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Old January 3rd, 2005, 10:18 PM   #1
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UPDATE on Skyscraper in Frederikshavn / DENMARK

Well I happened to stumble over a few Threads on this forum concerning the Project of the proposed Skyscraper in Frederikshavn / Denmark. A few people requested news and new renderings of the building... Thought I just might keep you "uptodate"!

The project is very much still "Proposed"! Nothing has been approved yet... It is up for pre-approval on the 13th of January 2005 (as far as I remember) in the Municipality (especially concerning shadowdiagrams of the impact on the neighborhood!) This means, that If it gets the pre-approval the planning can start in the coming spring, and if everything goes according to plan (Such as the following neighborhood hearing, the selling of the appartements and such... ) will begin construction in the end of 2005 or in the beginning of 2006! (Hopefully )

Just have to correct a few misunderstandings that I have encountered in the threads dealing with the building! The rendering that has been shown has been taken from a newspaper, that properly has the worst layouters I have ever seen, managing to scew the entire building! So the design doesn't quite look as the design having previously been published here!


Here's the correct rendering from the front (If there is such a thing on this building )...





And another one done from the other side of the building...





Thought I just might add the areaplan, showing the location in the nearest city, since it has been so important in the designprocess that this building could not be build in any other site, having been designed to exactly this site and the dynamics of the region and the city around it...





And last but not least a close-up of the facade...





Hope this was enough to satisfy your curiosity, if not, or if your are interested in making a reservation for one of the appartments... let me know - More than willing to help!!!

(Think I might have uploaded the images in a bigger scale than intended, but I am to tired to change it! Apologize for any inconvenience!)
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 10:40 PM   #2
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im getting a feeling ur somehow involved with this building, its beutiful... Welcome to the forum, these renders are very much appreciated
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 10:53 PM   #3
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wow, the shape of this building is just awesome!
And seems that those annoying orange details are popular not only in Lithuania

Anyway, I really hope this gets built
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 11:20 PM   #4
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I like the design! I was in Frederikshavn this summer, nice little city! Where in the city is it planned? At the harbour?

Oh, and welcome to the forum! Hope you'll like it!
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 11:40 PM   #5
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It does remind somewhat of ET in Vilnius I like it

Hi arkoh, welcome to the forum

I was in Fredrikshavn last winter(A short trip with danskebåten). Where in Fredrikshavn exactly will it be erected? We walked around in some pedestrian streets, but not much more, since only had an hour or two until the ferry left again. While this was early morning in a weekend, Fredrikshavn seemed very quiet and small. We also looked at housing-prices, out of curiosity, they were pretty low. So how can this tower be economically viable?
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 11:56 PM   #6
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Nice architecture, I'd say, although the design lack of something, IMO.

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The tower itself is lookin' awesome, but I find it lacking in urbanity at the base.
Tower-in-a-park has never appealed to me much, I prefer an urban podium.
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Old January 4th, 2005, 02:49 PM   #8
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im getting a feeling ur somehow involved with this building, its beutiful...
Well I guess you could say that... I'm the architect in charge of the design process. So if you have any complaints... I'm the guy to pin to a stick and drag through town!


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We also looked at housing-prices, out of curiosity, they were pretty low. So how can this tower be economically viable?
Frederikshavn is a pretty interestning example of how a City can get stuck in a small bubble in time, having been protected financially by a Major Industry. This Industry has now closed its buisness and the city has been forced to rethink everything - Not only how to create new jobs and how to attract taxpayers, industries, "knowHow" and soforth... but also how to keep the people allready living in the city IN the city!

I wouldn't call it a replacement of the excisting housing mass in Frederikshavn, I would rather call it a supplement! A completely different approach to living in Frederikshavn than what has been available so far, a way to attract taxpayers from neighboring cities. A way to keep up with time, something that the city hasn't really done before! And it shows! - The interest for the project is surprising even me! And the prices of the apartments is showing that it isn't only for the rich and wealthy! It's really for everyone!


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Tower-in-a-park has never appealed to me much, I prefer an urban podium.
It's located in the absolute dead center of town! On the edge of the Town Hall Park, right behind the Town Hall itself! About a few minutes walk from the main pedestrian/shopping street. And yes I agree... I too see problems in isolated towers without an urban attachment, If you do not incorporate the surroundings into the base, that is! I have great confident in that we will succeed in making the building sit rightfully in the green area with the terrassing of the landscape in front and behind it making a solid foundation on which it'll get its "urban attachment"! I believe the landscaping around the tower and the base, will have great influence on how succesfull the building will fit in, and feel right (If you know what I mean!)! More here than in most other cases, linking the low-dense housing area behind it, with the Park instead of makin a barrier between the two! And at the same time, I feel like we have succeeded in making a Landmark/Sculpture and not a residential building as such!


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seems that those annoying orange details are popular not only in Lithuania
The annoying orange details are thought of as a combination between Copper plating and Orange Glas! The top hopefully glowing in the sun as an image of the traditional old danish Light Houses along the coast around the city. May be a bit lame, but nevertheless the idea and I believe It'll look awesome reflecting the setting sun!
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youve done a great job imo!
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So you're the architect? Cool! How long have you worked on this building?
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Old January 4th, 2005, 07:50 PM   #11
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Welcome to the forum, arkoh! It's a genuine pleasure to meet you.

Thank you for your well thought out responses to people's replies. Your arguments sound convincing. I'm particularly pleased with your efforts to tie the building into the existing city environment. Terrassing and landscaping are an excellent way to achieve this.

I wish you well with this project and hope you'll stick around the S&B forum long after it is completed -- there is soo much going on in our remote, dear part of the world!
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Välkommen till forumet!

Always fun/cool/kick-donkey when pros pop in to tell about their work

So, if I understand you cerrectly, the tower will in effect be kinda urban to one side (to the nearest street) and terrassed green-space towards a park that fills the rest of the block? Sounds, well, excellent.
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Yeah i like this building too and the orange colours looks nice IMO.
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Old January 5th, 2005, 01:29 AM   #14
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Excellent design, I like it!

The facade and its small details are very interesting - looks like in Denmark architects have much more freedom than here. For example, in Finland the regulations state that only a certain % of the facade area on a residential building can be glass.

Anyhow, I just wonder how the top of the Frederikshavn tower would actually look like in real life when finished.

I suppose the first few floors will contain retail space?
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Old January 5th, 2005, 02:05 PM   #15
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How long have you worked on this building?
Well Its never really easy to say, now is it!?? You know Back and forth, and especially with a project like this, where the Office I'm working for, isn't being payed for the development of the project! I reckon I have used about 2-3 weeks all in all on the project! Design, meetings, visualizations and so on!!


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So, if I understand you cerrectly, the tower will in effect be kinda urban to one side (to the nearest street) and terrassed green-space towards a park that fills the rest of the block?
Well not precisely, but more or less! It will be a combination between the two, an urban terrassing raising the level of the road up to the level of the building (a differens of some 2 meters), but somehow combined/overlapping with an greener natural terrassing! Hopefully makin the two elements working together instead of against eachother!


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...looks like in Denmark architects have much more freedom than here. For example, in Finland the regulations state that only a certain % of the facade area on a residential building can be glass
Are you sure??? I mean... Denmark used to have those kind of regulations too! But for some years back, we changed to a more flexible approach to the amount of glass in a buildings facade! And when you think of it... it really doesn't make any sense to only look at the percentage of the facade that is glass! I mean... Nowadays, we can produce glass that has the same insulation values as an entire brickwall! It's completely redicules to look at it that way, without takin everthing into consideration! I can hardly believe that the laws are still like that in Finland! For what reason???...

And yes... you're right! The first few floors will contain retail space, shops offices and the like! Hopefully something that'll make the building open, accesible and puplic in the ground floor!


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Anyhow, I just wonder how the top of the Frederikshavn tower would actually look like in real life when finished.
Me too!!! But I am looking forward to figuring it out!!!

Ohhh yeah... and btw... Thanks for all the positive responds!!! This is not what we architects are used to!!! So... I fell kind of lost here!!! Come on guys!!! You can do better... I know you have something awefull to say!!! (That would really make me feel at home!!!)
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how tall was it now?
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Old January 5th, 2005, 04:32 PM   #17
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25 storeys... or more precisely 85 meters!

Not excactly what most other contries would even call a SKYscraper, I know!!!
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85m is excellent! We here tend to take it as a true scraper
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25 storeys... or more precisely 85 meters!

Not excactly what most other contries would even call a SKYscraper, I know!!!

But very tall to be in the Nordics
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Old January 5th, 2005, 06:33 PM   #20
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Thanks for the update!

You've really done a great job with that building, i'm sure that when (not if ) its done, it will be my farvourite danish highrise building.

And, btw, welcome to the forum. I hope you'll stick around for some time.
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