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Old Yesterday, 02:01 AM   #13501
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SriLankan Airlines Loving Melbourne!

The newly launched route to Melbourne had been a "resounding success," the release said, achieving a Passenger Load Factor of 92.4% and recording a significant overall profit during the month.

"This makes Melbourne the first long-haul route launch of the airline in recent years to reach profitability in such a short period, the release said.

http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_...e_title=178495
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Old Yesterday, 02:09 AM   #13502
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SriLankan Airlines Loving Melbourne!

The newly launched route to Melbourne had been a "resounding success," the release said, achieving a Passenger Load Factor of 92.4% and recording a significant overall profit during the month.

"This makes Melbourne the first long-haul route launch of the airline in recent years to reach profitability in such a short period, the release said.

http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_...e_title=178495
Who wouldnít love Melbourne!

Thatís a fantastic result too and to be honest quite surprised at their quick success... no wonder they were beating on our door!
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Old Yesterday, 02:52 AM   #13503
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Yep, agree with you.

Itís going to be really interesting to see how it all pans out with a prospective 60 million pax through MEL in 15 years time on current trends. Looks like T2 will do circa 12 million with just 15 gates (plus bussing) in calendar year 2018. Not sure that is sustainable.
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Something will have to be done soon or there will be issues taking new services.

The peak periods are extending out further, leaving only limited window that flights will soon be able to be added to.

As alluded to earlier though, airlines are hesitant to pay more for expansion. That will mean the airport will have to fund it and may not be able to increase charges in line with that expenditure. It is a balancing act, especially for some of the shareholders that expect better returns from their investment.

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Who wouldn’t love Melbourne!

That’s a fantastic result too and to be honest quite surprised at their quick success... no wonder they were beating on our door!
A friend told me the other day that her friends are now using UL’s services to get to India which seems to be a big advantage for this service.

It’s great to see UL do well, as I had feared they were over stretching themselves going daily on the route from the start.

I think the next move for UL will be to add SYD to their network.
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Old Yesterday, 07:49 AM   #13505
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Yep, agree with you.

Itís going to be really interesting to see how it all pans out with a prospective 60 million pax through MEL in 15 years time on current trends. Looks like T2 will do circa 12 million with just 15 gates (plus bussing) in calendar year 2018. Not sure that is sustainable.
QF96 passengers forced to bus it to the terminal after a 14hr flight from LAX. Pathetically embarrassing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B7Hm9wAqqs
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QF96 passengers forced to bus it to the terminal after a 14hr flight from LAX. Pathetically embarrassing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B7Hm9wAqqs
Don't be embarrassed. It's not the end of the world. On a recent trip to Europe I had to be bused to the terminal at Helsinki, Frankfurt Main, AND Heathrow (on BA!). Happens all the time.
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Old Yesterday, 09:38 AM   #13507
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QF96 passengers forced to bus it to the terminal after a 14hr flight from LAX. Pathetically embarrassing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B7Hm9wAqqs
It seems like T4 and the Cargo ramp is the de facto second international terminal! BI and JQ 787's get parked at T4 often and international flights are now bussed to and from the cargo ramp in the mornings. There is not enough hard stands in the mornings due to the influx of new flights, there use to be a gap between the morning peak and the afternoon peak, but now its just one big peak period. The main problem is that there are more morning arrivals than departures, you got SQ, MH, EY, EK, BI, VA, QF, JQ parking planes for afternoon departures, so these planes take up all the ramp space. However this does not address why T2 is not being expanded, since the gates at the terminal are full from flights with quicker turn around times, no one is hogging any of the gates - simply put T2 needs to be expanded ASAP.

Personally, I think APAC are just shooting themselves in the foot. Airlines have already said publicly that they are not satisfied and happy with the current operations at the airport due to old and inadequate infrastructure. The international terminal should be a project of state significance, it is the main gateway for Victoria to the international community, it generates billions for the state economy every year and yet its being overlooked and pushed aside.

As Melbourne gets more prominent as an international destinations for business and leisure and the turn of the Asian century, airlines will be flocking to the city, and sadly we aren't prepared for it.
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QF96 passengers forced to bus it to the terminal after a 14hr flight from LAX. Pathetically embarrassing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B7Hm9wAqqs
Bus Gates are pretty much a regular occurrence almost worldwide. Pretty much due to most cities worldwide failing to keep up with growth.

On a related note: One of the early VA flights from HKG parked at the VA domestic terminal and passengers had to be bussed from there to immigration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL8PVv8qWgI
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We have been spoilt over the years with having aerobridge access for nearly every flight, which makes it harder to handle for many having to use bus gates.

Much of the rest of the world doesn’t really have the same hang ups about it but i do understand that it’s never fun having to walk out on a cold and rainy morning to end a trip.

Try walking out from a plane at Vienna in minus 2 degrees and snowing in a T-shirt though. That was a lesson learnt to ensure that you handluggage contains the right clothes for the weather at the other end of the flight just in case it’s a bus gate. How fun that was...

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It seems like T4 and the Cargo ramp is the de facto second international terminal! BI and JQ 787's get parked at T4 often and international flights are now bussed to and from the cargo ramp in the mornings. There is not enough hard stands in the mornings due to the influx of new flights, there use to be a gap between the morning peak and the afternoon peak, but now its just one big peak period. The main problem is that there are more morning arrivals than departures, you got SQ, MH, EY, EK, BI, VA, QF, JQ parking planes for afternoon departures, so these planes take up all the ramp space. However this does not address why T2 is not being expanded, since the gates at the terminal are full from flights with quicker turn around times, no one is hogging any of the gates - simply put T2 needs to be expanded ASAP.

Personally, I think APAC are just shooting themselves in the foot. Airlines have already said publicly that they are not satisfied and happy with the current operations at the airport due to old and inadequate infrastructure. The international terminal should be a project of state significance, it is the main gateway for Victoria to the international community, it generates billions for the state economy every year and yet its being overlooked and pushed aside.

As Melbourne gets more prominent as an international destinations for business and leisure and the turn of the Asian century, airlines will be flocking to the city, and sadly we aren't prepared for it.
The reality is that airlines are still fairly satisfied because they aren’t paying more. If the airport invests, costs will go up and they will be passed onto the airlines.

That’s why the next terminal (T5) is likely to be more of a low cost design in my view, which will lower the cost to build and operate, giveing the airport a lower risk option to their stakeholders. It will follow on from T4 and give airlines choice on which terminal to operate from depending on their level of service expectations.

No idea if it will pan out that way, but judging by the way that the airlines tend to be, it would likely be a solution that will satisfy the finance teams
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I haven't really given it much thought before now but I can't really see bus gates being sustainable in the longer term in most cases.

Obviously they are a generally slower and more unpleasant experience for the passenger and I think in many cases the passenger will associate this experience with the airline rather than the airport. This is particularly true for the lucrative passengers in F or J where walking across the tarmac in cold or rain in not really commensurate to the effort put in to their customer experience in other aspects of the journey. Obviously there is some connection between an airline's brand image and the airports they fly to, otherwise they would all choose the cheaper no frills options. Why fly to LHR when you could fly to STN?

That is aside from the issues related to passengers with reduced mobility, air side security and safety. At other airports I have seen, for example, deplanning passengers run on to other parts of the apron in pursuit of their hat caught in the wind.
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BITRE NOV DOMESTIC STATS

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/on...ember_2017.pdf

MEL up 3.7% and over 80,000 pax compared to Nov 2016. 21.4% of ttl Australian domestic pax - an upward trend. CNS-MEL was the only MEL route to show a decline.

SYD was up 3.3% and up just under 80,000.
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Old Today, 05:51 AM   #13512
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AirServices Australia November 2017 Stats

http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/...ember-2017.pdf

MEL exceeded 20,000 again in Nov 2017... up about 730 movements from Nov 2016.

But the big news is.... Moorabbin became the #1 airport in Australia with 29,614 movements. Pipped SYD which slipped to #2 with 29,344 movements.

Again.... what's going on at Moorrabbin... up over 10,000 movements from Nov 2016?

Is this the first month ever when SYD is not #1?

Bankstown was the only other airport to exceed 20,000 in the month.
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