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This forum seriously lacks photos and hardly any talk of public transportation. So this new thread to share photos and discuss developments with SETC, TNSRTC, and the metro and city buses, bus terminals etc
 
#13,103 ·
This is true but its also true that volvo has its own standards. if setc is gonna continue its poor maintenance volvo will stop delivering multis to setc to maintain its fame.
If that is the case, they should have stopped delivering Volvo buses to AP guys long back. Now their Garuda Plus volvos looks good. But Garudas? :)
 
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#13,105 · (Edited)
If that is the case, they should have stopped delivering Volvo buses to AP guys long back. Now their Garuda Plus volvos looks good. But Garudas? :)
your point is valid. but how old are garudas? the dabba garudas are almost 7 to 10 years old or would have run so much kms. if the same state happens with setc in just 2 years?

also what really worries me is the blankets which will be given in the bus. in none of the AC buses (except very few tnstc AC buses) the blankets are washed or ironed regularly which is a serious concern.
 
#13,106 ·
this image is our setc getting ready for launch in august or september i guess
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volvo getting ready
nataraj vignesh,
this pic from VOLVO website am i right? those buses are not for SETC. All are your assumptions. I can understand your eager,request you to stick with reliable source of information.
 
#13,107 ·
Last year of DMK regime was full of ALs. An year before that we got few TMLs and this year we are getting TMLs. so its very tough for us to spot a TMLs doing long journeys.

Few years back Madurai region had TMLs doing Madurai-Kanchi, Madurai-Thiruvannamalai, Madurai-Tirupur, Madurai-Coimbatore, Madurai-Salem, Madurai-Cuddalore/Kumbakonam etc.,
The aquired TMLs are 1512cs with lower HP compared to AL. May be the intention was to use higher HP, ALs in long distance routes and deploy lower HP TMLs in city routes for lowering operating cost (better mileage, purchase price). That may be the reason unlike KarRTC, TNSTC purchase 1512s eventhough 1616 and 1618 are available, If it is a stragegic decision, Kudos to TNSTC management.
Any idea how many TMLs are purchased so far this year? How many will be joing later? Also it is good to see competition for AL in TNSTC, now AL wont be able to take TNSTC for a ride...as they have choices. Now there is huge inventory with all the OEMs (TM & AL), RTC s who dont have to worry about money could get a better deal now.
 
#13,108 ·
This is true but its also true that volvo has its own standards. if setc is gonna continue its poor maintenance volvo will stop delivering multis to setc to maintain its fame.
As far as i know, Volvo, so far sold buses with Annual Maintenance Contract only. Even the Eicher ( Volvo Eicher Commercial Vehicles) buses they sold to APSRTC, they were able to get an annual maintenance contract. AL and TM not able to get AMC from any RTCs except DTC. OEMs will provide AMC only if they purchase fully built buses from them. But RTC buy chasis, and make own body or thru private body builders. More people (Bus OEM, Various Body builders) involved more kickbacks for polititians. So they will never go for fully built buses. But some how Volvo always able to over come this, Looks like their sales/marketing is much better, when compared to AL/TM
 
#13,109 ·
Volvo varattum.. vanthathukkapurum?
i wish SETC improves 1000% to maintain that properly.
else..."Kurungu kaila kodutha Poomalai" than
chennai-Tanjore AC bus le 8 .5 hrs seat mela, yen melayum water was dropping.
AC was too chil also(it was newly introduced that time) and everybody was scolding because they could not control the AC.
 
#13,110 ·
The aquired TMLs are 1512cs with lower HP compared to AL. May be the intention was to use higher HP, ALs in long distance routes and deploy lower HP TMLs in city routes for lowering operating cost (better mileage, purchase price). That may be the reason unlike KarRTC, TNSTC purchase 1512s eventhough 1616 and 1618 are available, If it is a stragegic decision, Kudos to TNSTC management.
Any idea how many TMLs are purchased so far this year? How many will be joing later? Also it is good to see competition for AL in TNSTC, now AL wont be able to take TNSTC for a ride...as they have choices. Now there is huge inventory with all the OEMs (TM & AL), RTC s who dont have to worry about money could get a better deal now.
good points. That could be the reason for presence of remarkable number of TML's in TNSTC.
monopoly always should n't be encouraged. entry of TML's after a gap, coming soon VOLVO's may create tough competition for AL , in TNSTC. If every thing goes well, we, the passengers are gainers.
 
#13,111 ·
your point is valid. but how old are garudas? the dabba garudas are almost 7 to 10 years old or would have run so much kms. if the same state happens with setc in just 2 years?

also what really worries me is the blankets which will be given in the bus. in none of the AC buses (except very few tnstc AC buses) the blankets are washed or ironed regularly which is a serious concern.
Even relatively new Garuda's looked bad. BTW they used Garuda brand for their Volvos, Isuzu and Luxuras.

You can see well maintained 7 to 10 yrs old buses from Ka guys. Ka guys also own a separate Volvo service center. :)

Blankets provided in TNSTC AC buses were good. I have used AC buses from CBE and MDU. Not sure about SETC. Havent used any SETC AC services.

The aquired TMLs are 1512cs with lower HP compared to AL. May be the intention was to use higher HP, ALs in long distance routes and deploy lower HP TMLs in city routes for lowering operating cost (better mileage, purchase price). That may be the reason unlike KarRTC, TNSTC purchase 1512s eventhough 1616 and 1618 are available, If it is a stragegic decision, Kudos to TNSTC management.
Any idea how many TMLs are purchased so far this year? How many will be joing later? Also it is good to see competition for AL in TNSTC, now AL wont be able to take TNSTC for a ride...as they have choices. Now there is huge inventory with all the OEMs (TM & AL), RTC s who dont have to worry about money could get a better deal now.
Most of the 1512c are deployed in city bus routes and short distance routes. Even the short distance intercity TML buses downgraded as city buses so soon compared to AL. Some of the older 1512c city buses with TNSTC-Coimbatore still looks good. But marcos? OMG!

I think TML got 1000 chassis order and heard they delivered most of them. Not sure about the numbers. Still AL is a good choice for our TNSTCs. :cheers:

All 12Ms for SETCs are AL and all BS-4 orders for MTCs were given to AL.
 
#13,112 ·
As far as i know, Volvo, so far sold buses with Annual Maintenance Contract only. Even the Eicher ( Volvo Eicher Commercial Vehicles) buses they sold to APSRTC, they were able to get an annual maintenance contract. AL and TM not able to get AMC from any RTCs except DTC. OEMs will provide AMC only if they purchase fully built buses from them. But RTC buy chasis, and make own body or thru private body builders. More people (Bus OEM, Various Body builders) involved more kickbacks for polititians. So they will never go for fully built buses. But some how Volvo always able to over come this, Looks like their sales/marketing is much better, when compared to AL/TM
Earlier the 12M chassis tender for SETC came up with air suspension for rear axle. After delivery we saw that some of the 12M UDs didnt have Air suspension. So they splitted the tender for XXX reasons? Now some of them got air suspension for the rear axle. Not sure whether they will fit it in all 12M UDs. :)

TN govt said it will be Volvo. But we have to wait until we see them in road. Not sure whether it will be a Volvo or MB. Again Mutli axle or a regular one? :)
 
#13,114 ·
ya sure it is luxura only i forget to say that .i confused that name sorry dhandapanik sir and ignis sir . i heard volvo is getting ready to run. that to busses were readying in bengaluru volvo units so nly i said. but that picture is example for setc volvo i posted .
The image that we are seeing is the one that is present in Volvo website. :)

How can we conclude that Volvo is building buses for SETC? Still we are getting rumours only. :)
 
#13,116 ·
dhandapanik sir
no rumour sir tn govt gng to buy more volvos chasis bus for long route .
in my office the ashok leyland chassis are stock over in company .
now tnstc salem purchase more tata chassis in this year oue survey is saying sir
so nly i said
i too have more volvo want to launch in tamilnadu it is my sujjestion but its not good mileage for our depot .only al chassis giving 6km per disel .
 
#13,117 ·
dhandapanik sir
no rumour sir tn govt gng to buy more volvos chasis bus for long route .
in my office the ashok leyland chassis are stock over in company .
now tnstc salem purchase more tata chassis in this year oue survey is saying sir
so nly i said
i too have more volvo want to launch in tamilnadu it is my sujjestion but its not good mileage for our depot .only al chassis giving 6km per disel .:)
 
#13,118 · (Edited)
Earlier the 12M chassis tender for SETC came up with air suspension for rear axle. After delivery we saw that some of the 12M UDs didnt have Air suspension. So they splitted the tender for XXX reasons? Now some of them got air suspension for the rear axle. Not sure whether they will fit it in all 12M UDs. :)

TN govt said it will be Volvo. But we have to wait until we see them in road. Not sure whether it will be a Volvo or MB. Again Mutli axle or a regular one? :)

as u said there is confusion are there regarding VOLVO. last week news said, officers are busy with selecting company(i.e VOLVO or MB).so we have to wait till see them on road.
 
#13,119 ·
one thing i really dont understand about TN s mileage concept. as mentioned here if a bus is giving 6 km/lr then it should run atleast 4 times the profit of a private operated bus.
as private operators have to pay per seat base tax + diesel at regular price (where are govt gets a discounted price).

If a private travel with no mileage restriction can run in profit i think tn should come down in its mileage standard and attract more passengers from pvt operators.
 
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