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Old November 8th, 2017, 05:43 AM   #5941
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He also updated that every year 9000 cr Rs worth projects are initiated even though only 4000 cr is available with them.

Regarding Hoskerehalli Cross junction, they chopped 7-8 fully grown big trees and made 4 lane road 2 lane (1 lane per side) without financial allocation. Those guys deserve an award for such forward thinking and planning.

At Kathriguppe junction also, for proposed underpass (which I feel is not at all required) they chopped 10 really huge trees last year when Steel Flyover Beda movement was in full swing. I think property acquisition is not yet initiated for that.

Were they trying to compensate for 'lost' ground at Bellary Road with trees from other places?
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Old November 8th, 2017, 04:25 PM   #5942
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Updated report on Sarjapur road widening

http://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.co...paign=referral

Looks like BBMP is proceeding with the widening with compensation fixed at TDR
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Old November 15th, 2017, 12:41 PM   #5943
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VARTHUR ROAD SET TO BE WIDENED. FINALLY!



Travelling on the narrow Varthur Kodi Road is a bit of a hazard. Every day, motorists get stuck on this road, sometimes for up to an hour, as traffic crawls forward along Tank Bund Road. But there's hope now. The state government has sanctioned a Rs 30-crore road-widening project, from Varthur Kodi to Sarjapura via Gunjur. The Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) has started the work at Varthur Tank Bund Road. The project, to be taken up in phases, is expected to get completed by 2019. The existing road width is about 21 feet wide, which will be widened to 160 feet for 1.4 km (6 lanes of main carriage way and 2 lanes of service roads on either side) to begin with.

The project will involve re-construction of the existing road to incorporate geometrically correct alignment design, major bridges and other components. The project has also proposed the construction of three major bridges. An official from the BBMP said: "We have started work on gover nment land. We have issued notices to a few property owners along the stretch. We have to finalise the land acquisition process now." Sujith Rangachar, a techie who uses this road regularly, said: "It's such a narrow road that one has to be very careful here. Because of the traffic, crossing a junction here takes ages." Widening Bannerghatta Road The BBMP has started widening of Bannerghatta Road near the Jedimara and Kolifarm junctions. The existing road of 18-24 mtr will be widened to 45 mtr (160 feet) six-lane road that will also have two service roads along with 3 mtr wide medians to allow the Metro work. Once the work is taken up, the Palike will take up construction of TenderSure footpaths along the 7.44-km stretch on both sides.

"As the land acquisition along the stretch has been delayed, the BBMP will take up work along various places where government land is available. We cannot delay the work as it has begun on around 1.5-km between the Jedimara and Nice Road junctions. The remaining stretch will be completed in various stages. We are already negotiating land acquisition with property owners along the stretch," he said.

The BBMP had proposed to widen the 7.5-km stretch between Jedi Mara and Chicken Farm on NICE Road to 45 metres. The road now has a width rang-ing between 18 and 24 metres at vari- ous points. The widened road will have slip road that is 5.50-mtr wide. The private properties to be acquired include 298 buildings, 117 vacant sites and 11 temples

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Old December 2nd, 2017, 12:03 PM   #5944
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Signal-free corridor from Mysore Road-Central Silk Board will move a step closer to reality on Jan 15

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Commuters travelling between Central Silk Board and Mysore Road junction via Bannerghatta Road have something to cheer about: the BBMP (Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike) is confident that it will be able to open Delmia Junction by January 15.

Delmia Junction is one of the five intersections that need intervention so that the stretch between Mysore Road junction and Central Silk Board becomes signal free. Of the five, KEB junction got a flyover recently.

The flyover at Delmia Junction has been taken up under the Nagorathana scheme.

KT Nagaraj, Chief Engineer, Central Project, BBMP said: "Eighty-five per cent of the work is over. We have to join the two ramps and this will be done in December. Remaining work, like construction of utilities etc, is being done simultaneously. We will inaugurate the flyover on January 15."



The third project in the signal-free corridor is Dr Muthuraj junction (better known as Bank Colony Junction) where the BBMP has started work on the underpass. Roads have been dug up and the Palike hopes to complete the work by September 2018.

"The work has already started. The land along the stretch is available and it will not take too much time. The junction has always been heavily congested due to traffic movement from four sides. The underpass will connect Hosakerehalli and Seetha Circle; and commuters travelling between Mysore Road and Kamakya Junction will be able to drive over it," said Nagaraj.

The only hitch in the signal-free corridor are Food World Junction and Jedimara Junction, where underpasses have been proposed but the work is yet to start. "We are in talks with BMRCL as Metro alignment is going to come up at Jedimara Junction. It will take time. Nod for traffic diversion at the Food World Junction was not given by the traffic police as work is going on at other junctions too. So we'll start work on Food World junction underpass only after other projects on the stretch are completed," said Nagaraj.



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Old December 6th, 2017, 06:59 AM   #5945
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Old December 6th, 2017, 09:00 AM   #5946
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Google map showed the deviation on it's east side as a road and I fell for it. When I reached there 5-6 days ago, only two wheelers can go, it's so muddy with mound of dirt. I had to come back to ORR, come all the way to RMN Jn and take Thambuchetty Palya road. It took an extra 50 minutes just for 4-5 kms.

Hope the election gimmick will work to complete this ASAP.

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Old December 6th, 2017, 03:19 PM   #5947
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Updated report on Sarjapur road widening

http://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.co...paign=referral

Looks like BBMP is proceeding with the widening with compensation fixed at TDR
Much needed. At some places this road is only 1 and half lanes wide only creating almost never ending traffic jams.
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Old December 7th, 2017, 06:45 AM   #5948
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Looks like work has started on the Kendriya Sadanand to Ejipura flyover.. The median at Ejipura signal on Intermediate Ring Road has been barricaded..

Evening peak hours show long pile ups at this junction.. Folks coming back from EGL, Bagmane, etc towards Koramangala might face some inconvenience.
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Old December 7th, 2017, 10:57 AM   #5949
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Utility shifting work has re started at Hosakerehalli underpass after approx 6 months of no work
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Old December 10th, 2017, 08:43 AM   #5950
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Cops OK razing Jayadeva flyover for Metro







BENGALURU: The flyover near Jayadeva Institute of Cardiology on Bannerghatta Road in south Bengaluru is set to be demolished to make way for the Metro project.

Bengaluru Traffic Police have issued a no-objection certificate to the Bangalore Metro Rail Corporation (BMRCL) to demolish the flyover to start Metro Phase 2 work.
Additional commissioner of police (traffic) R Hithendra said they were waiting to hear from BMRCL. "They will give us notice before commencing demolition," he said.

In 2015, BMRCL decided to raze the flyover to build an elevated road from RV Road to HSR Layout and an interchange Metro station connecting RV Road-Bommasandra line and Gottigere-Nagawara line of Phase II.



?21-cr flyover built in 2006
The Rs 21-crore flyover built in 2006 by BDA was aimed to reduce congestion on Bannerghatta Road.



A BMRCL official said they have not finalized the date for the demolition of the flyover. BMRCL managing director Pradeep Singh Kharola was unavailable for comments. Home minister Ramalinga Reddy had opposed BMRCL's plan to demolish the flyover and suggested that the Metro go underground.
"This move will increase traffic congestion from Jayanagar to Silk Board Junction. Instead of wasting taxpayers' money by demolishing the flyover, BMRCL should have looked at other options," said Sathish Kumar, a commuter.


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What a waste of tax payer money. Shameless govt instead of razing shops they have decided to raze flyovers, cut trees , do land scam , encroach lakes, and than everyone says this govt is best. If little sense would have prevailed the least they could do is break the loop towards benerghatta road. Not one citizen came forward to stop govt from wasting good 12 crores in one go.
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Old December 10th, 2017, 08:59 AM   #5951
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Demolition shortcuts

In 2005, when the Jayadeva flyover opened on Bannerghatta Road, the intention was clear: To decongest the chaotic junction and ease commute for the next 30 years. But in a classic case of poor planning, lack of inter-agency coordination and foresight, the expensive asset is all set to be reduced to dust for the Namma Metro.

Twelve years ago, the Bangalore Development Authority (BDA) had spent Rs 21 crore of tax-payer's money to build the six-lane flyover. Commuters had endured years of chaos sparked by the construction. A bigger, bitter struggle awaits them in taxing traffic diversions, as a seamless, planned vision for the city takes a huge, numbing hit.

Alternatives unexplored

The Metro alignment has been in the works for years. If vested interests have notoriously managed to change the route in some reaches, why could the Bangalore Metro Rail Corporation not bypass an existing asset and minimize public misery? This is a critical question posed by urban mobility and traffic experts, as public opinion gets steamrolled once again.

Beyond the Jayadeva flyover, such short-sighted projects abound. If the K R Puram cable-stayed bridge remains an enduring example of poor design, planning and execution, flyovers across Bengaluru in their crumbling states showcase a system in decay, trapped in a well-oiled nexus of corrupt contractors, condoning bureaucrats and political vested interests.

ORR imbroglio

The Outer Ring Road virtually comes to a standstill at the cable-stayed bridge. The monster structure's much-hyped designers had carved out a single underpass for vehicles to cross over, just outside the crowded K R Puram railway station. The Ring Road itself has been a victim of bad planning with several flyovers and underpasses built later as an afterthought.

Shouldn't the Jayadeva flyover fiasco be a lesson for the city's planners? Sathya Sankaran from Citizens for Sustainability (CiFoS) agrees. "Ten years ago, the Master Plan 2015 was there for reference. But it did not show the Metro alignments," he points out. "At least in the final Revised Master Plan 2031, all the Metro routes should be clearly demarcated."

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But there is a larger issue. "Today, plan approvals for projects big and small are given without any consideration for the Master Plan. A new mass transport project, such as the Metro, is then always catching up. This reactionary method will hurt us in the long run everywhere in the city," Sankaran warns.

Thirty years from now, if the city has to plan for autonomous vehicles or trams or any other mass transport option, you will end up pulling down more flyovers. "Everything is ad-hoc. You build, you destroy. Look at the Hebbal flyover. Can it accommodate a Metro if an alignment comes that way? What about a tram service that cuts across that junction?"

To bypass existing structures, going underground is a viable option for Namma Metro. But BMRCL did not set a precedent even when it had every reason to do so. The Metro line over M G Road is a classic case, as civic evangelist V Ravichander reminds. "If they had the foresight, the line should have gone underground on M G Road. Taking the ugly structures above ground and destroying the most iconic road of Bengaluru was the most stupid thing to do," he says.

That hasty decision to go over ground despite strong public opposition could prove costly for the Metro, warns Ravichander. Reason: Integration with the second phase line. The same planning and integration loophole has already kicked off much heat after Metro's choice of a site for the Cantonment station, 800m away from the existing railway station.

75-year vision

Mega mass transport projects such as the Metro have to be planned with at least a 75-year vision. This will, as Ravichander reasons, ensure future-proofing. Integration issues with flyovers, railway stations and bus stations will then become easier. "But today, Metro is such a blue-eyed boy that everything else, however costly it was to build, should make way."

At the Jayadeva junction, getting anxious by the day over the demolition, eatery owner Krishna Murthy worries about this misplaced priority. "There is no planning, no ideation. I am forced to wind up my business of 25 years here. Seven big buildings will also go. If they had planned in advance, all this trouble could have been avoided," he laments.

Unimaginable chaos

Once the dust kicked up by the demolition settles, the Metro pillars will start coming up. Businesses and residents around the area are gearing up for a long haul. So are the traffic police. As an assistant sub-inspector at the spot notes, a massive traffic diversion is on the cards. An unimaginable peak-hour chaos is just about to unfold.

Eventually, who will take responsibility for this planning fiasco? Civil engineering and transport analyst M N Sreedhari articulates this concern when he wonders, "Who is accountable for building the structure in the first place? Why didn't they plan to take the Metro lines there underground? Why were alternatives not explored?" Answers are apparently hard to come by in this open enactment of what many call 'money-laundering.'

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Old December 10th, 2017, 01:09 PM   #5952
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Many flyovers, pedestrian skywalks, even road or metro tunnels have been demolished or discarded to make way for better infra in several countries - nothing new since it is bound to happen with growth, efflux of time & changing priorities.

These experts never research those but go hammer & tongs over every single case of what they conveniently term "lack of foresight" or "lack of planning". Some, whose private interests are effected (like Mr Krishna Murthy quoted above) jump in with these experts. After all, its a free for all wherever & whenever criticism is concerned.

In a country like India that does not know where its future is headed, particularly Bangalore with its runaway growth to have become one of the largest outsourcing capitals of the world, such instances will most certainly occur. When authorities move to improve public transport, wonder why there are outrages that agreed cause inconvenience in the short term in exchange for long term solutions.
One can understand if its a needless road development that benefits cars, but its clearly silly to criticize development of a public transport initiative IMO.
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Old December 12th, 2017, 12:04 PM   #5954
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Road widening work (initial part) on Bannerghatta Road has already started on few stretches.

Below are pictures right infront of Prestige Notting Hill Apartments.




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Big trees infront of that Bimal Auto Agency are no more now... Soon the remaining ones on the other side of the road will be gone too

Not sure if the price is worth for the development of future....but hope they replant trees on this stretch.

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Big trees infront of that Bimal Auto Agency are no more now... Soon the remaining ones on the other side of the road will be gone too

Not sure if the price is worth for the development of future....but hope they replant trees on this stretch.
We have seen all , how well they have developed Bangalore oh sorry modern Bengaluru, by uprooting trees and increasing width of roads, breaking making flyovers, killing lakes we have seen it all. Thankfully few people have woken up and did not allow the great steel flyover otherwise we would have no oxygen left for future generation just Wifi for them to watch old vedios of bAngalore.
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We are saying this because we dont trust that govt will take complimentary action and do scientific planning for maintaining ecological balance. This has to change and social media wars won't help.

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Old December 14th, 2017, 07:22 AM   #5958
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Some points are correlated to Metro and this thread, so you'll some points mixed, hope it's taken in proper context.

In Boston, an elevated interstate highway running through the city was replaced with a tunnel and it's associated ramps, bridges etc, the project is the famous "The Big Dig". no doubt it ran into one of the rare cases of bad quality and cost over runs but eventually it was completed and the responsible people and company were held responsible. The biggest change was pulling down the elevated Interstate highway (aka our National Highway) because it had turned a thriving downtown business area into a basement when the elevated structure eclipsed the whole length.

The point I'm trying to make is that cities grow and the need is to respond in the most constructive way and provide a solution with foresight. I have not seen/heard/read a road/bridge/infra that was pulled down due to lack of foresight. This is what we lack in BLR. We all know the example of Kaveri Jn U-turn, Richmond FO, Anand Nagar narrow underpass, additional lane added to Hebbal FO for traffic going north, and the examples are many more.

Was there an opportunity to make these better planned? Absolutely and they didn't. For this we don't need rationalization to condone their lack of vision. I have stopped and see how the Kaveri Jn became the world famous U-turn to go straight joke. They first wanted to make it a straight underpass but found a water pipe, instead of moving that pipe, they moved away towards Bashyam circle and created the Joke. The acquired part of Palace ground is still there to see where one can see the unused land which was to be used to make the underpass ramp come up and join to go towards BDA.

Should we condone this blunder? See the other example: City Market elevated section, in today's standards, it's a little narrow but still holding up where as it was already known that Metro was coming. So Jayadeva FO could have been better thought through. OK I agree that it was too early to think of Ph II, but why didn't they make it like the Dairy circle FO which is 100% better than Jayadeva, why didn't they make it a bi-directional FO along Marenahalli Road? This I think is the classic example of lack of planning/foresight.

People have been screaming/crying on BIA line, the alignment etc for over 3-4 years. Where is the consultation or at least a statement that people have XYZ concerns and we're addressing those by ABC plan?

Instead they come up with "dead-on-arrival" plans like steel bridge (it should be called elevated road) on Bellary which would practically eliminate a metro line along sankey rd originating either from Majestic or the Sarjapur line. If the idea is to promote public transport why are they hell bent on a elevated road that will only help the so called "polluters - the single driver socially irresponsible" people? This is not criticizing public transport initiatives but only on lack of forethought/foresight.

It should be taken in sportive spirit rather than finding ways to defend or rationalize the blunders.

One more blunder about to happen is the lack of vision or plan on BIA stations. For now it may be OK with only 4 stations (I'm not counting the two within airport limit as it only drops people), what about the need to leave space/provision for additional stations at every 1 KM like any other line? When the whole stretch develops, where should that traffic go?
Not a single mention of this point, this is clear lack of planning and this is what I complain. Hope my comments are not taken personally but on the current state of affairs which needs to change else we soon have situations in Metro like the "to-be-demolished Jayadeva FO" and others.

I haven't see even the idea they have thought through things like how to link Sarjapur-YNK line with BIA, or the ORR line from KRP to Hebbal with R6. But they already mentioned something about a branch-off from R6 near Nagawara for the line on Hennur Road which I think is not possible for more than one reason.
Without any deliberation on these, we'll have RV Road station situation (with patch work integration of R4 and R5) at many more places.


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Many flyovers, pedestrian skywalks, even road or metro tunnels have been demolished or discarded to make way for better infra in several countries - nothing new since it is bound to happen with growth, efflux of time & changing priorities.

These experts never research those but go hammer & tongs over every single case of what they conveniently term "lack of foresight" or "lack of planning". Some, whose private interests are effected (like Mr Krishna Murthy quoted above) jump in with these experts. After all, its a free for all wherever & whenever criticism is concerned.

In a country like India that does not know where its future is headed, particularly Bangalore with its runaway growth to have become one of the largest outsourcing capitals of the world, such instances will most certainly occur. When authorities move to improve public transport, wonder why there are outrages that agreed cause inconvenience in the short term in exchange for long term solutions.
One can understand if its a needless road development that benefits cars, but its clearly silly to criticize development of a public transport initiative IMO.
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Jayadeva flyover was built in 2005, so it is excusable.

But a blunder happening currently is 3.4 km flyover at Koramangala. Yelahanka- Sarjapur metro line is planned to come up along that stretch in phase 3. With already having that knowledge, still they are building flyover. Will that be razed down in 7-8 years time? Or will metro have to cough up additional funds for land acquisition?

No long term planning is going on while planning infrastructure for the city. All we get to see is a flyover over some useless junction which has less traffic so that it can be finished quickly used for publicity.
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This portion of Bannerghatta Road is low-lying and is soon to go under the scissors of BBMP

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