosses had also informed Shaukat Aziz that the work was in progress on the construction of roads, provision of water, gas, electricity and telecommunication facilities.
About the land acquisition, it was revealed that there was 1,960 kanals of land within the boundary of the site for new airport, which was leased out in 1860 by the Punjab government to a family. Its eviction has now been achieved whereas two additional pieces of land measuring 445 and 20 kanals respectively have also been acquired.
Mutation of the land is also likely to have been completed by first week of June 2005. While the fencing of the acquired land will be completed by the end of August 2005, said the presentation report.
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Islamabad: The Islamabad International Airport to be constructed at Fateh Jang will be one of the most prestigious project equipped with most ultra modern facilities, which will meet all the requirements of Civil Aviation, it is learnt.
The airport will facilitate the smooth handling of the national and international flights and a large number of passengers coming and going out of Pakistan.

The project for which the comprehensive planning was still in the process in some cases is expected to cost billions of rupee and will be completed within a period of four to five years.

The plans for the new international airport which will replace the old Chaklala Airport will be formally approved by the cabinet in due course.

The fate of the present international airport in Chaklala, however could not be known. It is possible that it might be retained as a PAF airport. It was also not confirmed if the airport will be allowed to operate to cater the internal flights.

The foundation laying ceremony of the airport for which thousands of acres of land has already been acquired will be performed by the President Pervez Musharraf in the near future.

It is learnt that the new airport has been planned to meet all the future requirements, landing strips, terminals, parking bays, passenger lounges, cargo houses and above all the chain of administrative buildings and residential colonies.

According to experts the airport will be a huge and gigantic complex and will be an example of its kind in the region.

Since the new airport will be way from Islamabad and Rawalpindi the authorities plan to construct two way wide roads up to airport to meet the increasing traffic. For the convenience of the passengers and also other people arrangements to run special transport are also under consideration.

The Ministry of Defence has since issued directive to the concern district authorities to discourage setting up of private housing societies within a distance of five to ten miles around the airport.

The decision to construct international airport at Fateh Jang was taken by the government about two months back and it was formally announced by the Shaukat Aziz during his last visit to the area, which is the part of his constituency. -- BR

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Old July 25th, 2005, 05:21 PM   #78
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is that tiny photo at the top there the current Islamabad airport, from what i can see it is the current airport ...
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I have high hopes for this airport!

Hope they follow Lahore Airports example!

Lahore INTL is amazing and so damn organized!
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Did they even install escalators at Lahore Int. yet?
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