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Old August 2nd, 2004, 01:55 PM   #121
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btw, anyone has that stat info from europa.eu.int about the motorways per capita in the EU? I can't find it now
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 01:56 PM   #122
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Soviet roads > Soviets' Slave Roads.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 01:56 PM   #123
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Its alright, mysterious people called Soviets came down from the sky and built our roads, just like mysterious people called Martians built Polish roads.

From that we can come to one conclusion: Road quality of mysterious people Soviets is much better than road quality of mysterious people called Martians.
Soviets are not that mysterious, you can easily read about expressways in the Lithuanian Soviet Republic. Freely available on the web.

Polish highways are not built by Marsians, they are built by Dromex, NCC, Skanska, Hydrobudowa etc. All companies have web presence, go check it.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 01:58 PM   #124
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Poland actually didnt build their roads. They only improved roads built by Polish Socialistic Republic with a thin layer of asphalt.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 01:59 PM   #125
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There are those improved and those built from scratch in the past 5 years.

There are more under construction right now. FROM SCRATCH. Not some soviet built 30 years ago like in Lithuania.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 01:59 PM   #126
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they are built by Dromex, NCC, Skanska, Hydrobudowa[/img]
Oh so those are Swedish roads then.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:02 PM   #127
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There are those improved and those built from scratch in the past 5 years.

There are more under construction right now. FROM SCRATCH. Not some soviet built 30 years ago like in Lithuania.
Ok but our roads are still better than yours.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:03 PM   #128
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Swedish brand new roads are better than Russian 30 year old roads.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:06 PM   #129
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@Jacek

highway system is when you may get to major part of the country using a highway, Lithuania is quite small so it's enough to have 450km of highways to service the whole territory although to complete the whole system and make it 100% effective about 200km more is needed.

As for the motorway status it's not me who decided so, the status is given by appropriate institutions in Brussels which care about those issues, there are special inspections and comissions. So you better not talk things while you can't base your talks with anything but "those roads are built by Soviets". You may go find that motorway per capita sheet, it's published last year, you also may check some road maps. And once again Jacek, if you have something to say, you better have arguments, not obly talk demagogy.

Btw, some roads in Poland are built by Lithuanian companies, so are they supposed to be Lithuanian?
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:08 PM   #130
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Russian? Russians had nothign to do with our roads. It was Soviets that built them!



Oh great soviet worker, thank you for the Vilnius-Kaunas-Klaipeda road that you built! Go build some more roads, oh great Soviet worker. I would help you but i really cant be arsed id rather watch some TV or get some beer or something.

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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:12 PM   #131
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On topic please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! otherwise post your highways on european highways
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:15 PM   #132
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so according to this map, there should be approximately 550km of motorways in Poland
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:16 PM   #133
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Ok here are my arguments:

"1944-1990, Soviet occupation of Lithuania

Because of Lithuania’s strategic location, Moscow builds excellent highways to facilitate troop movement and to double as runways for planes. Important Soviet scientific R&D is done in Lithuania, building up Lithuania’s scientific expertise and infrastructure. Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia (the Baltic countries) become known in the Soviet Union as "the West."



From History of Lithuania

http://www.eng.yale.edu/read3ct/LAC-Lith.htm
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:19 PM   #134
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OMG, this is the first time I get a chance to observe Poles arguing with Lithuanians
What an opportunity!
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:20 PM   #135
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Lithuanian Soviet Republic,Along with Latvian and Estonian ones were the richest in the USSR. Soviets were taking our money and wasting them for useless crap for 50 years. The fact that they built a couple of roads only means that about 1/1000000000000000000000000 of what we lost to them came back to us, so the fact that Moscow decided to build a road for us for OUR money wont really make me feel guilty about anything. Its our roads, **** off.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:21 PM   #136
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@Jacek

this is your only argument? Do you think EU commissions are too dumb to provide the status of EU standard motorway to such roads? And yes if you checked them back in 1990 they would have been like that but now it's 2004. And once again you are talking things taken from the blue while you ignore arguments and undeniable facts.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:22 PM   #137
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Guys, please do not hijacking this thread... Here is talk about Russia's highways and freeways...
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:24 PM   #138
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Sorry, coth.
Youre right. This is my last OT post.

Jacek is a dumbass anyway.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:25 PM   #139
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Well let's give credit to Russia for building expressways in Lithuania. It is important to acknowledge that fact since Lithuania was part of the Soviet Union for 50 years.
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 02:27 PM   #140
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info about some countries' roads taken from Eurostat, year 2003

total length of motorways and km per 1000 sq. km

Slovenia - 399km - 19.7
Lithuania - 417km - 6.4
Czechia - 499km - 6.3
Slovakia - 295km - 6.0
Hungary - 448km - 4.8
Bulgaria - 324km - 2.9
Estonia - 87km - 1.9
Poland - 268km - 0.9
Romania - 113km - 0.5
Latvia - 0km - 0

Total/Average - 2850 - 2.7
EU15 Total/average - 49233km - 15.8

and yes Jacek, motorways is one of very few good things that Soviet occupation did to us, I doubt Lithuania could afford this now. But now i'm glad i can drive at 130km/h without caring about anything else
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