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Old January 9th, 2018, 07:17 PM   #3641
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Even a Mehran or its look alike are acceptable, if they sell it at around Rs. 5 lac or less.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 05:54 PM   #3642
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I started the Hyundai Nishat Motors article on Wiki. Feel free to add more information as it becomes available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Nishat_Motors

Haven't started Kia Lucky or Renault Pakistan articles yet until an official website is up. Otherwise, Wiki will probably delete it.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 06:34 PM   #3643
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I was going through the wiki article on automotive industry in Pakistan and realised that united motors isn't mentioned in the manufacturers list, they're the second largest motorcycle producer after atlas so if you get the time do add them. Also, Al haj faw motors article needs some improvement.

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Old January 10th, 2018, 06:49 PM   #3644
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Also, on the Automotive Industry of Pakistan article, I changed the picture from Mehran to Corolla, since its now the most produced car in Pakistan. Also updated the 2017 production stats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automo...ry_in_Pakistan

Also started Karakoram Motors...surprised, it has a very long history. Began production in 1962 under Kandewala Industries, renamed to Naya Daur Motors in 1972 and then in 2003 was taken over by Mecom and named Karakoram.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakoram_Motors

Also, does anyone have information on what the hell Pakistan Automobile Corporation (PACO) is or if it even still exists? All I know is that under Bhutto in 1972, all the car companies were essentially nationalized under PACO. In the 90s following some deregulation happened and some companies went private, but most are supposedly still under this PACO?

Amazes me how the internet and websites are still a foreign concept to the old buddays still running our country. There are many old companies which I have no idea what happened.


Other companies which I have no clue what happened

National Motors
> Opened in 1952 in conjunction with General Motors who arranged the facilities for the production of Vauxhall cars and Bedford trucks
> Present status: No clue

Ali Automobiles
> Opened in 1952 in conjunction with Ford Motors
> Renamed to Awami Motors in 1972
> Present status: No clue

Haroon Industries
> Opened in 1956 and partnered with Dodge Motors
> Renamed to Republic Motors in 1972
> Present status: No clue

Wazir Ali Engineering
> Opened in 1962 and partnered with Lambretta to begin production of the Lambretta TV200 scooters
> Renamed to Sindh Engineering in 1972
> Present status: No clue

Hye Sons
> Opened in 1962 and began production of Mack Trucks.
> Renamed to Mack Trucks Pakistan in 1972
> Present status: No clue

Raja Auto Cars
> Opened in 1965 to begin production of the famous Vespa scooters and rickshaws
> Present status: No clue

Jaffer Industries
> Opened in 1965
> Renamed to Trailer Development Corporation in 1972
> Present status: No clue

Mannoo Motors
> Opened in 1965
> Present status: No clue


There are some companies which I know went bust. For example, Saif Nadeem Kawasaki (those motorcycles were beautiful by the way) and Adam Motors. The rest have either been renamed or merged, but I don't know which company. I suspect Ali Auto (Awami Motors) was taken over by Pak Suzuki in the 1990s.

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I was going through the wiki article on automotive industry in Pakistan and realised that united motors isn't mentioned in the manufacturers list, they're the second largest motorcycle producer after atlas so if you get the time do add them. Also, Al haj faw motors article needs some improvement.

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I know...the problem is this companies lack intelligence when it comes to marketing. No proper website, no proper social media presence, nothing. United is indeed very large, but they are run by old buddays who are still living in the 1970s it seems. I'll try and get those articles done today...it'll take some time getting sources, but I think I'll muster something up.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 06:52 PM   #3645
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Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I read that United renamed themselves from United Motorcycles to United Motors. Now, if I were to start an article on United Motors and use this (http://unitedmotorcycle.com.pk/) as the official website, the article would be flagged.

Any other mature company with a proper marketing and sales department would have changed the URL much earlier.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 07:07 PM   #3646
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I can understand, most of local auto manufacturers have pre historic websites that offer no info at all and its very difficult to get it from elsewhere. Commercial vehicle manufacturers especially have useless af websites that were last updated years ago!

Another request here

http://dysin.com.pk

add them too, they're now assembling some of the models and doing some fabrication and paint work too. Their website though not perfect, but is still quite better than other commercial vehicle manufacturers.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 07:26 PM   #3647
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@rayaan unfortunately after the nationalisation and other stuff during Bhutto era manufacturing in sectors like these completely died. Before that Pakistan was even developing its own vehicle brand "Nishaan" which manufactured a 4x4 with every component made in pakistan even the engine. The vehicle was presented to president Ayub and my uncle was a part of project, times magazine predicted that pakistan will rule the middle East market after the development of that brand (can't seem to find that article now) but unfortunately the project was suspended after Bhutto govt came, all the units manufacturing vehicles of international companies were nationalised. After Bhutto, Zia era came and eventually Pakistan's image became of an unstable country where no auto manufacturer wants to invest heavily in actual manufacturing.

I just remembered this was done by naya daur motors as well! Unfortunately they met a bad fate.

As for raja motors their plant is most probably lying in dust somewhere, they manufactured fiat cars for sometime after ending vespa production.

here's their website with a picture of their car and their MD -,-

http://www.rajamotorcompany.com

And here's the "about us" part

http://www.rajamotorcompany.com/about_us.html
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Old January 11th, 2018, 04:19 AM   #3648
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Also, does anyone have information on what the hell Pakistan Automobile Corporation (PACO) is or if it even still exists? All I know is that under Bhutto in 1972, all the car companies were essentially nationalized under PACO. In the 90s following some deregulation happened and some companies went private, but most are supposedly still under this PACO?
Pak Suzuki Motor Company limited however, was officially formed in August 1983 as a joint venture between Pakistan Automobile Corporation Limited (PACO, represented by the Government of Pakistan) and Suzuki Motor Corporation (SMC) Japan. The company started commercial production in 1984 and was privatized in September 1992 while SMC progressively increased its equity thus acquiring the stake of PACO. The company today is the largest player in the industry with over 50% market-share and a virtual monopoly in the ever growing small car market.

PACO is defunct since the early 90s. I did a piece on Pakwheels long ago: here is the link

https://www.pakwheels.com/blog/suzuk...-1970-to-2016/
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Old January 11th, 2018, 11:22 AM   #3649
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Car sales rev up 20% to 19,237 units in Dec



KARACHI:
Sales of locally assembled automobiles, including jeeps and light commercial vehicles, jumped to 19,237 units in December 2017, up 20% compared with 16,042 units in the same month of the previous year, showed data released by the Pakistan Automotive Manufacturers Association (PAMA) on Wednesday.

Cumulatively, industry sales during the first six months (July to December) of fiscal year 2018 exhibited 27% growth to 124,138 units compared with 97,533 units in the same period of last year.

The change in import procedure in October 2017 has led to a decline in used car imports while rising demand from online ride-hailing services has also contributed to a strong demand in December 2017, according to a Topline Securities report issued on Wednesday. Pak Suzuki continues to be the major beneficiary as majority of used car imports fall under the smaller-engine segment.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1605359...237-units-dec/
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Old January 11th, 2018, 04:25 PM   #3650
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We might see the replacement in shape of an Alto; not sure if Pak Suzuki will retain the name Mehran or change it with Alto. Considering that didn’t happen in case of other new Suzuki vehicles like the new Cultus, so let us see.


No official news but as per tipster, Pak Suzuki will transplant the engine out of Mehran into the new Alto. This means you will NOT see a 660cc engine (NA/Turbo) as its seen in other markets. The replacement hatchback will get the same 796cc engine in the new Alto [or whatever name they choose for it].

There is no possibility of an automatic transmission as of now, but we might see a new 5-speed manual.

Another important piece of information that we have received is that the carmaker has already assembled a handful units of the new car. The exact number is unknown but according to our insider around 50 units have been prepared for various testing and showcasing purposes.

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Bear in mind the new Alto has already been spotted in an official Pak Suzuki capacity. You can check the photos and details in the link mentioned above.

Although we may see the new shape and maybe a new name, the legendary Mehran will still remain alive with us.

Again this post is an unofficial statement/opinion on the basis of available information which may or may not hold true. We will see what happens when actual comes into the light. Stay tuned to PakWheels for more new Alto related information.

Disclaimer: The blog is based on information made available to us by various sources. For now these should be taken with a pinch of salt until unless official statement comes out.
https://www.pakwheels.com/blog/alto-...-800cc-engine/
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Old January 12th, 2018, 10:58 AM   #3651
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Car sales in December 2017

- Honda cars: 2,464
- Toyota cars: 3,807
- Suzuki Swift: 381

- Suzuki Cultus: 1,499
- Suzuki WagonR: 2,758
- Suzuki Mehran: 3,390

- Honda BRV: 749
- Toyota Fortuner: 230
- Toyota Hilux: 539

Increase in WagonR sales (because Cultus is way expensive). Other than that, the usual December stuff...usually sell sales due to year end. Will continue with similar trend until someone else joins the club.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:00 PM   #3652
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/267...or-in-pakistan


Japan plans to expand and diversify Pakistan's automobile sector and create an export base.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 01:15 AM   #3653
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Cars Production Rises 19% In First Half Of 2017-18

ISLAMABAD, Jan 12 (APP):The production of cars in the country increased by 19.46 percent during first half (July-December) of 2017-18 compared to same period of the preceding year as during the period under review, 107,787 cars were manufactured in the country against manufacturing of 90,222 units during same period of last year.

The production of cars during December 2017 also increased by 9.72 percent and 2.92 percent when compared with the production during December 2016 and November 2017 respectively.

According to data released by Pakistan Automobile Manufacturers Association (PAMA) on Friday, as many as 16,598 cars were manufactured in December 2017 as compared to 15,127 units in December 2016 and 16,127 units in November 2017.

The breakup figures show that 19,573 units of Honda civic and city were manufactured during Jul-Dec 2017-18 as compared to the production of 16,342 units during the same period of the preceding year.
Similarly Suzuki Swift also witnessed a growth of 9.94 percent as its production rose to 2,466 units in the fist half of current fiscal year from 2,243 units in Jul-Dec 2016-17.

Toyota Corolla cars’ production, however, witnessed the negative growth of 2.58 percent as it went down to 25,102 units in July-December 2017-18 from 25,768 units in same period of previous year.

Similarly, the manufacturing of Suzuki Cultus rose to 9,984 units in the period under review whereas, during the same period last year, the production was recorded at 9,195 units.

The production of Suzuki Wagon R witnessed a sharp increase of 100 percent to 15,670 units from 7,807 units in the period July-December 2016-17.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 12:57 PM   #3654
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Auto sales register slowdown in Dec



LAHORE - As per latest data released by Pakistan Automotive Manufacturers Association (PAMA), total auto sales saw a slowdown in Dec 2017, with all passenger cars sales declining by 6 percent monthly. Amongst LCVs segment, only Hilux (up 1 percent MoM) saw positive growth in sales , while sales for BR-V and Ravi declined by 40 percent and 13 percent MoM, respectively.

Experts said the year-end factor led to the broad-based decline in sales on monthly basis, whereby sales for all three OEMs (down 14 percent, 28 percent for INDU, HCAR, respectively, while PSMC saw a meager growth of 1 percent) took a hit during the month. On the other hand, Dec’17 saw HCVs’ sales growth of 6 percent MoM, maintaining its strong momentum on the back of increased construction activities, however, sales for tractor dipped 11 percent MoM. Going forward, it is expected the sales would recover from Jan 2018 onwards due to new year effect. On a cumulative basis, 1HFY18 numbers remained healthy for auto sector sales , with total sales growing (up 27 percent YoY). HCAR outperformed with 50 percent YoY increase. PSMC followed with a 32 percent YoY growth in sales , driven by 34 percent YoY growth in Cultus (new model launch), 29 percent in Mehran and 87 percent in Wagon-R.

Pak Suzuki’s sales are up 29 percent in Dec 2017 thanks to hefty 100 percent/22 percent/15 percent YoY growth in Wagon-R, Mehran and new Cultus sales , respectively. Honda Car sales were up 33 percent YoY mainly due to absence of BR-V model last year.

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IMC suspends Hilux Revo 3.0

Indus Motor Company (IMC) has temporarily suspended the production of flagship Toyota Hilux Revo with 3.0 liter intercooler turbo engine. In addition the Fortuner 2.7 VVti is also suspended which will soon be replaced by the 2.8 liter Diesel version.

According to insider reports, IMC will reprogram the ECU in order to tackle the issues with this engine, else the 3.0 liter 1KD-FTV engine that comes with the Revo might be permanently discontinued in favor of the 2.8 liter 1GD-FTV Diesel which will soon be offered with the new 2018 Fortuner SUV.

http://www.carspiritpk.com/2018/01/1...ily-suspended/

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Pakistan allows shipment of banned auto parts to Kabul



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Pakistan has allowed the shipment of banned spare parts of Toyota vehicles, which had already reached its seaport, from Karachi to Kabul for the United Nations mission in the neighbouring country.

Though the transit trade agreement between Pakistan and Afghanistan does not have any negative list of goods, the Ministry of Commerce has imposed restrictions on the flow of automobile products through land, sea and air routes in an effort to stop their smuggling.

The ministry, however, permits the shipment of auto parts to Afghanistan in some cases. Talking to The Express Tribune, a senior government official said spare parts of Toyota vehicles had already been brought to Karachi though there were curbs on their shipment to Kabul.

The United Nations Assistance Mission exerted pressure on the Pakistan government, arguing that these goods had reached Karachi Port and they were forced to pay demurrage cost due to delay in their clearance, he said.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1609596...o-parts-kabul/
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Used cars create gridlock at Karachi port

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Over 7,000 imported used cars are lined up at the Karachi port waiting to be picked up, while an equal number will reach in a few days, creating problems for port authorities to handle the cargo and the situation.

Importers, unwilling to pick up their cargo, say the gridlock at the port is a result of government measures taken in October to reduce car imports.

They claimed that Customs authorities do not have the finalised payment mechanism under which importers could get their cargo cleared. However, sources say that importers are willingly not picking up their cargo as they expect the government to retreat from its measures taken in October.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1609599...-karachi-port/
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Old January 16th, 2018, 04:51 PM   #3658
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Gandhara nissan has finally managed to get rid of their obsolete website

https://ghandharanissan.com.pk
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Old January 17th, 2018, 07:42 PM   #3659
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https://ghandharanissan.com.pk
Great news. Let's all welcome Ghandara Nissan to 1999.

On a more serious note, good to see. They also have both English and Urdu on the website, which is the way it's supposed to be.
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