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Old December 1st, 2017, 05:04 PM   #1781
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I could be wrong, but isnt Spurs new upper tier 35°. I think there are a few post taylor report stands that are steeper than 34°.
Highly unscientific I know, but it looks like a 34° rake to me.

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Old December 17th, 2017, 10:54 PM   #1782
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One of the biggest matches of the season and empty seats at the stadium, new pricing stature is need and a urgent rethink is needed of the seating so creating a decent atmosphere in the ground.. You just need to look at Atlanta new stadium and Spurs new stadium next season for what they are doing for the fans.
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Old December 21st, 2017, 11:35 AM   #1783
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One of the biggest matches of the season and empty seats at the stadium, new pricing stature is need and a urgent rethink is needed of the seating so creating a decent atmosphere in the ground.. You just need to look at Atlanta new stadium and Spurs new stadium next season for what they are doing for the fans.
Thought I'd answer this one.

The game was sold out and was so weeks before the fixture.

I did see some United fans get excited on Twitter the day before the game that there were tickets available, but these were through the seat exchange which opens one week prior to the game and makes tickets available to all.

99.9% of City home league games are sell outs. We even got 50k at home to Wolves in an earlier round of the league cup.

Where there are ticketing problems at City isn't due to a lack of demand, it's due to several more irritating factors, which upset fans who can't get the tickets they want.

- Due to us becoming so good in such a short amount of time, we've attracted a fair few "fans" who buy a season ticket but then only turn up for a handful of games. Obviously, many of them can't be arsed putting it on the ticket exchange when they don't come (which they can only do around 6 times a season anyway). This causes empty seats.

- The entire North Stand is a family stand, both tiers. As you watch on TV it's behind the goal on the left hand side. You'll notice this is often where empty seats are. The tickets in here are very cheap compared to the rest of the ground. It means during night or evening games a lot of parents/kids don't come due to it being scary night time, or a parent will come but leave the kids at home with the other parent. The problem with having such a big family stand behind the goal isn't just the empty seats, but the impact this has on atmosphere. The people here will usually leave earlier as well due to them trying to beat the after match rush with their kids.

- Most of the club's complimentary seats for sponsors, club family members etc are in the family stand as well.

One of the biggest giveaways for people who go to games is that when smaller teams only take 1 or 2 of the 3 tiers on offer for away fans, City fans always completely sell out the tiers that the away team couldn't fill, on top of the sell out of normal tickets around the ground. Even when this happens, you will still see the same empty seats dotted around during certain games. Very frustrating for those that can't get a ticket.

Sadly people buy into the Emptyhad myth and get over excited when they see empty seats for City games, incorrectly presuming that the club can't sell out.

The games where we don't have the same demand are CL group games against the mid to lower tier clubs, where some of our fans still hold a grudge against UEFA (hence the CL anthem booing) and don't want to come. Early League Cup games do not always capture the imagination either (like with most teams), but we showed with Wolves that we can get a great crowd even in that competition with the right pricing. They will hopefully price the Bristol City game in the next round accordingly.

If the club built another expansion, it would be full for all league games....but with the same empty seats dotted around the usual places. Personally, I think the club need to clamp down on the non attenders but it seems they're too scared of upsetting anyone.

Hope that makes things clearer to an outsider looking in.
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Old December 21st, 2017, 11:38 AM   #1784
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The South Stand at night

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Old December 28th, 2017, 08:51 PM   #1785
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Thanks the MCX for that , when I visited the ground ,everything is amazing at the ground , fanzone and traveling to the ground. As you said in your detailed post some fundamental changes are needed regarding ticketing and the set up of the ground and the fan experience inside the ground. Three things are needed, move the family stand and create a home end like the kop with safe standing this helps create atmosphere a new outer ring security checkpoint are are needed around the ground so stopping the hold ups with entering the ground. Moving the family section would be a good idea and turn the North Stand into the new Kippax.
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Old December 30th, 2017, 10:08 AM   #1786
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Highly unscientific I know, but it looks like a 34° rake to me.

I can't remember where I read it, but it did state that the upper tier was 35°. I only noticed because I knew that the guide stipulates 34°.
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