The Liverpool & Manchester Metro-Region Thread

[Rational Plan]

Originally Posted by Duh!

You were doing well until this. Unions has sweet FA with industrial decline. Thery were attempting to get investment to modernise the near Victorian premises British manfacturing junk was made.

Thatcher and Regan off-shored manufacturing to the Far East, creating mass unemployment and inner-city decay. Inner city decay never occured in Germany or France. Then they realised how good they were at this, as people never had enough money topm pay foprm goods to keep the econoy moving. Som they stripped contol of banks and credit, and people have the products but on unlimted credit. Debt upon debt was poured into land as securinty and as an earner as land gains were tax free. Lnd always rose in value - the value lift is common waelth. This was not sustainable and it all collapsed in 2008.

Red robbo was a figment of peoples imagination a three day week did no harm to british industry.

The man hours lost to strikes in the UK used to be the highest in Europe.

Also industrial production rose in both the UK and the USA during the 80's and 90's (though much faster in the USA). Industrial employment however collapsed.

Companies had been going global for many years. It's those who did not that ended up going bankrupt. In Eighties it was all about Japan and as it turned out it's own property driven bubble economy and the newly indutrialising Asian togers of S Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Those jobs were not offshored, they were taken by foreign companies selling cheaper and better made goods.

Part of the problem is that many leading industries were nationlised, restricting investment levels as that all counted as part of government spending, the profitable ones were treated as treasury cash cows, slowly getting more out of date. All of them suffered from political interference in their investment decisions, so often instead of expanding an existing plant they were often forced to build a new plant in some other enterprise site. These companies were also often treated as handy sources of state provided employment rather than business that needed to be efficient and sell things people wanted.



Inner city decay never occured in Germany and France? hmm well in Germany there was more investment in the public realm but those Turkish Gastarbeiter areas were not exactly plush.

And as for France, no they just pushed their poor too the Outskirts into vast highrise public housing estates, where there are regular 'car burning seasons' in these bleak banlieue. In France the main problem is rural abandonment where people have fled to ****** towns. But I suppose Rural poverty is so much more picturesque, especially as it really involves mugging.

I think you will finds that land speculation has always been a problem in the UK and the USA, with continual property bubbles and collapses. The 20th century is littered with them. It's a feature of our economy. It tends to happen in lots of economies with high rates of home ownership.

[ill tonkso]

Is it the road to the existing bridge which passes the Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps pub?

[Ashtonian]

Originally Posted by ill tonkso

Is it the road to the existing bridge which passes the Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps pub?

I also recall the same bridge in the BBC police series - Merseybeat.

[Jon10]

Originally Posted by ill tonkso

Is it the road to the existing bridge which passes the Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps pub?

Yes.
Or, to be pedantic, "from".

[tomo90]

Originally Posted by yoshef

They haven't, it's called the Mersey Gateway.

http://www.merseygateway.co.uk/

The Telegraph article above stated Merseyside Gateway.

[ill tonkso]

Tabloids aren't exactly known for accuracy

[Duh!]

Originally Posted by Rational Plan

Red robbo was a figment of peoples imagination a three day week did no harm to british industry.

A Daily Mail reader. Unions had NOTHING to do the UKs industrial decline. Read some social and economic history. BTW, Robbo was 100% right in his predictions of the uninvested British motor industry.

[Duh!]

Originally Posted by Rational Plan

I think you will finds that land speculation has always been a problem in the UK and the USA, with continual property bubbles and collapses. The 20th century is littered with them. It's a feature of our economy. It tends to happen in lots of economies with high rates of home ownership.

It best you understand land and how it effects the economy. Read Ricardos Law & Wheels of Fortune to start.

[Duh!]

A Londoner friend who is in a private company that does wotk for the BBC in Salford. He said they will need a Manchester office. It consists of a diverted Mcr tel No to London and an accomodation add. One guy goes to Mcr once a week. Meetings are always at the BBC. If not in a hotel if they call the meeting.

[Blackpool88]

Have you resorted to debating something with yourself Duh?

[Duh!]

Originally Posted by Blackpool88

Have you resorted to debating something with yourself Duh?

Do you want to join in? Or write meaningless posts? the topic is The Liverpool & Manchester Metro-Region Thread. Please focus.

[VDB]

Originally Posted by Duh!

Do you want to join in? Or write meaningless posts? the topic is The Liverpool & Manchester Metro-Region Thread. Please focus.

I assume then that the BBC and telephone numbers has everything to do with Greater Manchester then?

[Duh!]

Originally Posted by VDB

I assume then that the BBC and telephone numbers has everything to do with Greater Manchester then?

the influx has not materialized.