Well, Argentina has still never had the games before.Poor Buenos Aires, their future argument for the games just got taken away. hno:
Cheated?I am not supposed to congratulate Rio de Janeiro on winning the 2016 Olympics because of its terrible two-main stadium plan. And I have issues about a completely temporary main aquatics centre and exhibition hall at Riocentro. Because of this, Rio was definitely not my favourite to win and I expected it to fail. But I guess the city probably cheated to win the 2016 Games.
If Rio is going to make a perfect Summer Olympic host city, they're going to have to make some alterations to their plan. First, there need to be bigger construction projects in the city. Second, all of the favelas in the city need to be redeveloped, though it is an impossible job because many of the favelas are on hillsides and the redevelopments will have to be done in phases. Third, regulations allow only one main stadium, so make like Barcelona and Mexico City and just hold the ceremonies in the Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium, which will hold 60000, I don't care how small it is, 60K is the minimum requirementfor a main Olympic Stadium, so we need an undisputed main stadium at the minimum required capacity. Fourth, I saw on Wikipedia that the Rio Metro will have several new lines constructed in the future and I hope that at least some of them will be done before the 2016 Games so that transportation will not be much of a big problem. Fifth, you may need to make several other alterations to your already bad-looking venue plan.
True, that is not exactly special though. There are dozens upon dozens of countries that can make that claim. Only a few continents could.Well, Argentina has still never had the games before.
An Aquatics Center will be built for swimming competitions. Maria Lenk will be used for diving and synchronized swimming.Someone here knows if Maria Lenk Aquatics Park will be in fact the venue for swimming competition ? If not , what will happen with this venue ?
The point for doing that being???A Aquatics Center will be built for swimming competitions. Maria Lenk will be used for diving and synchronized swimming.
The ML was built before the IOC decided to expand the minimum seats for swimming competitions and to make a requirement of a permanent roof. It wasn't desinged to meet these new requirements.The point for doing that being???
^^^^^^What's the new minimum requirement, 12000? Rio doesn't need two large aquatics centres and I'm not expanding the capacity of the Maria Lenk Swimming arena and putting a permanent roof over it. They need to at least reduce the capacity of the new swimming venue to at least 3000. IOC shouldn't have made that decision.
Why not? YES WE CAN lol!:banana::yes::bowtie::baeh3::hi:2014 world cup 2016 olympic games ? is it fair ?
I agree, this credit given to us means that we must and need to do a hard work from now on. Trust us....kay:Congrats Rio on getting the Olympics.
Now the next qquestion, which the IOC did not ask enough- Are you capable of hosting the Olympics?
From a time magazine article "Rio's Olympics Quest: Can it handle the 2016 games?"
"Rio hosted the Pan American Games in 2007, an event that should have transformed the still sometimes provincial resort into a more modern, more international and safer city. The problem is, it didn't quite do that"
Now for details
"they promised to transform the city with a new ring road system, something called a "via light" railway (presumably a light railway), a new state highway and 54 km of new metro lines. But none of the roads, nary a kilometer of metro line, were built. Authorities also promised to clean up the Guanabara Bay, the fetid body of water whose smell assails visitors driving into town from the international airport. Although hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent, the stench persists and the bay remains a stinking eyesore."
The 2014 FIFA world cup doesn't look much better
"More worrying still is that lessons appear not to have been learned. Almost two years after Brazil was awarded the right to host the 2014 soccer World Cup, work has yet to start on its 12 stadiums. A proposed bullet train linking São Paulo and Rio is supposed to be operational in time for the tournament, but the official tender has not been issued yet, and even politicians are now admitting it could be late."
The underdelivering hasn't stopped the events going overbudget
"The Pan Ams reportedly ended up costing many times the original estimate of $177 million, a phenomenal amount given that none of the money went to the promised infrastructure projects. (Some reports had the final costs in Rio close to $2 billion; "
And some more problems
"Some commentators said that was indicative of corruption, but it also suggests serious deficiencies in organization and planning. "Brazil is still learning how to do continuous public policy," Alencar said. "Public works are emergency, localized, specific. There is no strategic planning involved. That was what happened with the Pan Ams.""
I would like to see Brazil have the Olympics. But it needs to prove it is capable of hosting them.
If I were an IOC member, I would ask the Rio delegation to explain the broken promises in the Pan-Am games, why none of the 2014 stadiums have started construction yet, the lack of tenders and progress for the bullet train (which is still at the drawing board, despite it meant to be built in 5 years). While the bullet trains or each metro extension is not vital to the games, it does not give much confidence the stadiums and more serious stuff will be built in time.
Lastly from the article:
"It isn't right that the Olympics be held in the U.S. for the eighth time," Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva said recently, in what was just one in a series of typical appeals to IOC delegates. "It's not possible that it be in England in 2012 and in another European country in 2016 ... It's not fair that Brazil, one of the 10 biggest economies in the world for 30 years; that Brazil, one of the world's industrialized countries, a nation that has demonstrated its love for sports; it's not fair that Brazil not be chosen."
It is not fair that Brazil get the host the Olympics when it is not ready for it.
I really like the idea of Brazil having the Olympics. I am sorry I have to say this, but I worry that what should be a moment of national pride could become a moment of national embarrasment.
Congrats Rio on getting the Olympics.
Now the next qquestion, which the IOC did not ask enough- Are you capable of hosting the Olympics?
From a time magazine article "Rio's Olympics Quest: Can it handle the 2016 games?"
"Rio hosted the Pan American Games in 2007, an event that should have transformed the still sometimes provincial resort into a more modern, more international and safer city. The problem is, it didn't quite do that"
Now for details
"they promised to transform the city with a new ring road system, something called a "via light" railway (presumably a light railway), a new state highway and 54 km of new metro lines. But none of the roads, nary a kilometer of metro line, were built. Authorities also promised to clean up the Guanabara Bay, the fetid body of water whose smell assails visitors driving into town from the international airport. Although hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent, the stench persists and the bay remains a stinking eyesore."
The 2014 FIFA world cup doesn't look much better
"More worrying still is that lessons appear not to have been learned. Almost two years after Brazil was awarded the right to host the 2014 soccer World Cup, work has yet to start on its 12 stadiums. A proposed bullet train linking São Paulo and Rio is supposed to be operational in time for the tournament, but the official tender has not been issued yet, and even politicians are now admitting it could be late."
The underdelivering hasn't stopped the events going overbudget
"The Pan Ams reportedly ended up costing many times the original estimate of $177 million, a phenomenal amount given that none of the money went to the promised infrastructure projects. (Some reports had the final costs in Rio close to $2 billion; "
And some more problems
"Some commentators said that was indicative of corruption, but it also suggests serious deficiencies in organization and planning. "Brazil is still learning how to do continuous public policy," Alencar said. "Public works are emergency, localized, specific. There is no strategic planning involved. That was what happened with the Pan Ams.""
I would like to see Brazil have the Olympics. But it needs to prove it is capable of hosting them.
If I were an IOC member, I would ask the Rio delegation to explain the broken promises in the Pan-Am games, why none of the 2014 stadiums have started construction yet, the lack of tenders and progress for the bullet train (which is still at the drawing board, despite it meant to be built in 5 years). While the bullet trains or each metro extension is not vital to the games, it does not give much confidence the stadiums and more serious stuff will be built in time.
Lastly from the article:
"It isn't right that the Olympics be held in the U.S. for the eighth time," Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva said recently, in what was just one in a series of typical appeals to IOC delegates. "It's not possible that it be in England in 2012 and in another European country in 2016 ... It's not fair that Brazil, one of the 10 biggest economies in the world for 30 years; that Brazil, one of the world's industrialized countries, a nation that has demonstrated its love for sports; it's not fair that Brazil not be chosen."
It is not fair that Brazil get the host the Olympics when it is not ready for it.
I really like the idea of Brazil having the Olympics. I am sorry I have to say this, but I worry that what should be a moment of national pride could become a moment of national embarrasment.[/QUOTE]
Let´s wait for 2016 then you can discover by yourself. OK?
Congrats Rio on getting the Olympics.
Now the next qquestion, which the IOC did not ask enough- Are you capable of hosting the Olympics?
From a time magazine article "Rio's Olympics Quest: Can it handle the 2016 games?"
"Rio hosted the Pan American Games in 2007, an event that should have transformed the still sometimes provincial resort into a more modern, more international and safer city. The problem is, it didn't quite do that"
Now for details
"they promised to transform the city with a new ring road system, something called a "via light" railway (presumably a light railway), a new state highway and 54 km of new metro lines. But none of the roads, nary a kilometer of metro line, were built. Authorities also promised to clean up the Guanabara Bay, the fetid body of water whose smell assails visitors driving into town from the international airport. Although hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent, the stench persists and the bay remains a stinking eyesore."
The 2014 FIFA world cup doesn't look much better
"More worrying still is that lessons appear not to have been learned. Almost two years after Brazil was awarded the right to host the 2014 soccer World Cup, work has yet to start on its 12 stadiums. A proposed bullet train linking São Paulo and Rio is supposed to be operational in time for the tournament, but the official tender has not been issued yet, and even politicians are now admitting it could be late."
The underdelivering hasn't stopped the events going overbudget
"The Pan Ams reportedly ended up costing many times the original estimate of $177 million, a phenomenal amount given that none of the money went to the promised infrastructure projects. (Some reports had the final costs in Rio close to $2 billion; "
And some more problems
"Some commentators said that was indicative of corruption, but it also suggests serious deficiencies in organization and planning. "Brazil is still learning how to do continuous public policy," Alencar said. "Public works are emergency, localized, specific. There is no strategic planning involved. That was what happened with the Pan Ams.""
I would like to see Brazil have the Olympics. But it needs to prove it is capable of hosting them.
If I were an IOC member, I would ask the Rio delegation to explain the broken promises in the Pan-Am games, why none of the 2014 stadiums have started construction yet, the lack of tenders and progress for the bullet train (which is still at the drawing board, despite it meant to be built in 5 years). While the bullet trains or each metro extension is not vital to the games, it does not give much confidence the stadiums and more serious stuff will be built in time.
Lastly from the article:
"It isn't right that the Olympics be held in the U.S. for the eighth time," Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva said recently, in what was just one in a series of typical appeals to IOC delegates. "It's not possible that it be in England in 2012 and in another European country in 2016 ... It's not fair that Brazil, one of the 10 biggest economies in the world for 30 years; that Brazil, one of the world's industrialized countries, a nation that has demonstrated its love for sports; it's not fair that Brazil not be chosen."
It is not fair that Brazil get the host the Olympics when it is not ready for it.
I really like the idea of Brazil having the Olympics. I am sorry I have to say this, but I worry that what should be a moment of national pride could become a moment of national embarrasment.