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Old December 13th, 2008, 04:28 AM   #61
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Old December 13th, 2008, 01:11 PM   #62
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That's the ugliest front ever! hahah
I like more the Strasbourg one!
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Old December 13th, 2008, 02:50 PM   #63
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Just wait to see the new front of Paris' Tram line 2...
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Old December 13th, 2008, 03:21 PM   #64
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Does anyone got pics of new Nice tram web?
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Old December 13th, 2008, 05:14 PM   #65
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Just wait to see the new front of Paris' Tram line 2...
Can there be anything worse than the Lyon's duck-tram? I hope no! Come on, the Paris's trams look quite nice... they shouldnt screw it up!
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Old December 13th, 2008, 05:43 PM   #66
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RENNES Metro

VAL System (Véhicule automatique léger) as in Lille and Toulouse

Line A :
opened in 2002
9.4km
15 stations
~120,000 passengers per day. 40millions passengers in 2007.





Henri Fréville station


view from La Poterie south east station





Projects approuved (should be completed in 2018)

extension of the line A : 3.4 km to the south east in the city of Chantepie

A new line B : ~13km from north-east to south west ; 15 stations

New line and extension are in yellow on this map
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Old December 13th, 2008, 06:26 PM   #67
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Can there be anything worse than the Lyon's duck-tram? I hope no! Come on, the Paris's trams look quite nice... they shouldnt screw it up!
They just did. Paris's new boat-tram front just look worst (as a matter of fact I kind of like Lyon's design). But it was redisgn for safety reason, too bad. I liked it better before.

You can see some pictures here, at pages 3 and 5.

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Old December 13th, 2008, 09:21 PM   #68
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OMG!




This is a joke right?
But it's not the 1st april. Wtf?


As for Rennes: let us see more pictures!
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Old December 13th, 2008, 11:49 PM   #69
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Whether you like individual trams or not, what can't be argued is that most (if not all) tram systems in France put design at the heart of the project. Lyon's trams are so different than anything else; Grenoble was at the forefront of low-floor technology, Montpellier opted for the pleasing blue of Line 1 and then the psychedelic livery for Line 2, Marseille plays homage to ships of its past its design, attractive tram stops in Strasbourg and Montpellier, and there are sections running across parks in many cities.

Compare it to Britain where there just wasn't the money available to put a unique design mark on our fledgling systems. Sadly, any politician in Britain who proposed designing a tram to reflect one of our cities or suggested turning tram stops into works of modern sculpture would be laughed at. Our Health & Safety Executive wouldn't even allow grass between the tram tracks despite it working absolutely fine in France. Such a shame.
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Old December 13th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #70
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This is a joke right?
But it's not the 1st april. Wtf?


As for Rennes: let us see more pictures!
Can anyone tell us what happened with this design? How comes it changed at the last minute? How many trams had to be altered? How does the redesigned nose look?
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Old December 14th, 2008, 12:20 AM   #71
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This is a train of the line T2 in Paris, they change the face design to provide a better safety for pedestrian.
These train run in a nearly entierly segregated tracks (it was a former suburban railway line) but with the two new extentions (opening in the end of 2009) these will run in a less segregated environement with more pedestrians.

I could add more information but this thread is for anything in France outside Paris.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 01:13 AM   #72
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As a mater of fact it was design like this because of the Scharfenberg coupler that equips T2's trams. With the upcoming opening of more urbans section the trams couldn't run on the street withoout covering the couplers, it was a safety hazard.

Now the explication is complete.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 01:41 AM   #73
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And nothing is better than a picture to unsterstand that.

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Old December 14th, 2008, 06:01 AM   #74
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This is a joke right?
But it's not the 1st april. Wtf?


As for Rennes: let us see more pictures!
Those are really, REALLY ugly!
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Old December 14th, 2008, 10:35 AM   #75
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Ok, that's not the most beautiful front I've ever seen, but that's not that ugly.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #76
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Well, I don't know whether it is ugly or not.. but let's put it this way... In my list of nice ones, it would be... right at the bottom...
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Old December 27th, 2008, 08:31 PM   #77
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Platform can allow 4 cars trains but there isn't enouth cars to do this.
Anyway they have a solution for increasing capacity inside the train.

I been in Lyon during christmass I took it.
The new interior is much better.

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Old December 27th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #78
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Wow ! What time was it and which station was it ? It's so strange to see line D almost empty.
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Old December 27th, 2008, 08:40 PM   #79
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Valmy at 6 pm.
It was quite crowded between Bellecour and Saxe Gambetta.
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Old December 27th, 2008, 08:46 PM   #80
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Yes, that's why the SYTRAl thinks about buying new 3 cars metros for line D and 4 cars automatic ones for line B.


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Métro : le Sytral prépare l’automatisation de la ligne B

Le prolongement à Oullins est l’occasion de préparer l’avenir. Les nouvelles rames automatiques n’apparaîtront pas avant 2015

Le métro lyonnais, à l’instar de son grand frère parisien, arrive-t-il à saturation pendant certaines tranches horaires? Le phénomène se fait déjà sentir lors des pointes les plus extrêmes, et la hausse régulière de la fréquentation des transports en commun dans leur ensemble va l’accentuer.
La modernisation des lignes de l’Ouest lyonnais qui se connectent à Gorge-de-Loup avec la ligne D va amener par exemple à cette dernière de nouveaux clients.
Il est prévu que le renouveau des lignes TER de l’Ouest lyonnais double le nombre de leurs voyageurs qui alimenteront aussi le réseau TCL.
C’est un exemple frappant qui s’inscrit dans une tendance plus générale touchant l’ensemble des lignes du réseau de transport urbain.
Le Sytral doit donc désormais non seulement continuer à développer le réseau TCL, mais apporter également des réponses pour l’avenir en termes de capacité.
Dans le cadre du renouvellement des bus, les articulés ont le vent en poupe, la question de l’allongement des lignes de tram se pose aussi.
Côté métro, les priorités ciblées consistent à ajouter un quatrième wagon aux rames de la ligne A, et un troisième à celles de la ligne D.
Mais le métro A a une technologie de plus de trente ans, et cet ajout ne va pas sans générer de grands problèmes techniques.
Le Sytral vient donc de décider de résoudre plusieurs problèmes simultanément, en prévoyant à l’occasion du prolongement de la ligne B (Charpennes/Gerland) l’intégration d’un pilotage automatique sur celle-ci... pour l’avenir.
Ce dernier ne sera pas effectif lors de l’arrivée prévue du métro à Oullins fin 2013. Mais tout sera prêt lors de l’acquisition de nouvelles rames pour la ligne B envisagées à l’horizon 2015. C’est alors que cette ligne deviendra automatique. Ce choix technologique a un surcoût de l’ordre de 20 millions d’euros, par rapport à une solution d’adaptation nécessaire mais plus basique, sans automatisation.
Mais outre la souplesse et l’efficacité qu’elle va apporter pour la gestion de cette ligne, le fait de grouper la commande de wagons supplémentaires pour la ligne D avec les nouvelles rames de la B doit permettre d’obtenir des prix plus attractifs sur ce matériel. Ce choix apporte aussi la réponse à la saturation de la ligne A qui gagnera un quatrième wagon à ses rames en récupérant celles en service sur la ligne B et de même génération.
En attendant ces bouleversements, les rames de la ligne D voient leur aménagement progressivement modifié pour être plus accueillantes.
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