Toyota bids for Africa's largest PPP project

[Mwana Pwani]

Originally Posted by Xusein

Thread cleaned. This is ridiculous.

Phew! Shukran Xusein, shukran!

[mwathani]

Originally Posted by èđđeůx

meaning it may not be the largest but certainly could wind up being the best given its impact and size.

I wonder why we like to engage in trivia. The Lamu-Juba project story was not meant to belittle any one or insult anyone. I have read about the projects already named including the Durban port project.

The impression i got from the presentation to stake holders and a story in Business day, dated February this year, the project is going to be fully funded by the South African government. The same can be said of the projects in Tanzania. China normally prefers doing public projects. Probably someone has also said it is a potential PPP project. I may be wrong.

In fact in kenya, the Thika super highway, the Eastern, Southern and Northern bypasses were conceived as potential PPP projects, which is a possibility, but there were no takers. So they were build as public goods.
For the first timer a Chinese company has won a bid to build the JKIA Greenfield Airpot as a DBFO- a PPP project.
This is a good forum.We can sharpen each other and we should be civil in our language.

[mwathani]

Originally Posted by Malaika254

Are there plans to extend the pipeline to Djibouti? I didn't know that.

The proposal is simply from south Sudan. Owing to its disputes with the North, S.sudan entered into non-binding MOUs with Ethiopia to build an oil Pipeline to Djibouti Port through Ethiopia. They entered into a similar agreement with Kenya for a Pipeline from Juba-to Lamu. Toyota's bid assumes that Sudan will take both options.

[mwathani]

Originally Posted by popa1980

Its just the start. Cameroon are building a rail network. With that done, you build a line from juba to east cameroon via c.a.r and you have a coast to coast link. Thats the ultimate goal. Connect that with Lagos and you have something even more amazing.

Actually, the Lamu-Juba Railway line is called aprt of the equatorial bridge earth bridge.

[mwathani]

Originally Posted by popa1980

Its just the start. Cameroon are building a rail network. With that done, you build a line from juba to east cameroon via c.a.r and you have a coast to coast link. Thats the ultimate goal. Connect that with Lagos and you have something even more amazing.

Actually, the Lamu-Juba Railway line is called aprt of the equatorial bridge earth bridge. Please read http://eaers.blogspot.com/2012/02/ke...f-gateway.html

[mwathani]

Originally Posted by Adm.Adama

Mombasa will be important as ever since it will still link Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi and eastern DRC. even that is being expanded to handle more cargo even though its about a few years late...

Mombasa is here to stay. It has just been drenched to 15 m so that it can take post-panamax freighters. Next Ndogo-kudu by pass will built a 19KM road by passing Msa to ease traffic congestion at Makupa cause way and hence traffic snarl ups in the city.
Mombasa port is here to stay because developmental projections in kenya and the region at large is that the Port will remain a cornerstone.

[Malaika254]

Originally Posted by mwathani

The proposal is simply from south Sudan. Owing to its disputes with the North, S.sudan entered into non-binding MOUs with Ethiopia to build an oil Pipeline to Djibouti Port through Ethiopia. They entered into a similar agreement with Kenya for a Pipeline from Juba-to Lamu. Toyota's bid assumes that Sudan will take both options.

Thanks for the clarification.

[dysan1]

The Durban DigOut will be public private and not government funded.

From http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/art...eal-2012-04-10

Molefe confirmed in an interview with Engineering News Online that TNPA would proceed with the development in collaboration with the private sector under its so-called private sector participation (PSP) scheme.

Therefore, only a small portion of the R47-billion capital budget that had been set aside for TNPA under the group’s larger R300-billion, seven-year investment programme would be directed towards the project and the environmental studies that would be required to proceed with the development.

Nevertheless, the project could move ahead as a PSP during the seven-year period, running from the group’s 2012/13 financial year through to 2018/19.

In fact, Engineering News Online established separately that Transnet, which had more or less excluded major PSPs from its Market Demand Strategy, was working on a new version of its PSP in a bid to facilitate complementary private-sector infrastructure investments of as much as R150-billion.

“The biggest PSP that will ever happen in this country is going to be on the DIA site . . . which we hope to dig out and develop into a port,” Molefe said in an interview.

“The money for the development of that port is not in the R300-billion,” he added.

A process was being designed for a build-operate-and-transfer-type development of the port and associated terminals and the details should emerge either during the course of the current financial year or during 2013/14.

“Quite a lot of work needs to go into this . . . but definitely during the next financial we expect this project to go out on tender.”

[Mwana Pwani]

Originally Posted by dysan1

The Durban DigOut will be public private and not government funded.

From http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/art...eal-2012-04-10

Hi Dysan, am kinda new with this ppp stuff and just in the process of learning. So Lydon told me what ppp stands for and I looked up online and saw what it means. I read your article and wanted to know if there is difference btw PPP & PSP. Does PSP just mean it's all private right? just trying to make sure.

[dysan1]

it is just different terminology but it does refer to the same thing. Basically in the instance of the digout port in Durban, Transnet are looking for someone in the private secotr to tender to build and operate the new port, but until the tenders are sent out and locked we cannot understand the full scope.

They have made it very clear though that of the R300bn ($40bn) they are spending on infrastructure and the close on R100bn ($13bn) they are spending in Durban, only a few million are for environmental elements to kick off this project (the rest for the existing port and rail), but zero in way of capital funding as it will be PPP.

[mwathani]

Originally Posted by dysan1

The Durban DigOut will be public private and not government funded.

From http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/art...eal-2012-04-10

Thanks dysani. It is now clear the direction the drenching of Durban Port is taking. We should keep tabs on its progress until takes come calling. Given that Africa has turned the corner, we expect there will be takers.

[Mwana Pwani]

[QUOTE=dysan1;94843463] it is just different terminology but it does refer to the same thing.

Thanks!

[xJamaax]

Originally Posted by mwathani

Mombasa is here to stay. It has just been drenched to 15 m so that it can take post-panamax freighters. Next Ndogo-kudu by pass will built a 19KM road by passing Msa to ease traffic congestion at Makupa cause way and hence traffic snarl ups in the city.
Mombasa port is here to stay because developmental projections in kenya and the region at large is that the Port will remain a cornerstone.

+1

Mombasa will mostly serve Kenya and landlocked countries like Rwanda,Uganda,some parts of DRC e.t.c while Lamu will serve Ethiopia,South Sudan and Northern Kenya.

[Xusein]

What is wrong with you people, seriously. Do I have to ban you all so we can't have the 100,000th pointless Kenya vs Tanzania BS?