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Old October 8th, 2008, 05:51 PM   #61
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Hi TJ kamusta na? We are both okay. It's shearwalls, sometimes new construction use this because they want to maximize space in each floor (columns and beams take so much of the vertical and horizontal spaces). Instead of the typical column and beam construction with the masonry block walls to take care of the lateral loads, with shearwall concept, the design will make use of the shear walls to carry both dead loads and lateral loads. In this case there will be less columns and beams in this design, there will be more walls (poured in place concrete or possibly gunite and well reinforced) to carry both dead and lateral loads. Walls and slabs will be thicker.
addition: shearwall is required for seismic(earthquake) design for highrise buildings. its main function is to resist lateral loads such as seismic(earthquake) and wind load. dugay na ni nga technology or system... got to see most of the buildings sa AITP, the're using this special system.

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Old October 8th, 2008, 06:25 PM   #62
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wow! shear and moment.. flashback dayon nako akong strength of materials subject.. LOL
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Old October 8th, 2008, 08:26 PM   #63
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i believe this style of building is used in Taiwan. kasi walang main columns ang mga structures dun.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:24 PM   #64
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wow! shear and moment.. flashback dayon nako akong strength of materials subject.. LOL
@rau, arki ka noh? no wonder "shear and moment" ra dayon imo reaction...
yah basically, have to do a bit of that during design. But a shear wall would only refer to
a structural member that can resist lateral loads like quakes and wind... sometimes it will also be designed to also carry gravity loads.

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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:37 PM   #65
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i believe this style of building is used in Taiwan. kasi walang main columns ang mga structures dun.
not only taiwan bai, also pinas... and all other earthquake prone countries.
as said, its main purpose is to resist earthquake and wind forces.

This is commonly used in midrise & highrise buildings.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #66
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maayo unta pud nga pareha sa taiwan kapaspas ang pag construct ani. 8 months lang top off na ang structure.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 05:26 PM   #67
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kwarta ra gyud ang makatubag ana bai...hehe! ..pero, according pa sa akong migo diri sa Riyadh, the reason kuno why "hinay" ang construction sa Pilipinas, tungod ang mga semento nga gibaligya diha sa atoa ka'y puros kuno adulterated or mix with anapog or harina..that's why kuno maong dugay mo-uga ang semento and it takes time para sa construction...hehehe! ...secondly, after one month, makita kuno dayon ang mga cracks kay dili kuno maayo ang quality sa semento sa atoa...heheh! ...unsa'y tan-aw ninyo...na-a ba siya'y point? hehe!
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Old October 9th, 2008, 05:33 PM   #68
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maayo unta pud nga pareha sa taiwan kapaspas ang pag construct ani. 8 months lang top off na ang structure.

"not only taiwan bai, also pinas... "
example. 17F i3 Building, topped off after 8.5 months...
(consider 0.5 month for christmas - new year break)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=538584

started july last year, topped off mid-march this year.
just don't believe pinoys can't do it...
by the way, taga-taiwan ka or taiwanese ka? hehehe...

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kwarta ra gyud ang makatubag ana bai...hehe! ..pero, according pa sa akong migo diri sa Riyadh, the reason kuno why "hinay" ang construction sa Pilipinas, tungod ang mga semento nga gibaligya diha sa atoa ka'y puros kuno adulterated or mix with anapog or harina..that's why kuno maong dugay mo-uga ang semento and it takes time para sa construction...hehehe! ...secondly, after one month, makita kuno dayon ang mga cracks kay dili kuno maayo ang quality sa semento sa atoa...heheh! ...unsa'y tan-aw ninyo...na-a ba siya'y point? hehe!
Bai, can't say that... every designed concrete has its own maturity time to gain its designed strength. say 4000 psi @7days, there is also 4000 psi @14days... depende ra jud na sa design bai, standard jud na. Diri sa pinas, some ISO accredited ready mixed concrete companies are using ACI(American Concrete Institute) code. so dili ka makaingon nga lahi didto ug diri cause naa standard ana internationally.

Remember, naa bya ta ISO accreditated nga ready mixed concrete company dinhe sa Cebu... Be proud to be a Cebuano bai.

I think, ang kapaspas sa trabaho will always depend on the availability of equipment, manpower and new innovative technology sa construction... Correct me if I am wrong.

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Old October 9th, 2008, 06:27 PM   #70
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mao bitaw nga mura ko'g gigitik sa iyang comment...akong huna-huna ka'y nag-joke lang siya pero seryoso kaayo'g nawong...hehe.. pero he said, he seen it daw sa Reporter's Notebook sa GMA 7? ...ang topic was about anang semento nga adulterated...they found a huge cement warehouse in Luzon nga ang tinuod nga sako nga semento can be reproduced into 5 sacks using anapog or harina...hehehe...siguro, this is an isolated case lang...
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"not only taiwan bai, also pinas... "
example. 17F i3 Building, topped off after 8.5 months...
(consider 0.5 month for christmas - new year break)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=538584

started july last year, topped off mid-march this year.
just don't believe pinoys can't do it...
by the way, taga-taiwan ka or taiwanese ka? hehehe...
heheehe
dili ko taiwanese
but i worked in taiwan for 2 years thats why i saw the differences. but if nahimo na na karon. then that is a good news.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 05:21 AM   #72
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Bai, can't say that... every designed concrete has its own maturity time to gain its designed strength. say 4000 psi @7days, there is also 4000 psi @14days... depende ra jud na sa design bai, standard jud na. Diri sa pinas, some ISO accredited ready mixed concrete companies are using ACI(American Concrete Institute) code. so dili ka makaingon nga lahi didto ug diri cause naa standard ana internationally.

Remember, naa bya ta ISO accreditated nga ready mixed concrete company dinhe sa Cebu... Be proud to be a Cebuano bai.
for one, the Golden Gate bridge was built with our very own APO Cement.

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I think, ang kapaspas sa trabaho will always depend on the availability of equipments, manpower and new innovative technology sa construction... Correct me if I am wrong.
those equipment, manpower and technology would depend on developer's money. haha

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mao bitaw nga mura ko'g gigitik sa iyang comment...akong huna-huna ka'y nag-joke lang siya pero seryoso kaayo'g nawong...hehe.. pero he said, he seen it daw sa Reporter's Notebook sa GMA 7? ...ang topic was about anang semento nga adulterated...they found a huge cement warehouse in Luzon nga ang tinuod nga sako nga semento can be reproduced into 5 sacks using anapog or harina...hehehe...siguro, this is an isolated case lang...
really? harina? flour? i wonder if a building built by it, if it gets burnt, will it turn into a giant pandesal?

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ang katong case sa cement nga gisagulan is isolated to. namentaha ra ang katong naninda ug semento. pero wa na saguli ang semento gikan sa factory. i-repack ra atong intsik para makakwarta. kita ko ato nga episode, sa Imbestigador to!
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heheh... I'm sure, isolated case lang na.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #75
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@rau, arki ka noh? no wonder "shear and moment" ra dayon imo reaction...
yah basically, have to do a bit of that during design. But a shear wall would only refer to
a structural member that can resist lateral loads like quakes and wind... sometimes it will also be designed to also carry gravity loads.
dili ko arki ui..naa lang ko subject ana pag college..
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Old October 10th, 2008, 05:16 PM   #76
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dili ko arki ui..naa lang ko subject ana pag college..
engineering? i think only architecture and engineering lang naa subject ana. correct me if naa pa lain...
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Old October 15th, 2008, 04:42 PM   #78
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i took this picture but credit goes to Jarenz of Soronio Realty Group, who was granted permission by the VP.

Official rendering of the Citiloft Condominium Tower

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i took this picture but credit goes to Jarenz of Soronio Realty Group, who was granted permission by the VP.

Official rendering of the Citiloft Condominium Tower


Thanks bay. At last naa na gyud.
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i was only using my cam phone, this printout was on the VP for Marketing's desk. i think this would be the first time a rendering is posted online. basta, si jarenz ra jud nagpananghid ani. wa koy labot ani ha. igo ra ko ni upload. hehe
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