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Old August 8th, 2017, 01:04 AM   #1061
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Ali Sultan's deveolpment at 51 Sandy Bay Road, Hobart is moving along nicely...should have the basic 4 storey shell structurally complete by Christmas at this rate...

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Old August 15th, 2017, 12:28 AM   #1062
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UTAS must be pretty confident this will get up soon as spent some money putting up these signs...


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Old August 15th, 2017, 01:16 AM   #1063
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And if what my spies are telling me is correct, then we can all expect a pretty big announcement in the next week on that front. Not an actual start, obviously, but still very interesting nevethless...
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Old August 15th, 2017, 05:55 AM   #1064
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Ali Sultan's deveolpment at 51 Sandy Bay Road, Hobart is moving along nicely...should have the basic 4 storey shell structurally complete by Christmas at this rate...

Went past on the bus today and a large mobile crane was at work swinging in buckets of concrete..but did not have my camera with me..
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Old August 16th, 2017, 08:51 AM   #1065
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New thread? This is exciting for Hobart! Congratulations! Hope it gets across the line. I think it looks magnificent!

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Old August 17th, 2017, 12:48 AM   #1066
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InMyTree there's a thread for the tower: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1958481
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Old August 25th, 2017, 11:55 AM   #1067
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I just read that 35 Murray Street (on the corner where Specsavers was) was recently sold for $2m. We should watch this space.
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Old August 28th, 2017, 02:19 AM   #1068
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Drove past the 51 Sandy Bay Road site on the weekend.

Large mobile crane onsite moving prefab concrete panels around. First floor structure pretty much in place now. Photos to come.

But from the placement of the walls, the flats do look pretty small...
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Old August 29th, 2017, 01:06 AM   #1069
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More blatant idiocy from you know who. The stupidity demonstrated is, quite frankly, astounding ...from the Muckery. Some other interestinbg stuff in this story though. Misleading tag line too as no absolute limit on building heights is ever going to be set in concrete though as the State Government can always overrule in exceptional cases.

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A limit on absolute building heights in Hobart moves a step closer
SIMEON THOMAS-WILSON, Urban Affairs Reporter, Mercury
August 28, 2017 10:46pm
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AN iron-clad limit on building heights in Hobart is one step closer.

The Hobart City Council will next week vote on whether to call for an urgent report on a 45-metre height limit in the CBD and 18 metres in Sullivans Cove, with no discretion.

It also will look at how long such a change may take.

Hobart alderman Helen Burnet had originally planned to call for planning scheme amendments to the Sullivans Cove and the City of Hobart Interim Planning Schemes to push through the changes.

But she instead moved for the report last night.

“It’s slightly altered but the rational remains the same,” said Ald Burnet.

“There is a considerable amount of concern among people in the city about the issue. It really looks to give more certainty to the maximum height.”

Under the existing schemes, the height limit for buildings in the city is 45 metres while around Sullivans Cove it varies from 12 to 18 metres.

But buildings over those limits can still be approved.

That can occur if they meet certain criteria, such as if found to provide an overriding economic benefit.

Under Ald Burnet’s proposal, there would be no such flexibility above these limits.

A number of developments exceeding 45m have recently been approved by the council, including the new Royal Hobart Hospital building (68m), the Myer/Crowne Plaza Hotel (53m) and the Palace Hotel (63m).

The two most contentious proposals — a 179m Davey St hotel and 84m Collins St hotel proposed by the Fragrance Group — are soon set to be publicly advertised.

The motion was passed by three votes to one, with alderman Tanya Denison teeing off in response.

“This motion is outrageous,” she said.

“It’s undermining any confidence any developer would have in Hobart and ensuring they would not spend a single dollar in the city.

“Even if the motion didn’t get up, it has achieved what it has set out to achieve.

“It makes people think that we are hopeless in this city at planning.”

City Planning Committee chairman Ald Jeff Briscoe said he had concerns a height limit could make Hobart a “flat city” like Berlin but said the idea should be looked at by council officers.

“I don’t share your [Ald Denison’s] view about putting developers off,” he said.

“I think we will still have developers wanting to invest in the city.”

Ald Eva Ruzicka said with UTAS looking to expand further into the city, a look at building heights was needed.

“Do we go up, do we go out or do we say this is the limit and then the development spreads to the fringes of the city and we have tourist precincts in other areas,” Ald Ruzicka said. “This is one of the big debates.”

In June, urban design expert Leigh Woolley delivered a report to the council recommending that future building projects in Hobart’s city centre should be restricted to 75m in height and not block views of kunanyi/Mt Wellington.

He has since been asked to do more work into building projects in the city.

Local Government Minister Peter Gutwein also has revealed new draft laws will allow the Government to “call in” certain developments, but has ruled out using this for skyscrapers.

Also last night, the committee voted by majority for the previous ban on self-contained visitor accommodation in the Battery Point heritage area to continue.

Council and concerned residents have argued that Battery Point should be exempt from new rules facilitating the likes of Airbnb to preserve the fabric of the historic suburb.

The council’s representation also calls for a restriction of the numbers of self-contained places at Battery Point if the previous longstanding ban is not reintroduced.

Ald Briscoe said it was important to protect Battery Point. “We don’t want Battery Point to suffer as a residential zone,” he said.

Battery Point Community Association president Charles Morgan said a number of members had written to Mr Gutwein expressing their concerns about the change.

“What worries us is that we are kind of going completely ahead with it and we are not paying attention to what cities like us have experienced,” he said.
Obviously, the rest of the City Council will vote this nonsense down but such proposals really does make the Hobart City Council look like a joke.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 04:44 AM   #1070
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Ironic that the HCC building is more than 18m and so is the Executive Building which is also in SCDA?
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Old August 30th, 2017, 12:55 AM   #1071
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And heres the site...plenty of room for some medium density buildings in this lot.

Geotechnical drilling rig on site and drilling being completed!
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Old August 30th, 2017, 01:24 AM   #1072
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Interesting...maybe Fragrance Group will go first with this project as it is possibly the least controversial? But cannot say for sure because the plans have not been advertised yet!
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Old September 1st, 2017, 06:13 AM   #1073
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From today's Muckery..the backlash against the Loony Tunes has begun.

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SIMEON THOMAS-WILSON, Urban Affairs Reporter, Mercury
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ANY Hobart City Council move to implement a 45-metre height limit on buildings would make little sense because there are already a lot of structures above that height, the Property Council of Australia says.

Hobart aldermen will on Monday vote on whether to instruct officers to look at setting a non-discretionary maximum of 45 metres in the City of Hobart Interim Planning Scheme, Central Business, Commercial and Urban Mixed Use zones.

A cap of 18 metres would also be issued for the Sullivans Cove Planning Scheme.

Property Council of Australia’s Tasmanian executive director Brian Wightman said the move didn’t make sense.

“Considering K Block at the Royal Hospital has already been approved at approximately 68 metres, how does an absolute maximum limit of 45 metres, without discretion, make any sense at all?” he said.

There also were other key issues which needed to be addressed, he said.

“We also look forward to them [Hobart aldermen] explaining how an absolute limit of 45 metres, without discretion, will impact potential investment such as affordable housing, student accommodation, inner-city residential living, a research precinct and/or further extensions to the hospital in the future,” he said.

The proposal — a result of a motion from Ald Helen Burnet — comes despite a number of developments exceeding the existing height limit being approved by the council in recent years.

Under the existing scheme, buildings exceeding the height limit in Hobart can be still approved if they meet certain criteria, such as if they are found to provide an overriding economic benefit.

Also exceeding 45 metres in the city are developments such as the Myer/Crowne Plaza Hotel (53m) and the Palace Hotel (63m).

Ald Burnet said there were a lot of people in Hobart who were concerned at how the discretions had been used in the past. “This is a really critical time when you consider how this very elastic interpretation [of the discretion] has been used,” she said.

In June, urban design expert Leigh Woolley delivered a report to the council recommending that future building projects in Hobart’s city centre should be restricted to 75 metres in height and not block views of Mt Wellington.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 01:47 PM   #1074
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Anyone know how to get decent building site boundary details/drawings online?

Trying to use City of Hobart maps to no avail. Any advice would be appreciated
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Anyone know how to get decent building site boundary details/drawings online?

Trying to use City of Hobart maps to no avail. Any advice would be appreciated
All good - just came across iPlan!
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Old September 15th, 2017, 12:31 PM   #1076
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Looks like Fragrance have bought in Launceton too. Talk of a 25 storey bldg...

http://www.examiner.com.au/story/492...ey-site/?cs=95
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Old September 16th, 2017, 11:03 AM   #1077
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New slogan for our number plates: 'Tasmania - Your Fragrance State'

Looks like LCC have some big decisions ahead as well.
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