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Old June 20th, 2005, 01:14 AM   #21
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They are much more costly to maintain and operate they also are almost as expensive as Skytrain. The overal most efficant most bang for your buck is an LRT like the one in Portland, but ALRT and Monrails are faster and much nicer to use.
Light rail can be built for much lower cost if it can take advantage of an existing right of way or if it is built in the street. If it is built in the street, it is operationally slower and less safe because it must deal with motor vehicle traffic.

Sound Transit had a study performed that compared monorail, light rail, and bus rapid transit (BRT) for a line extending to the east side of Lake Washington. The study concluded that monorail would be more expensive to build because an existing tunnel would have to be modified due to the height of the monorail trains; however, the study only looked at the Hitachi and Bombardier trains that have been proposed for the new Seattle monorail line. The study did not look at the Las Vegas monorail trains, which are not as tall. A further finding of the study was that monorail would be less expensive to operate than light rail. The main advantage that light rail offers is that Sound Transit is already building a light rail line that could be integrated with the east lake line. This offers operational efficiencies that should attract greater ridership.

The main conclusion of the study was that BRT would be far cheaper than either monorail or light rail though it was claimed that BRT would attract fewer passengers. After the study was published, it was identified that there were errors in the cost estimates for the BRT system. The cost advantage of BRT is actually significantly greater than is indicated in the study. A link to the study is provided below:

http://www.soundtransit.org/pdf/proj...sis%20-%20.pdf

Here are a few newspaper articles regarding the study:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/transp...&searchdiff=80

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsourc...22+%2Bbellevue

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._sound13m.html
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Old June 21st, 2005, 07:16 AM   #22
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Of all systems to ride I prefer LRT. I like having transit on the grade level and being able to pick upoff there. I don't like having to go itno these huge underground complexes to get a train or go up to catch one. I find at grade more user friendly like Toronto's RedRockets or Calgary's CTrain.
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Old July 11th, 2005, 04:37 PM   #23
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Monorail in Chongqing (China)

How do you think?
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Old July 11th, 2005, 05:41 PM   #24
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the trains look a bit old school, compared to the monoraisl that are built elsewhere....
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Old July 12th, 2005, 01:56 AM   #25
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Fantastic! The pictures I've been waiting for are of the trains operating through the building and through the tunnel:



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Old July 12th, 2005, 02:06 AM   #26
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the trains look a bit old school, compared to the monoraisl that are built elsewhere....
The trains are the Hitachi Large Type. This is the highest capacity monorail presently available from any manufacturer:

Hitachi Small Type:



Hitachi Standard Type:



Hitachi Large Type:



Specifications from Hitachi website:


For more information, see the Hitachi website:
http://www.hitachi-rail.com/products/monorail/top.html

Also, see the Chongqing Metro website:
http://www.cqmetro.cn/
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Old September 21st, 2005, 02:22 PM   #27
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Chongqing Monorail Changed The Color

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Old September 22nd, 2005, 12:50 AM   #28
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Thank you very much for the picture!

The graphics on the train look like it might be based on the city's skyline. Is it advertising? The trains were very handsome in their original striped livery:



Are the trains now operating along the section of the line that has the tunnel through the mountain? I have not yet seen any pictures of trains in that location:

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Old December 20th, 2005, 08:01 AM   #29
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i suspect the kuala lumpur monorail system was originally the same as this one just looking at guideway it giveaway cause the original contractor was hitachi!
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Old December 20th, 2005, 09:08 AM   #30
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Is it an ad outside the train?
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Old December 20th, 2005, 09:20 AM   #31
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The new color makes the car look better, the old color was rather boring.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 12:47 PM   #32
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Is Congqing getting a cable car?
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Old December 20th, 2005, 03:44 PM   #33
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Looks better now...
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Old December 20th, 2005, 04:23 PM   #34
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Pretty cool, like the Kuala Mumpur system, I believe Japan has similar ones too.
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Old June 12th, 2007, 05:47 AM   #35
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Chongqing Subway Project

China city launches $1.6 billion subway project

SHANGHAI, June 9 (Reuters) - Southwestern China's Chongqing city has started building its first subway project, with an estimated cost of 12.5 billion yuan ($1.6 billion), the Xinhua news agency reported on Saturday.

The 36-kilometre (22-mile) subway line will be up and running in 2011, Xinhua said, without giving further details.

China has been pouring money into construction of subways to cope with worsening traffic caused by the country's rapidly growing car fleet.

Chongqing, one of China's largest cities, currently has a 19.15-km light rail in operation. A second light rail is also under construction, Xinhua said.
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Old June 12th, 2007, 07:07 PM   #36
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Wow Im surprised with the topography of Chongqing that they can build a subway, I'll be really interested in watching this.
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Old June 13th, 2007, 03:35 AM   #37
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cool....gud for Chongqing
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Old June 13th, 2007, 08:51 AM   #38
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Wow Im surprised with the topography of Chongqing that they can build a subway, I'll be really interested in watching this.
me too.
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Old June 13th, 2007, 08:59 AM   #39
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I saw a thread somehwere in these forums about all the major metros planned for Chinese cities. Chongqing will eventually have 250 route kilometers of subways and light-rail lines. With that ambitious plan, it'd be really interesting to see all-rail bridges criss-crossing the Yangtze.
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If I'm not wrong, they have started the red line.
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