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Old June 7th, 2005, 05:46 AM   #61
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Better replacethe EMU rolligns stocks in Mumbai with the Delhi Metro ROlling Stocks
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Old June 7th, 2005, 05:58 AM   #62
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Really? I thought a metro was confirmed for Mumbai!
I think its the skybus metro project which is confirmed with an initial proposal of 11 kms track , later possibly being expanded to 85 kms

btw , Delhi metro looks cool .
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Old June 7th, 2005, 07:14 AM   #63
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Also, India version of the Hong Kong MTR.
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Old June 7th, 2005, 08:06 AM   #64
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Also, India version of the Hong Kong MTR.
They were technical consultants. But the rolling stock is Korean made, at least initially. Future rolling stock will be manufactured in Bangalore.
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Old June 7th, 2005, 09:36 AM   #65
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Good to see they are expanding the system on time and within the budget.
Last time I was in Delhi (Dec 2003) I went on the metro and was somewhat surprised by the width of the trains inside, compared to the width of trains in Bangkok anyway. It was huge. Are they broad guage like Indian Railway trains?

I just wish somebody has the foresight to install platform screen doors on the other underground stations to prevent unwanted accidents.

Nova: do you know what company will be in charge of manufacturing the rolling stock in Bangalore.
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Old June 7th, 2005, 12:04 PM   #66
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Yeah, Delhi Metro used 5 Feet 6 Inch Broad gauge [1.676 meter gauge] - the standard guage of India Railway System ...

Hope that this kind of rollign stock of Delhi Metro will replace the junk EMUs for Mumbai Commuter System + Kolkatta Commuter System
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Old June 7th, 2005, 12:11 PM   #67
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Yeah, Delhi Metro used 5 Feet 6 Inch Broad gauge [1.676 meter gauge] - the standard guage of India Railway System ...

Hope that this kind of rollign stock of Delhi Metro will replace the junk EMUs for Mumbai Commuter System + Kolkatta Commuter System
Khun Wisarut, this is a good idea to use the Delhi Metro rolling stock on the Mumbai Suburban system. I haven't riden the Dehli but it looks great and the Mumbai stock really needs to be upgraded. i understand that there is a plan to introduce a metro in Mumbai and obviously it would need to be very frequent given the current liferisking activity of getting on/off a peak hour train in Mumbai!
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Old June 7th, 2005, 03:06 PM   #68
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They were technical consultants. But the rolling stock is Korean made, at least initially. Future rolling stock will be manufactured in Bangalore.
A correction. Hong Kong MTR had nothing to with this system, either as consultants or otherwise. The rolling stock is similar in HK and Delhi since the supplier (ROTEM of Korea) is the same. The lead technical consultants for Lines 1 and 2 were Pacific Consultants. Line 3 is being implemented in house, since the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) has confidence that the necessary skills have been developed inhouse while Line 1 and Line 2 were being built. In fact, DMRC is now offering consultancy services to other cities in India that are building metros (and there is almost a metro-building frenzy about to get underway all over India - Bangalore, Hyderabad, Chennai and Mumbai have already started the process).
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Old June 7th, 2005, 03:11 PM   #69
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While Delhi Metro and the suburban systems in Mumbai/Chennai etc. use the same gauge, the rolling stock cannot be directly used. This is because the current EMUs in Mumbai/Kolkata/Chennai etc. are all 12 feet wide (at their widest), while the DMRC rolling stock is only 10 feet 2 inches wide. Thus, there will be about a gap of about a foot between the Delhi metro train and the existing platforms in Mumbai. If the Delhi Metro trains are to be used, all the platforms will need to be modified - a daunting challenge considering that the city would be disrupted if trains services are disrupted even for a short period of time. They would have to modify all platforms in all stations simultaneously within a few hours and switch from the existing EMUs to the new rolling stock overnight.

Mumbai is getting new rolling stock however. Not state of the art like the Delhi Metro coaches, but a significant technical (and comfort) upgrade nevertheless.
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Old June 7th, 2005, 04:12 PM   #70
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Before deciding on the exact configuration of the new coaches in Mumbai, they are trying out certain test configurations. Here is a photo of a train with an upgraded driving cab. To repeat, this is not a final configuration - they are only testing out certain things and trying to obtain reactions from commuters. The train shown in this picture has the same coach as the current trains, with only a modified cab.

http://www.**********/photos/Uploads/955_G

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Old June 7th, 2005, 04:18 PM   #71
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These photos are of a new design Diesel-Electric Multiple Unit (for commuter routes that are not electrified).
http://www.**********/photos/DMU/hp_20040729_01
http://www.**********/photos/DMU/hp_20040806_02

And Hyderabad has introduced EMUs of a different design, better than the (existing) Mumbai suburban system. These EMUs are also being introduced in Chennai, with some services already running with these EMUs.

http://www.**********/photos/EMU/mmts_1
http://www.**********/photos/EMU/00017_G
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Old June 8th, 2005, 05:55 AM   #72
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Thanks for your advice Sridharji
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Old June 10th, 2005, 11:17 AM   #73
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Hyderabad's MMTS - getting close to METRO

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Old June 10th, 2005, 11:17 PM   #74
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Mumbai..................SkyBus??? What's that? Link?
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Old June 12th, 2005, 05:20 AM   #75
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Skybus is a suspended railway solution for urban transit, developed by Konkan Railway Corporation (which built and operates the 700km+ Konkan Railway from Mumbai to Mangalore through Goa). Due to the technically challenging nature of the Konkan Railway, the company has gained a reputation for its engineering capabilities and project-management skills. Incidentally, it is also building the most challenging section of one of the toughest railway lines being built in the world - the Kashmir railway line. The section it is building is about 100kms long, 90kms of which is either in a tunnel or on a bridge!

Anyway, enough introduction to Konkan railway. The skybus involves a suspended car running underneath a regular bogie (not a monorail). The bogie runs either in an open ribcage structure placed on pillars or a closed box structure, depending on the user's needs.

The following is the official website of the project and includes pictures of the test track as well a video of a test run.

http://www.sky-bus-metro.com/

Picture gallery
http://www.sky-bus-metro.com/html/skbg_picg.html

Video of the test run
http://www.sky-bus-metro.com/downloa..._trial_run.AVI

The Mumbai project was approved in principle, but got stuck after that. There is a 1.6kms test track already operational in Goa. A full-fledged line was almost approved in Goa, but there has been a recent change in Government there and hence there is some uncertainty about continued support for the project (since it did not complete the approval process before the change of Govt). It was reported a couple of days ago that the city of Pune has approved a line. But it is unclear whether it is in-principle approval or final approval (with the public hearing process completed and funding taken care of).

It is unclear whether this technology will be adopted or not. The key issue is that Konkan Railway does not have funds on its own and depends on Government funding. The Government is not unequivocally committed to the project. Expressions of support are often made but till some Govt. takes the plunge and commits itself fully to the project, there will always be a chicken and egg situation. Nobody wants to take the risk of approving an untested technology. And it will remain untested till somebody decides to take a chance and approve at least a short line.
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Old June 12th, 2005, 07:48 AM   #76
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You mean those trains are made in Korea?
NICE!!! :-)
Another good collaborate between Korea and India.

A couple of days ago, I saw an Indian man in his late 30's with a Korean wife and very young twin daughters. They were the cutest looking kids. And what impressed me was that the Indian man spoke almost perfect Korean. Seems like there are more Indians living in Korea nowadays, nice.
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Old June 12th, 2005, 09:11 AM   #77
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You mean those trains are made in Korea?
NICE!!! :-)
Another good collaborate between Korea and India.

A couple of days ago, I saw an Indian man in his late 30's with a Korean wife and very young twin daughters. They were the cutest looking kids. And what impressed me was that the Indian man spoke almost perfect Korean. Seems like there are more Indians living in Korea nowadays, nice.
Yes, the Korean company certainly did a good job with the trains.

I'm not surprised there are more Indians in Korea these days. Indians are everywhere it seems.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 07:16 AM   #78
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Rail Board seeks nod for MMTS 2nd phase

Rail Board seeks nod for MMTS 2nd phase
A proposal has been forwarded to the Railway Board a few days ago by the MMTS authorities seeking approval for the implementation of the second phase of the project.

Chief Minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy has already accorded his approval for the second phase. It has been proposed to run trains on six routes under the second phase. They are: Secunderabad-Medchal (28 km), Falaknuma-Shamshabad (20 km), Secunderabad-Ghatkesar (19 km), Moula Ali-Sanatnagar (21 km), Moula Ali-Kachiguda (10 km) and Telapur-Patancheru (8 km).

The total cost for implementation of the project in the second phase is Rs 324.08 crore. Of this, two-thirds (Rs 216.53 crore) would be borne by the State Government and another one-third (Rs 108.27 crore) by the railways.

The works would start immediately after the Railway Board sanctions its approval for the second phase. Two new railway lines would be laid for the project. They are: A third broad-gauge line from Secunderabad to Ghatkesar (19 km) and a 7 km-line from the proposed Shamshabad International Airport and the Shamshabad railway station.

RAKES READY: The MMTS rakes are already available for introduction in the second phase. While orders were placed for 18 rakes to Integral Coach Factory, Perambur for the first phase, currently only nine rakes were being used. Nine rakes are kept ready at the ICF and they would be brought to Hyderabad prior to the launch of the second phase. Each rake would have six coaches and would be able to accommodate about 2,000 passengers.
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Old June 15th, 2005, 03:11 AM   #79
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Thanks for the link.
I still don't understand thou......... What is the advantage of doing SkyBus as opposed to already proven SkyTrain? Is it a different tech? Why not just monorail?
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i dont think a few young trees and green grass qualify a station as 'world-class'... the trains are really quite long!
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