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Old February 6th, 2007, 09:44 PM   #541
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Old February 6th, 2007, 10:11 PM   #542
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I'd like to see some more of the public realm at the base of the tower. Have they completely removed the pedestrian footpath?
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Old February 6th, 2007, 10:12 PM   #543
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That Silver building looks interesting, if a little odd just poking out the side.

And the top floors of the tower look tiny! How can they fit a restuarant up there?
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Old February 6th, 2007, 10:37 PM   #544
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I can't believe how prominent Broadgate Tower is on the skyline from Waterloo Bridge. Totally unacceptable.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 01:55 AM   #545
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Got to admit the more i see of this (Bishopsgate) the less I like it. The south elevation is just plain ugly. I know that I will be in the minority thinking this but no matter- I have grave misgivings about this building. Sorry but I'm starting to hope that it won't go ahead.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 04:44 AM   #546
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So looks like the Corp of London has seen sense & put design application back online.

So whats the difference betweeen this resubmitted design & the previous design with PP. Are there any any obvious differences?? i.e thicker tower etc??
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Old February 7th, 2007, 07:25 AM   #547
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I'm dissapointed with the south elevation too; it looks weird, there is no continuity from the 'collar' to the upper spiral - looks like a stump poking its head out of a hole. Really was a poor decision to reduce the height, the collar should be lower down on the south side. I love the other side though.
Its a pity that this will probably be called in within the week due to Unesco's rantings and Madame Kelly's evil eye. I think we all agree that this tower is nothing compared to LBT; it has nothing of its symetrical beauty; the tower is two-faced, a beauty on one side, a beast on the other; sad really, what a wasted opportunity -- a nice simple tower like the IBC in HK albeit smaller would have been more effective at the end of the day.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 08:41 AM   #548
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wont the south elevation be pretty much hidden by Leadenhall and hence the slight allowance for it to let go? I too feel the height reduction was a mistake but most all buildings in London seem to be a compromise now (actually Leadenhall is about the only buidling where compromise has worked in its favour lol)
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Old February 7th, 2007, 12:09 PM   #549
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Personally I think the tower only 'works' when viewed with 122 Leadenhall and the rest of the future cluster.

The rendering of it on its own makes it look very bland. When it is seen as part of the emerging cluster it's true colours are revealed and it looks majestic.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 12:29 PM   #550
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The revised planning application. Height is unchanged 288m.
There will be a skylobby at floors 31/32. Not clear if publicly available.

Great stuff Jef!

The skylobby is usually the floor where the express lifts go to. You can change lift on 31 and 32 for the top half of the building

Edit: I will try that again...it does not read right.

You can go from ground floor through to floor 30 from one bank of lifts

Another bank of express lifts go straight from the ground to floors 31 and 32. There (The Skylobby) you change to another bank of lifts for floors 33 and upwards. It saves a huge amout of space in the tower.

Floors 31 and 32 may have no office space at all, but some conveneinces/shops or cafes for staff ususally, being a necessary working part of the tower.

Lifts for public areas are almost always separate from worker llifts.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 01:50 PM   #551
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I love it - this is exciting - definately seems a tad more definite.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 08:28 PM   #552
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hmm, it still looks FAR too fat in some perspectives. I'm starting to go off it, I'm afraid.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 10:41 PM   #553
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Ever since i saw the model of it at the RA Summer Exhibition last summer i have thought it looks too dumpy.
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Old February 8th, 2007, 01:44 AM   #554
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When it's built and your stood looking up at it i'm sure people won't be saying it looks stumpy then.People want skyscrapers in london then pick faults with one(a world class scraper at that) that looks like it will go ahead.I think it is a beauty and can't wait to see it rise.
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Old February 8th, 2007, 05:24 AM   #555
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Me neither , by far the most interestings future buildings in the city , just ashame it was reduced in height.
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Old February 8th, 2007, 01:16 PM   #556
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I love this tower, it looks totally amazing and is truly unique. I can't believe anyone on this forum is complaining. Back in 1999 there were no towers proposed and hadn't been any built in 8 years.

Ungrateful bastards!
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Old February 8th, 2007, 01:29 PM   #557
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They might be complaining now, but just wait till it starts rising. They will all absolutely love it
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Old February 8th, 2007, 03:48 PM   #558
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Shame Paris ripped it off with its smaller version that looks pretty much the same, still looks shight in comparison to ours though.
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Old February 8th, 2007, 05:02 PM   #559
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Oh I see.

One person says they don't like it, and suddenly noboddy does.
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Old February 8th, 2007, 05:21 PM   #560
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I don't think it's anything to do with a lack of gratitude. Everybody here wants the best skyscrapers development which is why we all rush to lambast architectural freaks or bland boxes. Bishopsgate is a very good looking tower which certainly does look sleek - from some angles. If it were at 306/7m it would look even sleeker and even better from all angles.
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