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Old May 6th, 2016, 03:58 PM   #101
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Aaand another Belgian bureaucratic idiotic blunder.
That country is going to die because of that.
Belgium is already dead in matter of (big) sport infrastructures.
Not that everything is bad, there is quality but it always misses that extra to be outstanding and world class.
And than is there still politics that plays a part in every decision.
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Old May 27th, 2016, 12:51 AM   #102
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Scale model was presented yesterday.













New video of the final design: http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/32702/KBVB/...p-schema.dhtml
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Old May 27th, 2016, 08:56 AM   #103
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Good looking stadium!
Don't like the corner at the upper tier and had hoped that the lower tier could be retractable (like stade de France) for diamond league races. Missing the courage to pay that extra but we are talking about Belgium, so that's not special.
But overall a good stadium. Looking forward to see the national team - maybe Anderlecht - Belgium cup finals to be played there.
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Old June 2nd, 2016, 03:12 AM   #104
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Good looking stadium!
Don't like the corner at the upper tier and had hoped that the lower tier could be retractable (like stade de France) for diamond league races. Missing the courage to pay that extra but we are talking about Belgium, so that's not special.
But overall a good stadium. Looking forward to see the national team - maybe Anderlecht - Belgium cup finals to be played there.
1 athletic race a year doesnt justify 100 million extra.
+ the distance to the pitch would be far to great.
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Old June 2nd, 2016, 05:49 PM   #105
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1 athletic race a year doesnt justify 100 million extra.
+ the distance to the pitch would be far to great.
Diamond League would be indeed the only big athletic event in the stadium but still there is the Belgian Championship and with that capacity they could even host european or world championships

Distance : watch the SDF. They stands are even or not less further than Wembley - Arsenal (behind the goals)
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Old September 1st, 2016, 07:24 PM   #106
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Looks very similar to the new stadium Lyon.
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Old September 9th, 2016, 02:25 PM   #107
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http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/949/Belgisc...ostadion.dhtml

A new delay has hit the plans for the new stadium in Brussels. It is becoming more and more doubtful if they can actually build the stadium, let alone build it in time for the Euro-2020 championship tournament.

Basically an old, hardly used road called "de buurtweg" (the neighbourhood road) has to be officially decommissioned which will take another official procedure. The local residents who complained at the courts about this have won.

It seems that the local politicians are making quite a mess of this dossier.

Some other articles on this topic (in Dutch but run it through google.translate, that will give you the basic information what the situation currently is):

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Buurtweg Parking C: ‘EK 2020 halen onrealistisch’

Het Eurostadionproject loopt nog eens vertraging op, omdat de vrederechter de buurtweg op Parking C erkent. “Dit kon allemaal vermeden worden. Het is wanbeheer,” zegt Arnaud Verstraete (Groen). “Wie nu nog zegt dat het stadion op tijd klaar geraakt, misleidt” volgens Johan Van den Driessche (N-VA).

De Nederlandstalige oppositiepartijen in het Brusselse parlement reageren geïrriteerd op het zoveelste obstakel in het dossier van het Eurostadion. De vrederechter in Grimbergen heeft geoordeeld dat de buurtweg op Parking C niet is verjaard door ongebruik. De gemeente Grimbergen moet een afschaffingsprocedure opstarten om de buurtweg op te heffen. Dat betekent uitstel voor de mogelijke uitreiking van een bouwvergunning.

“Het halen van de deadline voor het EK 2020 is onrealistisch. Wie nu nog zegt dat het stadion klaar geraakt, misleidt de bevolking,” zegt N-VA parlementslid en Brussels gemeenteraadslid Johan Van den Driessche fel. Een belangrijke reden voor de bouw van het Eurostadion, is de wens van het Brusselse stads- en gewestbestuur om in 2020 het Europees Kampioenschap voetbal te organiseren.

Van den Driessche klaagt over “een opeenstapeling van onderschatte problemen". Hij roept de betrokken politici – met name burgemeester Yvan Mayeur (PS), schepen Alain Courtois (MR) en minister Guy Vanhengel (Open VLD) – op om “eindelijk realistisch te communiceren”. Van den Driessche verwijst naar de belofte van Vanhengel dat er geen overheidsgeld naar het Eurostadionproject zou gaan, die vals bleek te zijn.

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Ook parlementslid voor Groen Arnaud Verstraete zit de houding van het stads- en gewestbestuur in dit dossier hoog. “Voor mij is de belangrijkste overweging dat dit allemaal vermeden kon worden. De vertraging is louter te wijten aan het wanbeheer van de betrokken politici," zegt hij.

In tegenstelling tot Van den Driessche is Verstraete niet tegen de bouw van Eurostadion an sich. “Brussel, de hoofdstad van België, heeft een groot voetbalstadion nodig. Maar ik ben niet blij als ik zie dat overheidsmiddelen op deze manier worden gebruikt. De aanpak is niet meer van deze tijd: de bestuurders handelen niet transparant en amateuristisch," fulmineert Verstraete.

Het is een constante in het betoog van de oppositieleden: ze eisen meer transparantie. Minister Vanhengel zou geen inzage geven in het dossier en maakt een debat onmogelijk. Ook pleiten zowel Van den Driessche als Verstraete voor een atletiekpiste in het toekomstige stadion op de Heizel. “Ik roep op om de renovatie van het Koning Boudewijnstadion eindelijk op de agenda te zetten, met het oog op het EK 2020 én het behoud van de Memorial Van Damme," zegt Van den Driessche zelfs.
RSC Anderlecht might be working on a plan B, although they are denying this at present:

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RSCA koopt skipiste in Neerpede

RSC Anderlecht heeft het terrein van skipiste Yeti Ski in Neerpede gekocht. “De aankoop kadert in de uitbreiding van de jeugdopleiding van de club”, klinkt het bij RSCA. Maar de grootte van het terrein en de vaagheid van de plannen doet eerder vermoeden dat de club met het terrein een plan B achter de hand wil houden indien een verhuizing naar het Eurostadion niet zou doorgaan.

La Capitale bericht over de verkoop en de uitbater bevestigt de transactie aan onze redactie. “De aankoop betekent inderdaad dat Yeti Ski sluit. Wanneer dat zal zijn, weten we nog niet, dat kan evengoed nog enkele jaren duren. Concrete plannen van de voetbalclub zijn er nog niet”, aldus de uitbater. “Mijn vrouw en ik zijn de enige twee mensen die daardoor hun job zullen verliezen, al de monitors en het ander personeel zijn vrijwilligers.”

Nochtans spraken de uitbaters eerder al de wens uit om de skipiste uit te breiden naar een groot overdekt skicentrum. Maar nu RSC Anderlecht de erfpacht van het terrein heeft afgekocht, komt er een definitief einde aan die plannen. Zo verdwijnt met Yeti Ski de enige skipiste in Brussel.

Nieuw stadion?
Met de aankoop van het terrein wou de club vooral anticiperen, zegt woordvoerder van RSCA David Steegen in La Capitale. “We willen de jeugdacademie uitbreiden en verbeteren, maar concrete plannen met het terrein hebben we voorlopig niet.” Nog volgens La Capitale is met de aankoop van het terrein zo’n 2 miljoen euro gemoeid.

De vaagheid over de plannen van RSCA in combinatie met het karakter van het terrein doet echter vermoeden dat er andere belangen in het spel zijn. Een verhuizing van de Brusselse ploeg naar een nieuw nationaal stadion is nog steeds geen uitgemaakte zaak. Mogelijk houdt de club met de aankoop van dit terrein een plan B achter de hand om eventueel een nieuw stadion te kunnen bouwen.
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Old November 18th, 2016, 03:13 PM   #108
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Well last month the environmental impact assessment (Milieueffecten Rapport MER) has been granted by the Flemish government last month and Ghelamco, the construction company, has submitted the planning application (bouwaanvraag) a few days ago.

The plan is to start the construction in May or June (stadium and parking lot). Only concern for the city is the big motorshow in January 2018 which needs a parking space for 12.000 cars. And the expo parking is exactly the place where the new stadium will be built.
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Old December 28th, 2016, 06:26 PM   #109
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The new national stadium in northern Brussels might not be built.

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Local residents campaigned against demolition of the road Buurtweg 3, which runs centrally through Parking C, splitting the proposed national stadium site in two halves.



Residents now had time until December 24 to file their appeals against demolition of the road. So far the municipality of Grimbergen received 65 letters in defense of the road and several further may be in the mail. Each of them has to be reviewed before the road is removed and construction of the stadium begins.

The Grimbergen council will look into all appeals in February (most likely date) and then make recommendation to the Provincial Council. The higher body will then decide whether the road can be demolished. If it’s protected by the Provincial Council, then the national stadium for Euro 2020 might not be built.

Ghelamco, developer behind the controversial Eurostadium project, had earlier indicated that Buurtweg 3 hadn’s been used for the last 30 years and can thus be removed without special permits. Local residents insist they have been using the road and are trying to block the development on Parking C.
http://stadiumdb.com/news/2016/12/br...till_uncertain
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Old December 31st, 2016, 06:38 PM   #110
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Unfortunately among the 3 options they have chosen the worst one imho.
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 06:03 PM   #111
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I knew it. Better for Anderlecht. They should just reform their stadium and expend to about 35 -40 000 being the absolute max. More they don't need.
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Old January 4th, 2017, 12:17 PM   #112
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I knew it. Better for Anderlecht. They should just reform their stadium and expend to about 35 -40 000 being the absolute max. More they don't need.
According to their own feasibility study it's not financially possible. In other words, fitting the additional seats at current Constant Vanden Stock would never be recovered from increased revenue. Though I think we can all agree this would be the more desirable option for RSCA than ending up at Parking C.
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Old January 4th, 2017, 02:56 PM   #113
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In the scenario Brussels can't get its act together with this new stadium in time for Euro 2020 which is looking doubtful at present, will UEFA just revert to the King Baudouin Stadium or will they award it to another city altogether?
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Old January 4th, 2017, 10:18 PM   #114
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I think the Stade Pierre Mauroy in Lille would then be the first possible back-up location. I believe there were already some preliminary talks with Lille about that scenario. But let's hope they can finally get their act together and build this stadium.

The King Baudouin Stadium is not up to the standards anymore to host EC2020 matches.
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Old January 5th, 2017, 04:56 PM   #115
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probably wont select any replacement

A 24team tournment can be done with 12 stadiums as well as could be done with 11
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They may aswell find a replacement. I thought France was ruled out of hosting for Euro 2020 because they held Euro 2016? If so, I would like to see Stockholm's Friends Arena given the nod.
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Old January 26th, 2017, 06:00 AM   #117
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I am very sorry to hear that Brussels, the capital of the European Union, has to have its host stadium for Euro 2020 doomed to cancellation. I'm not sure why anyone would oppose the removal of a road that cuts through a parking lot if that parking lot is going to be the future site of a new-build project. Hopefully construction on this "Eurostadium" starts before the end of June 2017, because any delays past that point and this project is dead, meaning they'll be forced to find another host stadium elsewhere.
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Old January 26th, 2017, 11:53 AM   #118
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Sums up the European Union quite nicely; the showpiece stadium in the capital of the European Union is being held back by bureaucracy.
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Old January 26th, 2017, 01:13 PM   #119
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Sums up the European Union quite nicely; the showpiece stadium in the capital of the European Union is being held back by bureaucracy.
Belgium sums up the whole EU quite nicely. Many different layers of bureaucracy and different people who want to take a wee over every decision. At the end a nothing is left from the initial plan due to many changes and no one is satisfied.
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Belgium sums up the whole EU quite nicely. Many different layers of bureaucracy and different people who want to take a wee over every decision. At the end a nothing is left from the initial plan due to many changes and no one is satisfied.
And lots of money wasted during the whole process..
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