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Old December 27th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #81
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Yeh when I was in Lyon I saw it, my grand father read Le Progres newspaper.
The line B could become driverless for the extention to Oullins.

The line B was also quite busy between Charpennes and Saxe Gambetta especially between Part Dieu and Saxe Gambetta.
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Old December 27th, 2008, 09:14 PM   #82
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Actually, it would become driverless after the extension to Oullins (about 2 years later). Anyway, apart line C, which is too short to be very attractive, the whole métro is busy. Line D must have more than 300 000 pax a day for only 12.5 km, line A has about 260 000 for 9.3 km and line B has about 150 000 for 6.2 km.
That's the same thing for the tram network, and the SYTRAL is to buy new modules for T1 an T2.
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Old December 28th, 2008, 02:33 AM   #83
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Saint Etienne

I find the article of Wikipedia quite great, better in english than in french.

The Tramway de Saint-Étienne is a Tram system in the French city of Saint-Étienne, France, its particularity is that is has functionned non stop since its opening in 1881. The first tramway line was steam operated and was opened by the Chemins de Fer à Voie étroite de Saint-Étienne on 4 December 1881, it stretched for 5.5 km between La Terrasse and Bellevue. The CFVE took over the Compagnie des Tramways Electriques de Saint-Étienne lines and steam was last used in 1912. Lines with small patronage were replaced by trolleybuses in 1932 with all but one line closed in 1956 due the impossibility to run trolleybuses on the busiest line of network. The decision to keep the tramway in the 1950s saw the introduction of the famous PCC tramcars to replace 1932 rolling stock and the Vevey-Alsthom tramcars in 1991-1992. The system is operated by the STAS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramway...t-%C3%89tienne

Two lines
37 stations
11.6 km.










http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...a_Terrasse.jpg
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Old December 30th, 2008, 07:38 AM   #84
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I still understand what "VAL" is. Is it the same as Vancouver's SkyTrain?
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Old December 30th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #85
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I still understand what "VAL" is. Is it the same as Vancouver's SkyTrain?
You mean you don't understand?

VAL, which stands for Véhicule Automatique Leger (sorry my french is rusty... so I swear I'm missing an accent somewhere), uses rubber-tired automated vehicles unlike conventional motor vehicles (i.e. Docklands LRV) or linear propulsion vehicles (i.e. SkyTrain).

VAL and Bombardier ART (SkyTrain) share many similarities as they are more of an intermediate capacity system (in between Trams/LRT or low capacity and heavy rail or high capacity).

CDGVAL:


Rennes Metro:


Toulouse Metro:


Orlyval Metro:
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:41 AM   #86
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VAL, which stands for Véhicule Automatique Leger (sorry my french is rusty... so I swear I'm missing an accent somewhere), uses rubber-tired automated vehicles unlike conventional motor vehicles (i.e. Docklands LRV) or linear propulsion vehicles (i.e. SkyTrain).
Linear propulsion? I thought that the Skytrain was using the same rolling stock than Kuala Lumpur Putra line. And the propulsion is not linear there.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 09:43 PM   #87
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Yes, that's why the SYTRAl thinks about buying new 3 cars metros for line D and 4 cars automatic ones for line B.

Only 3 cars for the line D? That's not enough! The 2 actual cars are way not sufficient regarding to the frequentation.... and to add just one new car will not slove the congestion of line D during the peak hours! As more and more people use this line daily, they should at least think of 4 cars train!
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:07 PM   #88
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Linear propulsion? I thought that the Skytrain was using the same rolling stock than Kuala Lumpur Putra line. And the propulsion is not linear there.
From Bombardier's Website:
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ART’s revolutionary Linear Induction Motor (LIM) propulsion system enables fully automated driverless train operation. It consistently delivers in excess of 30,000 passengers per hour, per direction, around the clock, in all weather conditions.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:29 PM   #89
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These photos are very recent, are they yours ?

A map of the tram's network, eight cities are served:


More photos of Grenoble here:
http://snotag.free.fr/phototheque/#album=26
Do you have any information about the plans of an extension of tram D and/or a possible tram E?
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Old December 31st, 2008, 01:41 AM   #90
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you should try your luck here. They have all the good informations but in french. I guess that's not really an issue for you. But if I'm guessing wrong I will try to give you some explanation.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 12:36 PM   #91
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 03:00 PM   #92
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I'm not very informed about it but Marseille, like allmost every city, have some kind of suburban rail system. The thing is this system is part of something called TER (Transport Express Régional) that is a medium, and short, distance passenger rail service. You can take it to make suburban connection or intercity connection (like Marseille-Lyon or Marseille-Nice). It's really in between.

In the case of Marseille there is several lines radiating from the city. For exemple the line between Marseille and Aix-en-Provence (31 minutes) is concidered as TER but is more suburban than anything else.

But was are far from Metro and light rail service.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 08:20 PM   #93
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Does Marseille have a suburban rail system? My video of the TGV to Paris shows the train passing three stations before the start of the LGV Méditerranée, one being La Canet I think. I forget the names of the other two. All three stations looked very rundown though, as if they were abandoned - mostly just bare platforms, no seats or shelter and few buildings.
Those stations are not abandoned but Marseille has unfortunately some of the poorest and roughest housing estate areas you can find in France. Some of them are located next to the railway. And of course vandalism is a big issue there. During the upgrading of the Aix-Marseille suburban line material and tools were stolen everyday. In the newly opened stations between Aix and Marseille the ticketing machines don't take coins, only cards, to avoid vandalism.
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Old April 20th, 2009, 10:42 PM   #94
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Lyon has 4 tram lines today, and about 47 km of infrastructure.
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Old April 21st, 2009, 12:14 PM   #95
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Here's the actual metro/tram/cristalis map of Lyon with the new T4 line:



There's a planned extension of T4 to Gare Part-Dieu Villette, where's actually situated one of T3's terminuses.
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Old April 24th, 2009, 12:39 AM   #96
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Makes you realise that Lyon has a more extensive rail based transit system that one would be first led to believe. It looks to be a well connected network too with lots of interchanges between lines.
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Old April 24th, 2009, 10:18 AM   #97
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And the network is still quickly expanding (before 2014)
the B metro line will be 1.7 km longer in 2013 (in the south, crossing the Rhône river)
the T4 tram line will be extended to IUT Feyssine via Part-Dieu
T1 will be extended to metro B Debourg
a T2 bis is going to be constructed between Les Alizées and Eurexpo
a short T3 bis (1km) to go to the new 60 000 seats stadium
an express tram line using T3 rail continuing to the airport is going to be in service next year.

http://www.sytral.fr/152.0.html

The "RER" is also improving :
a new station in Jean Macé (métro B and T2) will be in service in december
double tracking west lines and new tram-train cars.

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Old April 24th, 2009, 09:57 PM   #98
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The "RER" is also improving :
a new station in Jean Macé (métro B and T2) will be in service in december
double tracking west lines and new tram-train cars.
Never heard of this! I only know that they are improving the train service for the western suburbs from Gare de Lyon-Saint-Paul.
So what are they going to do exactly on Jean Macé? Build a RER station over the train viaduct leading to Lyon - Perrache?
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The station is almost finished, actually. It's on the viaduc just behind the tram station.

http://www.lahaltejeanmace.com/content.cfm?id=126
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Just like I thought... Thanks! Last time I went to Jean Macé was 2 months ago, but anyway I don't think I could see the construction works from the tram station...

P.S: Now I see there were serious works in 2007!!!
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