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Old May 5th, 2014, 07:40 AM   #341
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Old May 5th, 2014, 09:30 AM   #342
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Was it mentioned in the tender document that CRLe will be constructed first?
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Old May 5th, 2014, 09:47 AM   #343
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Old May 6th, 2014, 08:08 AM   #344
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Ok. Didnt noticed about the CRLe and CRLw. May I know why the CRLe will be build before CRLw?

I would thought it will be other way round because TP, Keppel and Brani PSA port will have to move to Tuas before 2027 so it might be more critical for CRLw to be up an running first.
Why would an MRT line be critical to the new deep-water port in Tuas, especially when Singapore's now the world's 8th busiest port and dropping, FAST. The only reason why CRLw might be constructed first would be for the high-speed rail station but obviously, the authorities don't think the CRL would contribute much to the HSR and v.v. given the decision to build CRLe first.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 01:27 PM   #345
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I don't think the "extend westwards" and "terminate" language in 1.1.3 of the tender document give much basis for believing that CRLe will be built before CRLw. That language just describes the limits of CRLw. The fact that CRLe is listed before CRLw gives at least as much evidence, in my opinion. I think we need to wait for stronger evidence before jumping to premature conclusions.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 04:51 PM   #346
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There are more evidences across the entire tender doc... eg.. earlier submission of deliverables for CRLe compared to CRLw, immediate availability of the site locations for the depot at CRLe compared to CRLw.

Furthermore, there is another tender C1003 called 3 weeks ago, which stipulates the requirement to provide topo survey for the 3 areas each 120+ ha in size - "200m wide corridor located in the eastern part of Singapore", so far there has been no news about any topo survey required for the western part.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 07:39 PM   #347
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There are more evidences across the entire tender doc... eg.. earlier submission of deliverables for CRLe compared to CRLw, immediate availability of the site locations for the depot at CRLe compared to CRLw.

Furthermore, there is another tender C1003 called 3 weeks ago, which stipulates the requirement to provide topo survey for the 3 areas each 120+ ha in size - "200m wide corridor located in the eastern part of Singapore", so far there has been no news about any topo survey required for the western part.
That is much more persuasive evidence.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 03:09 PM   #348
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Would it be possible for both the direct crossing and skirting alignments to be built together, such that the direct alignment functions as the express MRT service tracks while the skirting alignment serves the regular MRT services?
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Old May 10th, 2014, 01:51 AM   #349
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Massive soil investigation work along Clementi Ave 4 from Clementi MRT area to Sunset Way. Does it point to possible CRL will run along this area?
If you look close enough, you will realise that it is for PUB actually.
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Old May 11th, 2014, 02:30 AM   #350
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If you look close enough, you will realise that it is for PUB actually.
they could be doing upgrading and realignment
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Old July 4th, 2014, 11:00 AM   #351
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ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES MANAGEMENT TO ASSESS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF CROSS ISLAND LINE

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The Land Transport Authority (LTA) has appointed Environmental Resources Management (S) Pte Ltd (ERM) to carry out the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) for the portion of the Cross Island Line (CRL) around the Central Catchment Nature Reserve (CCNR).

2 ERM, a global provider of environmental, health, safety, risk and social consulting services, has put together a team of highly qualified specialists to undertake the EIA study. The team, who have conducted similar EIA studies for transport projects in places such as United Kingdom, includes a biodiversity arm that has a good understanding of Singapore’s environment.

3 The EIA study of the CCNR and its surrounding areas will start immediately. In Phase 1 of the study, the Consultant will conduct a baseline study of the existing ecosystem and the physical conditions along the various alignment options. The Consultant will also be required to provide a mapping of habitats, assess the impact of proposed soil investigation works and recommend guidelines and appropriate mitigating measures prior to carrying out any activities in the CCNR. In Phase 2, the consultant will focus on assessing the potential impact to the CCNR during the construction and train operations. It will also propose mitigation measures during these stages. The EIA report is targeted for completion in 2016 and will assist the Government in making a considered decision on the eventual CRL alignment.

4 Mr Chew Hock Yong, LTA’s Chief Executive, said, “Since the commencement of this project, stakeholders and interested parties such as the nature and residents groups have provided us with valuable inputs. We will continue to engage them as the project progresses. The government will take into account these views, the findings from the EIA, as well as other factors such as connectivity, travel times, costs and land use compatibility, when deciding on the CRL alignment that will best serve the community.”

About the Cross Island Line (CRL)

5 The CRL was announced in January 2013 as part of the Government’s rail infrastructure expansion plan to double the rail network in Singapore by 2030. With a more extensive rail network, commuters will have more choices when travelling by public transport. Targeted for completion by 2030, the 50-km CRL will enhance connectivity between the east/north-east and the west of Singapore and provide commuters with an alternative to the current East-West Line. In addition, it will connect to major radial lines to serve as a key transfer line, complementing the role currently fulfilled by the orbital Circle Line. This will relieve the load on several of our existing lines, bringing greater comfort to all commuters and shortening journey times. The CRL is also a critical component of our plans to enable eight in 10 households to be within a 10-minute walk of a train station by year 2030.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 11:51 AM   #352
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ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES MANAGEMENT TO ASSESS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF CROSS ISLAND LINE

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Let's hope this would appeal the environmentalists if it found to be OK to build through the forest...
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Old July 4th, 2014, 12:03 PM   #353
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I would say that hopefully the suggestions made will be comprehensive enough to reduce impact of the direct route on the CNR on all fronts, while at the same time study and dive into the aspects of macro-environment for the alternative route, highlighting the impact of the alternative route on the CNR and surrounding natural environment.
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Old July 5th, 2014, 06:19 PM   #355
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I would say that hopefully the suggestions made will be comprehensive enough to reduce impact of the direct route on the CNR on all fronts, while at the same time study and dive into the aspects of macro-environment for the alternative route, highlighting the impact of the alternative route on the CNR and surrounding natural environment.
Who will be paying the specialists for the EIA? LTA?
If LTA is paying these EIA team for the work, won't the suggestions by the team be influenced by LTA?
Any one in its logical mind (putting aside the interest groups) will choose the direct route under the catchment area.

A very strange way of doing things in Spore.
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It's not strange. Singaporeans are finally becoming more vested in what the government does, and it's quite typical of developed nations. Of course, the direct route is the most logical but it's likely to be the most controversial and one wrong misstep may be a cause for unprecedented political shake ups. So, it's understandable that the government is taking careful steps to ensure the public is placated.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 04:15 AM   #357
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so who do you propose should fund the study? Ministry of Transport, the Prime Minister's Office (whose interests are going to mirror the LTA) or the Nature Society? if you were to look at the recent committees formed and studies conducted, they were given enough leeway to explore unorthodox options (at least within the scope afforded by the terms of reference) and I think it shows in the suggestions made.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 11:54 AM   #358
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so who do you propose should fund the study?
The taxpayers.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 12:27 PM   #359
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The ministry which is going to benefit most from any new MRT line will be MND, which has URA, NPark, BCA, HDB under them.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 02:30 AM   #360
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Saw 2 SI rig along PIE in the direction of Tuas right before Bukit Timah flyover. Wonder if this has got anything to do with CRL?
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